How many miles did you get on your Pirellis?
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3000 miles!
3 track events and 1 autocross.
Like Cloud9 said, 3 hard track events is about all you'll get out of most tires.
When you push the Beast hard, The beast eats tires!
3 track events and 1 autocross.
Like Cloud9 said, 3 hard track events is about all you'll get out of most tires.
When you push the Beast hard, The beast eats tires!
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The Corsas are the VERY worst tires I've ever had on a car in a long, long, time. Like Cloud 9 maybe 2-3 track days MAX. The first day will be pure bliss, and the tires work very well on the car. After that, they will literally start delaminating and coming apart. I will post some pictures soon. Never, EVER would recommend these tires. Borderline un-safe.... kinda surprised that Ford would go with this "junk" of a tire. (Can you tell I don't like them?)
Again, first day out you will love them. Be very, very careful after that. My experience is across 3 different LS's with 3 different skill set drivers. All the tires (front and back) literally started falling apart the same way. Very dangerous. Very un-safe. Pictures soon.
Again, first day out you will love them. Be very, very careful after that. My experience is across 3 different LS's with 3 different skill set drivers. All the tires (front and back) literally started falling apart the same way. Very dangerous. Very un-safe. Pictures soon.
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I have over 5,000 miles on my P-Zero's. One track day, one autocross and about 30 trips (with a lot of rear wheel spin at the start) down the quarter mile. Still have another 5,000 miles left at this rate.
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3 half track days, one drag strip and 15,000 KMs and they are done. Outer edges were gone early.
As a road tire I'd rate them as some of the best I've had. Track tire? Use something else... What though, I'm unsure of myself.
As a road tire I'd rate them as some of the best I've had. Track tire? Use something else... What though, I'm unsure of myself.
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Just remember the LS runs different tires (Pirelli Corsa) but same size as the regular Boss and has a treadwear rating of "60" and is considered an "R" compound tire, where the P-Zero's treadwear rating is "220". And I would have to agree, the P-Zero makes one heck of road tire.
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I've got 6500 miles or so on mine since June 13th. The rears are looking pretty worn at this point. I beat on them. It's supposed to rain next week so I'm making room in the garage for the Boss next to the Falcon.
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The Pirelli P-Zeros front tires on my Boss are dead after 1500 miles. Failed road force test last night at the dealership. They have been on the street only and I've never seen tires fail this way before.
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A couple of things I should clarify...
My BAD review was of the Corsas which are unique to the LS. Also, my disappointment was with them as track tires. I can't really blame a high performance tire to trade it's tread life for high performance. But, that's NOT what happened with the Corsa's. The tread and tire starts to come apart!!! (aka Firestone/Ford Explorer come apart.) They are really, really junk as track tires (after giving ~1-2 fun track sessions).
My BAD review was of the Corsas which are unique to the LS. Also, my disappointment was with them as track tires. I can't really blame a high performance tire to trade it's tread life for high performance. But, that's NOT what happened with the Corsa's. The tread and tire starts to come apart!!! (aka Firestone/Ford Explorer come apart.) They are really, really junk as track tires (after giving ~1-2 fun track sessions).
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A couple of things I should clarify...
My BAD review was of the Corsas which are unique to the LS. Also, my disappointment was with them as track tires. I can't really blame a high performance tire to trade it's tread life for high performance. But, that's NOT what happened with the Corsa's. The tread and tire starts to come apart!!! (aka Firestone/Ford Explorer come apart.) They are really, really junk as track tires (after giving ~1-2 fun track sessions).
My BAD review was of the Corsas which are unique to the LS. Also, my disappointment was with them as track tires. I can't really blame a high performance tire to trade it's tread life for high performance. But, that's NOT what happened with the Corsa's. The tread and tire starts to come apart!!! (aka Firestone/Ford Explorer come apart.) They are really, really junk as track tires (after giving ~1-2 fun track sessions).
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Had my first track session last Sunday and can see a definite change in the Pirellis. Not so much wear as I am a novice, but they look rough now. Total of 3500 miles, I dont see them going more than one or two more track sessions.
Any suggestions for replacements? Anyone tried the Hankook Ventus V12 on the track?
Any suggestions for replacements? Anyone tried the Hankook Ventus V12 on the track?
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If your LS starts feeling loose, get off and check the center tread very carefully. Better yet, get different tires now!
In summation, the fronts failing are scary, but not necessarily catastrophic, the backs are downright dangerous. Please be careful!
Hankooks work well but do not have near the grip more track oriented tires do. You will feel fine but track times will be slower. Very predictable and will look like no track time after. In comparo, Pirellis look like melted wax after a few laps.
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Anyone tried the Hankook Ventus V12 on the track?
In our area, their are a lot of BMW (mostly M3) enthusiasts (aka "track addicts") with a lot of track experience. These guys as a group are swearing by the Yokohama AD08. As the BMW is a heavy car like the Boss, I am pretty convinced based on their experiences and recommendations to give the AD08's a try. Like most other tires, it is hard to find a 27" (OEM) diameter size, in either an 18" or 19" wheel. As such, I will use a 26" diameter in a 295 in the rear and a 255 at the front.
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I had a couple opprotunities to drive the Corsas on track and didn't like the way the fronts felt. They felt just like Kendall and Apollo described. I've run several sets of the Nitto 555RIIs and one set (just mounted my 2nd) of R6s and they perform incredibly. I also have some friends running the NT01s on their 5.0s and they've been excellent as well. All of these tires I listed above are approximately half the cost of the Corsas
If I owned an LS, personally I would run the Corsas on the street and buy track wheels/tires for the track. You can buy a set of 302S wheels (identical to the OEM wheels with a machined face instead of red) for $950 shipped.
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I've got about 4500 miles on my Boss with the stock tires.
Three track days at MPH.
About 1/2 the tread left, but the middle rib up front is pretty chewed up. Back ones don't look too bad yet.
I had planned to track them a little more next spring to wear them out, but maybe I need to do some tire shopping over the winter.
Three track days at MPH.
About 1/2 the tread left, but the middle rib up front is pretty chewed up. Back ones don't look too bad yet.
I had planned to track them a little more next spring to wear them out, but maybe I need to do some tire shopping over the winter.