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Could the Mach 1 be coming????

Old Sep 16, 2010 | 09:23 PM
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Could the Mach 1 be coming????

http://www.ridelust.com/2011-boss-30...g-coming-soon/
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 01:29 PM
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Doubtful
If they are making the car (BOSS) for the next couple of years, that would bring us into the next gen.

I wouldn't say there won't ever be a Mach1 again, just that we probably won't see one anytime soon.
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 05:10 PM
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I agree that it would be very unlikely for Ford to put out 2 special editions like the Boss and the Mach 1.
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 05:22 PM
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A Mach I release would be big news and like the other posters, I don't see it happening until after the 50th anniversary car is out not at the tail-end of the current generation.
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 11:14 PM
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I still think there's a good chance we will see an N/A version of the 5.4 in something before it goes, which I would assume would coincide with the next gen model.

A Mach 1 would make a lot of sense. Just basically make it a street version of the Cobra Jet. I think it would be amazing, and would offer something completely different from the Boss or GT500.

A few classic styling cues, Cobra Jet motor, more drag oriented suspension. Why not?
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Old Sep 18, 2010 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Clino
I still think there's a good chance we will see an N/A version of the 5.4 in something before it goes, which I would assume would coincide with the next gen model.

A Mach 1 would make a lot of sense. Just basically make it a street version of the Cobra Jet. I think it would be amazing, and would offer something completely different from the Boss or GT500.

A few classic styling cues, Cobra Jet motor, more drag oriented suspension. Why not?
I think we all agree with you. I think it would be a great idea as well. It would basically be the competition for the Camaro SS.
The Challenger RT (is there a Camaro RS?) is the rival for the GT. The Z28 is the rival for the GT500. So Ford needs a regular production model, not a limited edition, to beat the crap outta the SS (yes I know the GT already does that but this would make the smack down even more complete!).

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Old Sep 18, 2010 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Clino
I still think there's a good chance we will see an N/A version of the 5.4 in something before it goes.
I doubt it.
The strength of the engine now is in its SC applications, not its NA abilities.

The 5L is newer and more technologically advanced (smaller/lighter/more powerful)
I can't see Ford spending the money to make the 5.4 (which would be heavier) to compete with what the 5L platform can do, for a short run of cars. Just doesn't make any sense.
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Old Sep 18, 2010 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Clino
I still think there's a good chance we will see an N/A version of the 5.4 in something before it goes, which I would assume would coincide with the next gen model.

A Mach 1 would make a lot of sense. Just basically make it a street version of the Cobra Jet. I think it would be amazing, and would offer something completely different from the Boss or GT500.

A few classic styling cues, Cobra Jet motor, more drag oriented suspension. Why not?
Not gonna happen. A N/A 5.4 just cannot make the power like the newer engines while meeting fuel economy standards. You can make all the arguments you want about the engine, but it's going away.
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Old Sep 18, 2010 | 10:12 AM
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Do you guys realise the new 5.0 can be stroked to 5.4 litres?
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Old Sep 18, 2010 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
I doubt it.
The strength of the engine now is in its SC applications, not its NA abilities.

The 5L is newer and more technologically advanced (smaller/lighter/more powerful)
I can't see Ford spending the money to make the 5.4 (which would be heavier) to compete with what the 5L platform can do, for a short run of cars. Just doesn't make any sense.
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Old Sep 19, 2010 | 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Falc'man
Do you guys realise the new 5.0 can be stroked to 5.4 litres?
You're getting as bad as TopNotch for teasing




I guess Ford may want to prevent sales from slipping before the debut of the 2014 all-new-Mustang, so perhaps there's a slim chance we may see another SE before then. Perhaps it'd run the Coyote in a spec the standard GT will run in '14....say 425bhp. However, unless the new car continues to use the current platform (possible, but unlikely?) I can't see any last minute SE using any '14 suspension components.

We'll have a '13 MY '70 inspired Boss, so I'm struggling to believe there'll be time for anything else.

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Old Sep 19, 2010 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
I doubt it.
The strength of the engine now is in its SC applications, not its NA abilities.

The 5L is newer and more technologically advanced (smaller/lighter/more powerful)
I can't see Ford spending the money to make the 5.4 (which would be heavier) to compete with what the 5L platform can do, for a short run of cars. Just doesn't make any sense.
Fair enough, but what about the 6.2? That would REALLY be in line with the old school Mach (drag/lux) vs the track oriented Boss. Ford are you listening???
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Old Sep 19, 2010 | 02:06 PM
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they need to start going into the new school and leave the old school little by little. The new school being v6/v8 ecoboost motors. No one want to pay for the old school if you really think of it. The crappy ac the poor mpg and the lack of quality.
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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Flagstang
they need to start going into the new school and leave the old school little by little. The new school being v6/v8 ecoboost motors. No one want to pay for the old school if you really think of it. The crappy ac the poor mpg and the lack of quality.
I think you misunderstood my reference to "Old School." The 6.2 is a relatively new engine (newer than the 4.6 or 5.4). I was referring to the Old School mentality of the Mach having most of the Boss's styling cues but packaged differently. In the late '60s the Machs had a lot of luxury items (radio, A/C, automatic tranny, etc) that you wouldn't want on a track car (i.e. Boss). But it still offered all the style of a race car that was better suited for the streets and drag strip. A new Mach could offer luxury items like an upgraded stereo, glassback, etc. that a lot of us have been asking for on the Boss, while maintaining the race oriented Boss for the purists. After all I can't see myself hitting 7500rpm in DC traffic, but I sure would enjoy a torquey alternative with all the styling cues!
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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 05:56 PM
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I'm definitely on board for a STREET BEAST. I like a lot about the Boss but I wonder if much of the track orientated features might be lost on me?
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Twin Turbo
I guess Ford may want to prevent sales from slipping before the debut of the 2014 all-new-Mustang,
Does no one pay attention anymore?
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 12:34 PM
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Personally I see the all new 2014 mustang happening like the 2009 did.
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
Does no one pay attention anymore?
Ah, but was I referring to model year or calendar year?

Besides, I've lost track now
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Twin Turbo
Ah, but was I referring to model year or calendar year?

Besides, I've lost track now
before the debut of the 2014 all-new-Mustang
When was the last time you refered to the 2011 as a 2010....
shmuck

"I have a 2010 version 2011 not the 2011/2011..."
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
When was the last time you refered to the 2011 as a 2010....
I consider myself well and truly


Now, tell me, why should I "look the **** out" in 2013?
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