I dont see a Mach 1 or Bullit being built in the near future. They have been reincarnated before. Ford likes to do special editions as proven many times. I agree it is time for a street version of the Cobrajet . Super Cobrajet = WOW.

 

I predict a 525-550 5.8na motor in the 2014 Mustang Boss "R"
.....one last bada$$ before the new 2015 Mustang....

and it the rumors of 2013 Gt500 the last Shelby, what else is Ford to do?

 

This is the problem guys. The Boss beat the more expensive and more powerful Shelby on the road course. That wasn't supposed to happen and won't happen again. The Boss will remain where it is or pretty close to it. The Shelby will be superior to the Boss as it is intended to be. Top dog mustang will have a snake on it. Mach1 drag pack would be nice to see. Bullitt edition would also be a nice addition performing somewheres between the GT and Boss.

 

I hope so, I always thought it was kinda weird that Ford was putting the Shelby name on a Mustang in-house. They need to go back to just the Cobra for the top of the line.

A Mach 1 in this body style would be really cool, but I'd bet a Boss 351 would be more likely, and I'm not sure I'm willing to hold my breath for that just yet.

 

^^ I agree. Ford needs to bring back the Cobra and branch away from Shelby.

 

Just let Shelby do his own cars like saleen.
Let SVT be its own entity.

 

This is what they shouldve been doing all along. Then we could have the roush, saleen, shelby rivalry goin on. Now THAT would have yielded some sick rides

 

Ditto. Although I'll be buying from a US dealer. No chance of this happening though, is there!?!

 

I don't think you'll see that- it's too small of a gap between a GT and a Boss.

 

I respectfully disagree.

In the late 60's the GT500 was a pig and so it is today, only a more refined pig. Parnelli Jones wasn't tearing up road courses in a GT500 then and there is a reason why Multimatic further enhances the Boss dynasty today.

The GT500 is nothing more than a boulevard bruising street pimp that shines most when properly setup for a drag strip. The fact that it costs more has nothing to do with it also somehow being expected to dominate on a track that actually has turns in it (beyond the return road).

It will happen again in the coming year.

If gobs of horsepower ensure superiority then the GT500 has it in droves. The ability to hit 200+mph is great if shipping your car to Nardo is in your future. And while the '13 GT500 may do well for a near two ton vehicle on a road course - a Boss it will never be. The development work and resulting finished product that is/was and will be Ford's latest Boss was completed with one goal in mind - to own any section of curvy road or track that lay before it whether there is a GT500 on it or not.

 

[QUOTE=Tob*;6201903]I respectfully disagree.

In the late 60's the GT500 was a pig and so it is today, only a more refined pig. Parnelli Jones wasn't tearing up road courses in a GT500 then and there is a reason why Multimatic further enhances the Boss dynasty today.

The GT500 is nothing more than a boulevard bruising street pimp that shines most when properly setup for a drag strip. The fact that it costs more has nothing to do with it also somehow being expected to dominate on a track that actually has turns in it (beyond the return road).

It will happen again in the coming year.

If gobs of horsepower ensure superiority then the GT500 has it in droves. The ability to hit 200+mph is great if shipping your car to Nardo is in your future. And while the '13 GT500 may do well for a near two ton vehicle on a road course - a Boss it will never be. The development work and resulting finished product that is/was and will be Ford's latest Boss was completed with one goal in mind - to own any section of curvy road or track that lay before it whether there is a GT500 on it or not.[/QUOTE]

very well put...

 

I would have to agree with this. After some limited tracking, I want better brakes, tires, less weight, as well as some coilovers. I have very little desire for a 200 hp blower so I can drag race. 200 MPH would be friggin awesome though.

 

Well maybe after a few laps the Boss will pull ahead since it is Ford's track car.

However going forward in the one lap world of the magazine shootout, the GT500 will most certainly own the Boss (since thats the GT500's mission - look good for the magazine). Hameedi has said as much since the 2012 Boss was uncomfortably close to the GT500 in instrumented performance.

Even prior to the launch of the 2012 Boss, Ford made an effort to keep the GT500 at the top by fitting the car with the 2nd gen Goodyear Supercar tires which stick better than the Pirellis fitted to the regular Boss.

 

I think you are taking Hameedi's statements and intimations beyond his intent. Don't get me wrong - the electronically adjustable dampers, umpteenth bar and spring combination will do a great job (of giving a GT500 Top Dog Track Pack or PP owner a choice of a full on or lazy soft ride). But even a leaner, tauter, Rosie O'Donnell is still a plumper in disguise. A trunk full of helium couldn't somehow enable the car to defy the laws of physics. Neither will SVT's latest attempt.

The 2013 model won't be bringing an SLA or an IRS. It is simply an ever improving continuation of the near 8 year old S197 chassis. A heavier version of the Boss if you will, but heavier in all the wrong places.

I'm pretty confident that any year GT500 may have the ability to power up and beat everything between the corners, but eventually they have to give the Boss that has been sitting on their bumper for far too long, the point by.

On edit...you are absolutely dead on regarding the tires on each. The Boss deserves more in the tire department. The GT500 without them (G:2) is like adding yet another couple hundred pounds.

 

I agree with the comment made by whammer about the future of the Bullitt Mustang and how it would not fill the gap between the GT and Boss. The only way I would envision a future Bullitt Mustang would be for Ford to offer a stripped down version of the GT and call it a Bullitt and sell it for less than a GT. That would be a more true representitive of what one would expect of a Bullitt. No rear spoiler, chrome, or shifter console.

 

That would be an awesome DD.

 

There really already is one. The 3.73/Brembo with cloth seats and minimal options fits this. I believe one could have been had this year for under 30K (don't quote me). I looked pretty hard at this but went with the Boss for the engine and suspension tune. A few mods and you've got a pretty high performance DD you can take to the track.

 

All Ford has to do then is make Highland Green available, take off the GT emblem and call it a Bullitt. Presto, all the Bullitt fans will be happy.

 

How much horespower would be necessary for a 351 Boss ? I am thinking 460 to 480 should be good enough.

 

505 BHP would be just about right Why? Because thats what GM's LS7 puts out and its really fun when you poke them about a smaller engine meeting or exceeding thier larger engine's output.