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Old 2/6/12, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 5 DOT 0
That's unfortunate. The inconsistent shifting issues are certainly a low point for the Boss.

How's the OLOA prep coming along?

OLOA prep is good. Got some 19x9 19x10 Forgestars shod with Michelin PSS 265/35 295/30 for One Lap. Going to CMP in 2 weeks for testing and to give my co driver, Jon Krolewicz, some seat time. Then a couple of Autox, Sebring day, Roebling Road and maybe a trip to Hallett. Really looking forward to 2012 after missing the last 2 years.

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Ive never had a grinding gear or the nibble from first to second. If I just drove mine on the street it would be rated 5 out of 5 stars, only on the drag strip I hit a brick wall shifting from 3 rd to 4 th.
Besides that its perfect, I went from a Mach1 to the Boss and I dont regret it for a second.

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Originally Posted by OLOABoss
OLOA prep is good. Got some 19x9 19x10 Forgestars shod with Michelin PSS 265/35 295/30 for One Lap. Going to CMP in 2 weeks for testing and to give my co driver, Jon Krolewicz, some seat time. Then a couple of Autox, Sebring day, Roebling Road and maybe a trip to Hallett. Really looking forward to 2012 after missing the last 2 years.

Peter
I have run with Jon and SeatTime a few times at Roebling. A good guy. Tell him Adam with the GT-R and silver Boss said hi.
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Originally Posted by OLOABoss
OLOA prep is good. Got some 19x9 19x10 Forgestars shod with Michelin PSS 265/35 295/30 for One Lap. Going to CMP in 2 weeks for testing and to give my co driver, Jon Krolewicz, some seat time. Then a couple of Autox, Sebring day, Roebling Road and maybe a trip to Hallett. Really looking forward to 2012 after missing the last 2 years.

Peter
Good luck and let us know how those tires work out.
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Originally Posted by adam81
I have run with Jon and SeatTime a few times at Roebling. A good guy. Tell him Adam with the GT-R and silver Boss said hi.
Yeah he mentioned he knew somebody with a GT-r who got a Boss. I was wondering if it was you.

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Originally Posted by OLOABoss
Got some 19x9 19x10 Forgestars shod with Michelin PSS 265/35 295/30 for One Lap.

Peter

Um, Pics???????
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Originally Posted by 06GT
Um, Pics???????

Gotta get them on the car this week then pics.

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Hi guys,

If anyone is having any concerns with their vehicle, please bring it in to your Ford dealer for diagnosis and then, PM me with your VIN, dealer, mileage, and contact info so I can escalate this.

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I would have paid more, please Ford put an American to work.. Make the Boss Transmissions... Just sayin'!
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Originally Posted by TMSBOSS
I agree....You cannot speak for everybody.

And yes I get it. That's why I looked to the web sites for opinions from people installing after market shifters. Then I looked at the different shifter on the market. Found only one who address the complete shifter issue, not just the cover and lever. Yea, several companies offer a rear mount bushing to replace the weak Ford mount. Only one company offers a double bushing on separate shafts. That's when I got it. Paid cash for it as a matter of fact.

And no, there are not a whole lot of magazines influencing me in Afghanistan. Get it.

I too have driven many different cars, trucks, semis, farm and industrial equipment. Standard shifters, air shifters, solid linkages, cable arrangements as well as automatics. My first after market shifter was the competition plus in 1978. A very impressive shifter. The standard I have compared other shifters to. The Ford shifter on the MT-82 does Not compare to the old reliable Comp Plus.

The shifter in the My Boss is NOT the worst stock shifter I have used. It just leaves a lot to be desired. The Muncie in my 1968 big block vette was a pure mystery shifter. Would it go into third or third and reverse?? Yes, very hard on the muncie. The Hurst shifter fixed that issue. That's why I looked into the hurst first. Not too impressive. No reverse lockout, a small light to install somewhere to warn you if you hit reverse. Poor reviese. Not reviews in magazines who of course sell parts. Reviews on line from many sources.

Other drivers, same results with the Boss.

So glad you are more capable then my self, the service manager from ford with 37 years experience, and other drivers who drove my Boss all with the same results.


Yea, I get it. I am not worthy.
I'm sorry if you took that personally, it wasn't meant to be directed at any of you guys........I have luck with my transmission and shifter (Thank God)..........My lost point was I think the magazine guys are somewhat bought off buy their sponsors who buy ads in their mafazine. So again, I'm sorry you took it personally, it wasn't supposed to be a knock on you guys or your driving ability.
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Originally Posted by BLAZN BOSS
I'm sorry if you took that personally, it wasn't meant to be directed at any of you guys........I have luck with my transmission and shifter (Thank God)..........My lost point was I think the magazine guys are somewhat bought off buy their sponsors who buy ads in their mafazine. So again, I'm sorry you took it personally, it wasn't supposed to be a knock on you guys or your driving ability.
Thanks for the reply


From my post you can see that I have driven ALOT of different vehicles. Boss is one of the best I have driven. Yep, I took it personal.

Changine the fluid and addint the MGW shifter has made a world of difference. Not one issue beyond a slight stiffness when cold. Had trh oilChanged in when the track key was installed. Shifter went in the day after I returned from AFG. Have not driven with only the oil change so I can't say which change made the most difference. I do know that several "Spirited" runs through 1st 2nd andinto third and I could not reproduce the issues I had with the stock shifter and original trans lube.

I did not plan on many mods. In fact, I may be done with changes now the shifting issues are gone. Well, maybe a gauge upgrade....

Appoligy Accepted. Thanks
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Originally Posted by TMSBOSS
TChangine the fluid and addint the MGW shifter has made a world of difference.
What fluid did you go with?
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Originally Posted by zwede
What fluid did you go with?
Try Redline MTL.
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Originally Posted by zwede
What fluid did you go with?

I had the TSB done by Ford.
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Originally Posted by TMSBOSS
I had the TSB done by Ford.
Ah, ok. Mine is late enough that it already had that fluid.
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does anyone know if the boss302r and 302s have the same tranny and if they would encounter the same problems?
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Originally Posted by heylilcobra
does anyone know if the boss302r and 302s have the same tranny and if they would encounter the same problems?
They are not the same.

http://www.fordracingparts.com/compe...osscompare.asp
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wow i wonder why they did not use the gt500 tranny.
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Originally Posted by zwede

Ah, ok. Mine is late enough that it already had that fluid.
How late would it have to be? When did this service bulletin go out?
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The dates below are transmission production dates. as long as the production date of your car is 1-2 weeks after that it should have the update.


04/26/2010: Revised Clutch Pedal Return Spring
For clutch stay-out at high RPMs

09/07/2010: Changed 5th/6th gear surface finish
Addresses grinding during 5th gear shifts

10/19/2010: Revised fastener/thread locker
Addresses clutch fastener back out

01/07/2011: Revised Clutch Spring Finger Height
For clutch stay-out at high RPMs

02/25/2011: Fourth gear weld incomplete during production
Process verification to ensure complete gear welding

07/01/2011: Vehicle message center
Extended skip-shift illumination time so drivers aware of engagement

07/25/2011: Added phosphate coating to gears
Reduces gear noise

07/25/2011: Lower viscosity lubricant
To reduce shift effort in all temps

08/31/2011: Changed clearance between 2nd gear friction ring & cone
Resolve ring to gear face contact and gear clash


And some more info on the 8/31 change:

Second gear friction ring 08/31/2011

Changed clearance
specification between
friction ring and cone.

Resolve potential ring
to gear face contact.
Increased effort/gear
clash.

Old PN
BR33-7M162-KA
BR33-7M162-LA

New PN
BR33-7M164-KB
BR33-7M164-LB

Rework 08/31/2011 8/31/2011 Y


From here:

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...a-details.html


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