This is what I was thinking. If I'm going to track it, and it was designed and engineered to be tracked, why would it be a bad thing?




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As always, the puzzle with the missing piece.

It's like marrying a virgin and one that is not. One can never be sure of the mileage, where she has been, or what she has done...

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... do I really believe her story she has only been with 'just one guy' or an entire platoon? DUH!

 

True, but the virgin has no clue of what to do and requires a break-in period vs. the experienced one who gives you exactly what you want.

I don't want 72 virgins, send me to hell where all the naughty girls are!

 

BOSS 302! I currently drive an 11MY 5.0 as a daily driver and love it, but my heart leaps for the Boss302 that is quickly heading to my garage. The Boss is unique and always will be. It is an emotional decision. If you consider any 5.0 it would have to have the Brembo package to be even in the running for consideration vs. a Boss 302.

 

i don't want to be that guy walking with my grandkids 20 years from now thinking about how i could have had a boss when i run across one at a car show[/quote]

This reminds me of the Harley ad where the Grandpa is sitting on the porch *** the Harley rides by. He says something like "I always wanted a Harley." The grandkids ask "What happened?" Grandpa replies "I bought the aluminum siding." The kids leave and go looking for Grandma and her cookies.

If the Boss doesn't REALLY trip your trigger, I agree with the logic of "Wait until something does and buy that instead."

 

yeah if you are wondering which to get now that i have thought about it, maybe it's not for you OP. i knew i woudl lose the money i have invested in mods on my 10 but as soon as i saw the CO boss 302 I knew i had to hav eit. not a smart decision for sure sicne i hav eonly had my car a year, but i didn't care. lol having a hard time deciding is a sign that you may be making a hard decision.

 

I like your logic......

 

It doesn't sound like a money issue with having a few other cars to drive. Maybe sell one of the other cars if it is. What are the other cars you have?

 

I am waiting on a perfect deal and will take either a GT Premium/Brembo/3.73 or GT500/Premium/SVT-no-strip or Boss 302 White with Recaro.

For any person tracking only occasionally all cars will have essentially the same track time (within a second or two tops), and the same fun quotient. Brakes are the same on all cars. *usable* (traction limited) horsepower on a road course is about the same.

I'd even venture to say that the GT with R-compounds (with an experience track-day driver) will be faster than the Boss 302 (not LS) on the factory tires. For novices, all three will be basically the same.

I'm all for waiting for the inevitable discounts. The OP already has a unch of sports cars - should not be paying a premium for a Boss.

The person that said he is afraid of buying a near-new car that has been tracked - I am EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE. Show me an owner who tracks a late model car, and I *KNOW* he takes excellent care of his/her car. We are not talking beat up track cars here. Late model (expensive/under warranty) cars that go to the track are pampered. These are the cars with more frequent fluid changes, always perfectly aligned, properly broken in, always with properly inflated tires, good brake pads, and drivers that avoid pot holes, pay attention, etc.

Anyone with a GT500/SVT or Boss or GT PRemium that you have tracked that wants to sell - let me know. Black/Grey/White - no stripe colors preferred.

Question to the Forum. How hard is it to remove the Boss 302 black stripes from a white car? I know it is sacrilegious to most here, but, seriously, I have no intention of driving a car with boy-racer stripes - with no offense meant to anyone who likes them.

 

It's pretty easy. The costly part is if you want to paint the roof since it's not a decal.

 

Thank you. So no easy way to have a Boss 302 in a single solid color? NO stripe delete as in the GT500/SVTPP option?

I love what Ford is doing with the Mustang (all models from V6 to GT to Boss to GT500), to the point where I'm excited about owning a Ford car (had many trucks) again, since my 1990 Thunderbird SC.

Ford should consider that there are many buyers that like an understated more go, less show appearance. Why not offer at least some Boss 302 in solid colors? I'm attending 8-10 track days this year, and would love to be in a Boss. But I don't want all the stripes. And painting one after delivery sounds like a waste and a disrespect to the car.

Ford - Please offer a solid (Black or Metallic Grey) Boss Color. Checkbook ready.

 

If you were able to view the special about the new Boss 302 on the Speed Channel, you probably heard the designers speak about the color and stripe choices being made with respect to race car heritage and looks. Colors that stand out and stripes that pay homage to the originals were in the plans. If there were to be any change, it potentially would come with the 2013 model year, although I doubt it would happen.

The Bullitt Mustang was the low key one!

In terms of painting, one could say that "stripe delete" is disrespect to the car, however, as you well know, what makes a beautiful design ultimately is in the eye of the beholder (and purchaser).

 

ebay

 

Agreed w above. My boss 302 is more capable than the blown 10 I traded right out of the box. I had 10k wrapped up in mods on that car at least.

 

Just for grins, I put up some estimates of part prices just to see how it would net out. These are only guesses, although we do know the cost on the intake and an adjustable suspension if you refer to the Ford Racing catalog.

PARTS TOTAL = $5498

Let's assume to install the intake, suspension, wheels that it takes 10 hours at $100/hr shop rate.

LABOR TOTAL = $1000

And let's assume that someone were to attempt to fabricate a quad exhaust set-up rather than pay $800 for an aftermarket exhaust. So let's use $2000 for a custom exhaust. A rough cost might be $8498 to do something that approaches, but not equals, a car like the standard Boss.

Lastly, the depreciation cost on a typical car for a 5-year period might run into 60%. Let's say the Boss holds it value at 50% after 5 years. That would mean about $20,000 of depreciation, give or take. Might be different than the LS, of course.

My armchair quarterback guess says that the largest value elements you are paying for in the Boss 302, which to me would be worth it, is the engine (these are being advertised as $11,999 units from Ford Racing), the engine calibration, and all the track and durability testing, especially for the suspension tuning. Of course, all the other stuff would be included in the total price, so clearly amortizing all this over 4000 units would drop the figure.

Of course, it's not that simple, but emotion aside, given that a few more Boss parts (including the engine) are out there, one might make a value judgment with things like this in mind.

I welcome any comments

 

I agree that your numbers would get you similar performance.
However, that is missing part of the point. As you said, the engine is significant in this car, short of buying a crate engine and dropping it in you won't get the same dynamic with your build.

Equal (or greater) performance can be obtained likely for less money in, but that won't necessarily get you the same driving experience. The later is subjective and up to the individual as to their preference.

 

Indeed it is...

 

that intake requires a tune and a tuner, another roughly $600 depending. i paid 1200 for parts on the koni sport based suspension on my 10, in all you can get equal or better as you point out, but you are getting into the same money you could get the boss for. if you really want to duplicate a gt as close to the boss as possible, you will need to figure in the forged internals too, that puts you over what the boss costs.

 

[QUOTE=ShaneM;6076281]that intake requires a tune and a tuner, another roughly $600 depending.[quote]

Yep, makes sense.

I think it depends on your GT starting point and how much "Boss" you want in it. One might, for example, forgo forged internals if the upper end power increase is sufficient and one is not all-out road course racing a lot.

The title of this post mention "the $14K" question, hence my fascination with putting a few prices down.

I still love the Boss, of course!

 

[QUOTE=Tony Alonso;6076351][QUOTE=ShaneM;6076281]that intake requires a tune and a tuner, another roughly $600 depending.i understand what you meant, its interesting to look at. I think you would spend pretty much the same money if not more if you wanted to take a GT and recreate the boss 302. that is what i was looking at.