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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 12:29 PM
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Possibility of Boss 429 return?

A guy in one of my Facebook groups keeps saying he thinks that Ford will bring back the Boss 429 name for the next gen car. I think this is BS, not least because, based on the spy shots, the Boss/Hurricane engine won't fit (and neither will the 5.8L). I haven't seen any rumors to this effect, plus Ford hasn't matched GM displacements in the pony cars since the early 70s (not counting the Cobra Rs), so why would they start now, in this day and age of aggressive CAFE numbers?
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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Spadaro
A guy in one of my Facebook groups keeps saying he thinks that Ford will bring back the Boss 429 name for the next gen car. I think this is BS, not least because, based on the spy shots, the Boss/Hurricane engine won't fit (and neither will the 5.8L). I haven't seen any rumors to this effect, plus Ford hasn't matched GM displacements in the pony cars since the early 70s (not counting the Cobra Rs), so why would they start now, in this day and age of aggressive CAFE numbers?
I alway find it odd and a bit backward that GM has to tote around such big engines to be competitive. Sad, really.
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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 10:25 PM
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A 429 is 7.05 liters. Not gonna happen.
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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Fenderaddict2

I alway find it odd and a bit backward that GM has to tote around such big engines to be competitive. Sad, really.
Must be those pushrods
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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Fenderaddict2
I alway find it odd and a bit backward that GM has to tote around such big engines to be competitive. Sad, really.
Not really when its compact, lightweight and cost effective and is competitive with its more complicated albeit smaller displacement rivals.

People whine and ***** about how bloated Mustangs are and part of that has to do with the physical size of the engines Ford uses which requires a fairly wide and tall engine bay. If say Ford had a parallel engine program the Mustang could have been smaller, lighter, and more aerodynamic from the get-go with the S-197.
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Old Jun 24, 2013 | 05:01 AM
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Not really when its compact, lightweight and cost effective and is competitive with its more complicated albeit smaller displacement rivals.
Agree - the engine going in the 2014 Corvette is an excellent example of optimizing a valvetrain arrangement that is often considered "old". The fuel economy numbers projected to come the Vette are also impressive.
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Old Jun 24, 2013 | 06:08 AM
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Keep dreaming....
And who wants a big heavy engine like that in a Mustang.
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Old Jun 24, 2013 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by bob

Not really when its compact, lightweight and cost effective and is competitive with its more complicated albeit smaller displacement rivals.

People whine and ***** about how bloated Mustangs are and part of that has to do with the physical size of the engines Ford uses which requires a fairly wide and tall engine bay. If say Ford had a parallel engine program the Mustang could have been smaller, lighter, and more aerodynamic from the get-go with the S-197.
I have to agree. I think the Coyote is the next great crate engine, right up there with the LSx. But don't let displacement fool you in the GM. That engine is barely working. The Coyote is working hard to play and it is a great engine. But even the 5.3L is a head swap away from 400Hp. Plus those longer strokes prove themselves with torque through a broad band. The Coyote and LS are just two different beasts all together.

Compared to any build an LS is dirt cheap to make power. Unlike the OHC engines you only have to buy one cam as well. Sometimes keep it simple stupid works.
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Old Jun 24, 2013 | 10:24 AM
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Boss 429 redux? No.

Ford is clearly consolidating and the smaller, higher tech and often DI and FI route to power, efficiency and cleanliness when it comes to its motors.

The only outside possibility is that if Ford does decide to dredge that moniker up from the depths of time to assuage some yester-yearners, it would likely be as meaningless as, say, the GT350 or GT500 names, and would likely denote some sort of top shelf Egoboost Coyote motor variant with no more than five liters and change.
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Old Jun 24, 2013 | 10:45 AM
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Hey, Ford could always take the 6.2 Liter engine and enlarge it to 429 cubes to make a Boss 429 Raptor pickup. Who says a Boss 429 has to be a Mustang ?
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Old Jun 24, 2013 | 11:37 AM
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Never going to happen. You're more likely to see an ecoboost 4 as an option.
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Old Jun 24, 2013 | 02:41 PM
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slim to none.

Big engines don't exist with the current and certain future CAFE requirements, in fact there is a very real possiblity a V8 engine may only be an option in the top tier Mustang, eco boost v6 may one day be the GT and a base turbo engine in lower trim models
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Old Jun 24, 2013 | 05:44 PM
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slim to none.

Big engines don't exist with the current and certain future CAFE requirements, in fact there is a very real possiblity a V8 engine may only be an option in the top tier Mustang, eco boost v6 may one day be the GT and a base turbo engine in lower trim models
Eco boost v6. If its making 450 to 500 HP. Bring it on baby.
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Old Jun 24, 2013 | 06:56 PM
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Bring back the Boss 429 .
Or even the Boss 351.
We can Dream Only in America!!!!
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 08:23 AM
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I think Ford is going to offer a nuclear powerplant in the next Mustang. Now you can tell people that you read it on the internet so it must be true.
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Old Jun 26, 2013 | 08:04 AM
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I think Ford is going to offer a nuclear powerplant in the next Mustang. Now you can tell people that you read it on the internet so it must be true.
Nuclear power, so 20th century. Clearly, the Mustang will be going full flux capacitor for the new millennium. Who needs big HP when you've got gigawatts to play with.

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Old Jun 26, 2013 | 08:42 AM
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Nuclear power, so 20th century. Clearly, the Mustang will be going full flux capacitor for the new millennium. Who needs big HP when you've got gigawatts to play with.
No paint, lol
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 10:04 PM
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Agree - the engine going in the 2014 Corvette is an excellent example of optimizing a valvetrain arrangement that is often considered "old". The fuel economy numbers projected to come the Vette are also impressive.
I can't remember if was here or elsewhere but a very wise commenter made the statement that it all comes down to .BSFC (Base Specific Fuel Consumption) and they are right the engine no matter its valvetrain is the winner when it comes to the lowest .BSFC

Frankly I like both Ford and GM's power offerings and think they both make fantastic engines and each is high tech in its own right.
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Old Jun 28, 2013 | 10:45 AM
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Possibility of a Boss 429 return? About the same as seeing a 2015 Mustang running a 427 SOHC in Factory A/FX next year.
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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 07:39 AM
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the Hurricane was designed to be seven litre capable, just have to wonder why seven litres if no 429 was ever envisioned...the "highly doubtful" seems more likely than Ford ever bringing it back, BUT the possibility is still there...I hope they do

I dont think engine compartment would be a show stopper either, the engine bay is already prettymuch huge, lower the crossmember a little, maybe raise the hood a tad... just look at what they did for the original Boss 429 to shoehorn it in there- if theres a will theres a way, and guarantee the hurricane would fit easier than a hemi bgblock in a 69 chassis.

I would think though that if a BOSS429 was built, it would be more likely a race only variant like the CobraJet- think that could be a better than 50/50 possibility...a streetable version though would be very very cool to see return
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