Possibility of Boss 429 return?
6/23/13, 12:29 PM
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Possibility of Boss 429 return?
A guy in one of my Facebook groups keeps saying he thinks that Ford will bring back the Boss 429 name for the next gen car. I think this is BS, not least because, based on the spy shots, the Boss/Hurricane engine won't fit (and neither will the 5.8L). I haven't seen any rumors to this effect, plus Ford hasn't matched GM displacements in the pony cars since the early 70s (not counting the Cobra Rs), so why would they start now, in this day and age of aggressive CAFE numbers?
6/23/13, 07:58 PM
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A guy in one of my Facebook groups keeps saying he thinks that Ford will bring back the Boss 429 name for the next gen car. I think this is BS, not least because, based on the spy shots, the Boss/Hurricane engine won't fit (and neither will the 5.8L). I haven't seen any rumors to this effect, plus Ford hasn't matched GM displacements in the pony cars since the early 70s (not counting the Cobra Rs), so why would they start now, in this day and age of aggressive CAFE numbers?
6/23/13, 11:12 PM
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People whine and ***** about how bloated Mustangs are and part of that has to do with the physical size of the engines Ford uses which requires a fairly wide and tall engine bay. If say Ford had a parallel engine program the Mustang could have been smaller, lighter, and more aerodynamic from the get-go with the S-197.
6/24/13, 05:01 AM
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Agree - the engine going in the 2014 Corvette is an excellent example of optimizing a valvetrain arrangement that is often considered "old". The fuel economy numbers projected to come the Vette are also impressive.
6/24/13, 07:46 AM
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Not really when its compact, lightweight and cost effective and is competitive with its more complicated albeit smaller displacement rivals.
People whine and ***** about how bloated Mustangs are and part of that has to do with the physical size of the engines Ford uses which requires a fairly wide and tall engine bay. If say Ford had a parallel engine program the Mustang could have been smaller, lighter, and more aerodynamic from the get-go with the S-197.
Compared to any build an LS is dirt cheap to make power. Unlike the OHC engines you only have to buy one cam as well. Sometimes keep it simple stupid works.
6/24/13, 10:24 AM
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Boss 429 redux? No.
Ford is clearly consolidating and the smaller, higher tech and often DI and FI route to power, efficiency and cleanliness when it comes to its motors.
The only outside possibility is that if Ford does decide to dredge that moniker up from the depths of time to assuage some yester-yearners, it would likely be as meaningless as, say, the GT350 or GT500 names, and would likely denote some sort of top shelf Egoboost Coyote motor variant with no more than five liters and change.
Ford is clearly consolidating and the smaller, higher tech and often DI and FI route to power, efficiency and cleanliness when it comes to its motors.
The only outside possibility is that if Ford does decide to dredge that moniker up from the depths of time to assuage some yester-yearners, it would likely be as meaningless as, say, the GT350 or GT500 names, and would likely denote some sort of top shelf Egoboost Coyote motor variant with no more than five liters and change.
Who says a Boss 429 has to be a Mustang ?
6/24/13, 02:41 PM
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slim to none.
Big engines don't exist with the current and certain future CAFE requirements, in fact there is a very real possiblity a V8 engine may only be an option in the top tier Mustang, eco boost v6 may one day be the GT and a base turbo engine in lower trim models
Big engines don't exist with the current and certain future CAFE requirements, in fact there is a very real possiblity a V8 engine may only be an option in the top tier Mustang, eco boost v6 may one day be the GT and a base turbo engine in lower trim models
6/24/13, 05:44 PM
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slim to none.
Big engines don't exist with the current and certain future CAFE requirements, in fact there is a very real possiblity a V8 engine may only be an option in the top tier Mustang, eco boost v6 may one day be the GT and a base turbo engine in lower trim models
Big engines don't exist with the current and certain future CAFE requirements, in fact there is a very real possiblity a V8 engine may only be an option in the top tier Mustang, eco boost v6 may one day be the GT and a base turbo engine in lower trim models
6/26/13, 08:04 AM
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6/26/13, 08:42 AM
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6/27/13, 10:04 PM
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Frankly I like both Ford and GM's power offerings and think they both make fantastic engines and each is high tech in its own right.
7/8/13, 07:39 AM
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the Hurricane was designed to be seven litre capable, just have to wonder why seven litres if no 429 was ever envisioned...the "highly doubtful" seems more likely than Ford ever bringing it back, BUT the possibility is still there...I hope they do 
I dont think engine compartment would be a show stopper either, the engine bay is already prettymuch huge, lower the crossmember a little, maybe raise the hood a tad... just look at what they did for the original Boss 429 to shoehorn it in there- if theres a will theres a way, and guarantee the hurricane would fit easier than a hemi bgblock in a 69 chassis.
I would think though that if a BOSS429 was built, it would be more likely a race only variant like the CobraJet- think that could be a better than 50/50 possibility...a streetable version though would be very very cool to see return
I dont think engine compartment would be a show stopper either, the engine bay is already prettymuch huge, lower the crossmember a little, maybe raise the hood a tad... just look at what they did for the original Boss 429 to shoehorn it in there- if theres a will theres a way, and guarantee the hurricane would fit easier than a hemi bgblock in a 69 chassis.
I would think though that if a BOSS429 was built, it would be more likely a race only variant like the CobraJet- think that could be a better than 50/50 possibility...a streetable version though would be very very cool to see return
