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Old 5/15/18, 11:10 AM   #1  
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Is performance pack a must?

The wife and I have been seriously considering trading our 2012 GT 401a 3.73 coupe for an 18 GT convertible. Thereís a really good deal available on a demo with 1500 miles. Itís a totally loaded 10 speed except for performance pack and the active valve exhaust. I canít find any road tests or even YouTube reviews of anything but a performance pack.

Anybody here with a non performance pack have any insight? Would we be sorry for not getting it? Iím concerned about the 3.15 rear end making the car feel weak and not snappy where Iím used to a 3.73 manual.
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Old 5/15/18, 08:00 PM   #2  
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I've driven the '15 3.31. If felt soft and slow (tho more comfortable and refined) compared to my '14 GT Track Pack.
2 thoughts:
1) I would say you don't really need a PP unless you tack the car
2) 3.31 is not optimal on a newer GTs. They have gotten heavier after all. You could just buy it and spend a few hundred $ to swap the gears to 3.73s
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I've driven the '15 3.31. If felt soft and slow (tho more comfortable and refined) compared to my '14 GT Track Pack.
2 thoughts:
1) I would say you don't really need a PP unless you tack the car
2) 3.31 is not optimal on a newer GTs. They have gotten heavier after all. You could just buy it and spend a few hundred $ to swap the gears to 3.73s
RE the 15 you drove, you also have to account that the 18 has the 10 speed, and from what I've read its got some seriously low ratios in the first few gears, and the ratios are going to be closer together all the way up because of the number of them, keeping it in the powerband better.

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That is a good point. Plus the one I drove was a manual.
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I have a '18 GT premium w/o the PP. The A10 is amazing and will not disappoint. The PP for street use is way too expensive and the tire / wheel issues are more added misery. Black rims that get stone chipped, high wear Michelin Pilot Sports that may last 20K, non rotational, staggered tires, and no possibility of having a spare tire on board. Yes the 6 piston Brembos are a delight but the 4 piston standard brakes are very strong and look like they came off a Boss 302.
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Also the stock exhaust in the 2018 is perfect except for early morning blast offs. My neighbors seem to love it they tell me. Not sure if the active exhaust will be that durable in the long run. I would hate to have it stick in the quiet blocked mode in the years ahead due to heat, corrosion, and number of cycles.
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I have a '18 GT premium w/o the PP. The A10 is amazing and will not disappoint. The PP for street use is way too expensive and the tire / wheel issues are more added misery. Black rims that get stone chipped, high wear Michelin Pilot Sports that may last 20K, non rotational, staggered tires, and no possibility of having a spare tire on board. Yes the 6 piston Brembos are a delight but the 4 piston standard brakes are very strong and look like they came off a Boss 302.
Have you done a 0-60 on it? The automatics are supposedly capable of sub 4 second 0-60, but Iím sure those tests are all with the performance pack. We havenít driven one of the new 10 speeds yet, so Iím just curious if itís going to be faster than our manual 12. Iím glad the stock exhaust is better now. It sucked on our 12. Iím not looking to make anybodyís ears bleed, but I do want to hear it. Running an x pipe and GT 500 axle backs now, and itís just adequate. Iím not really concerned about the tire wear since this is strictly a weekend car. I bet we donít put 10000 miles on our current Mustang in 4 years. We were considering a 13-14 GT 500 also, but I think the 18 GT will be a lot more livable car, and the wife used to have a convertible when she was a teenager and has been feeling nostalgic. Lol
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I am still in the break in mode but I did try out the "drag race mode" twice and it chirps the tires between 2nd and again at 3rd gear. Just point and hold on for a thrilling ride. The manual mode is so cool with the rev matching on down shifts. I also own a FOX 5 speed stick and this A10 is just as entertaining with all of the different driving modes at the flick of a toggle.
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I have a '18 GT premium w/o the PP. The A10 is amazing and will not disappoint. The PP for street use is way too expensive . . . high wear Michelin Pilot Sports that may last 20K, non rotational, staggered tires, . . . . Yes the 6 piston Brembos are a delight . . . .
Sounds like the PP is definitely NOT a "must" for a street car, but would be really really cool for a track and street car

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. . . The manual mode is so cool with the rev matching on down shifts. I also own a FOX 5 speed stick and this A10 is just as entertaining with all of the different driving modes at the flick of a toggle.
The A10 sounds like it would be awesome for a track car, even though it feels a little like "cheating." Can you get the A10 with the PP?
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The A10 sounds like it would be awesome for a track car, even though it feels a little like "cheating." Can you get the A10 with the PP?
Yes. Muscle Mustangs & Fast Fords tested one a few months ago at the strip. Fully loaded and ran an 11.83 @ 119 mph bone stock. Not sure about how it does at the track.
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You can get the level 1 PP with the A10, and with or without the Magna ride. The level 2 PP only comes with the 6 speed manual and Magna ride.
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I am not too thrilled with the PP level 2 wheels and tires sticking outside of the fenders....yikes. And those Michelin Cup 2 tires are pretty close to racing slicks and are designed for really one purpose, track driving. I already did research into what the Magna Ride struts and shock cost to replace down the road and it is not pretty. You need to weave and dodge your way through the option list to get exactly what you want. I special ordered my 2018 at the right time with an eye towards long term ownership costs.
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