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Old Oct 30, 2014 | 03:03 PM
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Motor Trend Comparison

Mustang, Camaro & Challenger

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ck_mustang_gt/
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Old Oct 30, 2014 | 04:00 PM
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Seams like the new Stang has missed its mark. However most of the funds probably went into engineering the new car and in the coming years Ford will get to refine the performance and suspension more. Either way from the exterior and interior it already has the competition beat. It just needs to edge them out on performance now.
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 03:58 AM
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I got my Motor Trend yesterday. Sad to read this, knowing the Camaro is going to lose a little weight in a couple years
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 05:49 AM
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MT comparisons are crap. Had they chose a camaro SS and Challenger R/T it would be better, but they just can't help themselves. It would not surprise me to see them compare the Mustang (in any form) to the new McLaren ... ok sarcastic.
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 07:39 AM
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Yeah I'm not about to let any rag tell me what to like.
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 07:44 AM
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The way I see it, Ford had several years, millions of dollars, all the chassis tuning resources you could ever want, and even the ability to buy an example of every competitor to directly compare, and still, even with the cure-all magic of IRS, failed to beat the PP equivalent mullet from last year. This result can't have been a surprise over in Dearborn. Somebody settled for "ok" to get it on the streets.

Weren't we setting our sights on the 911? Wasn't the mullet not even an afterthought?

I'll give it some love if it wins it's class at nationals in SCCA Solo2 the way the 2011 with its terrible LRA did in 2010..
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 09:34 AM
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Yipes...not good.

Of the three, I think the Challenger Scat Pack with the amazing 392 is the most appealing. So shoot me.

Let's see what 2017 brings...undoubtedly, Ford has left something on the table to combat the inevitable new/light Camaro.
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by MRGTX
Yipes...not good.

Of the three, I think the Challenger Scat Pack with the amazing 392 is the most appealing. So shoot me.

Let's see what 2017 brings...undoubtedly, Ford has left something on the table to combat the inevitable new/light Camaro.
I'd be interested to see track comparisons from elsewhere - both track location, and magazine. These multiple compare articles have all been done on the same track from what I see so far - Willow Springs. They are also from the same magazine - MT.
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 10:27 AM
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I for one like the 1LE. I also love my GT. So one day I may own both. I'd have to get the 1LE in a rag top though, just so i could see

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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 11:07 AM
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Scat Pack FTW. It may be huge but it has gobs of horsepower.
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DarrenGT
I for one like the 1LE. I also love my GT. So one day I may own both. I'd have to get the 1LE in a rag top though, just so i could see

LOL... nice. Sadly the next-gen Camaro seems to have the same Michael Bay-esque aesthetics and likely not better in terms of visibility.

That said, I will never be ashamed of admitting my love for the Camaro. It's a front engine, rwd coupe with an astounding V8 and **** good manual gear box. That's an unbeatable formula no matter what the wrapper looks like.

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Scat Pack FTW. It may be huge but it has gobs of horsepower.
Challenger has always been a charmer. Strong rumors persist that 2017 will feature an all new, smaller, lighter Challenger. Bring it on!
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 01:08 PM
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Another Camaro v '15 Stang review



http://driving.ca/chevrolet/camaro/r...ord-mustang-gt
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 01:32 PM
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Thank you for providing a more balanced review.
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrsuitcase
Thank you for providing a more balanced review.
Except it was another 1LE compared to a regular GT Premium, not even PP lol.

I really hope Ford comes out with a proper Track Pack to compete with the 1LE. I have to admit, the 1LE package is badarse and I'm jealous that GM offers it. The Brembo Package is a good deal, but the Track Pack, at least on my 2014, was way overpriced. It should've come with the Boss302 LS tires and some unique wheels, if they weren't going to change the suspension at all (compared to the Brembo Pack). Really, if Ford offered the Track Pack with the equivalent Boss302 suspension and wheel/tire combo, the Track Pack would've made a much better competitor to the 1LE.
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 06:41 PM
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I was at the Dodge/Jeep dealer today ordering a Wrangler Unlimited for the wife. I drove a Scat Pak & must say porky & all, I REALLY liked it. I'm almost maybe considering one to drive for a year or two. Camaro, I won't even bother sitting in one, they look like cheap junk inside & same old Camaro outside. It takes all kinds & that's why all these cars are so popular. Scott
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Old Nov 1, 2014 | 07:04 AM
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Sorry, looking at the other cars sitting next to the Mustang it's an EASY choice, the others look COOL, especially the Camaro. That yellow Mustang looks SILLY. If you put my '13 BOSS in the mix, it's a visual stand out, and looks like it belongs in the group, AND it produces 1/4 mile times identical to the Hellcat with stock rubber. (put drag radials on that Hellcat, it's all over!) No thanks, I'll stick to a 12-13 BOSS or 13-14 Shelby.

I'm sure Ford will kick up the cool in upcoming years, but they will be playing catchup unless they do something drastic. They lighten and refine the Camaro, Ford is screwed. I for one agree with their analysis.

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Old Nov 1, 2014 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by sgallison
I was at the Dodge/Jeep dealer today ordering a Wrangler Unlimited for the wife. I drove a Scat Pak & must say porky & all, I REALLY liked it. I'm almost maybe considering one to drive for a year or two. Camaro, I won't even bother sitting in one, they look like cheap junk inside & same old Camaro outside. It takes all kinds & that's why all these cars are so popular. Scott
Hah, in many ways, the Rubenesque Challenger is the car I hate to love. However, somehow, the porky ponycar plucks the heartstrings in some odd way.
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Old Nov 1, 2014 | 02:55 PM
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Scat is a slang term for feces.
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Old Nov 1, 2014 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Getportfolio
Scat is a slang term for feces.
Apropos...



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Old Nov 1, 2014 | 05:56 PM
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Scat is a slang term for feces.
Yeah - it's a horrible name for a performance package but that **** sure moves pretty quick!
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