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This has been brought up numerous times but I still don't get how a MY2014, with a release in Spring 2013(?), makes more sense than a MY2015, with a release in Spring 2014, if they're wanting to release on the 50th anniversary. I never thought much about the other anniversary models but is Ford marketing really so dumb as to not recognize that there was no Mustang MY1964?
The 2014 is the 50th mustang but it's not an anniversary. It just sounds better to call it "anniversary" over "edition" blame marketing. 2015 is the 50th anniversary
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Ford preparing to lock down design for 50th anniversary Mustang
http://europe.autonews.com/article/2...ionCat=product
FRANKFURT -- Ford’s design chief, J Mays, says the styling for the next-generation Mustang is “being locked down.”
The redesigned car arrives for 2014 and coincides with a big historical event for Ford enthusiasts, Mustang’s 50th anniversary.
So can we expect another evolution of today’s retro look?
No way, Mays said this week during an interview at the Frankfurt auto show.
Mays points to the Mustang redesigns introduced in 2005 and 2010: “Both of those cars everybody would say, ‘they are retro vehicles.’ ”
But Mays said the next-generation Mustang will follow a different road.
“The challenge or the opportunity for 2014 with a 50th anniversary car is to not just look back over your shoulder, but to try to win all of the Mustang faithful yet bring the brand forward as well,” he says.
“It has to look like a Mustang. But you go down a list of things that might or might not be necessary to make the car look like a Mustang.”
The bottom line: The car arriving for 2014 will be a fresh, new interpretation to “Mustang” and a car that just might catch the eye of a new group of buyers.¬¬
FRANKFURT -- Ford’s design chief, J Mays, says the styling for the next-generation Mustang is “being locked down.”
The redesigned car arrives for 2014 and coincides with a big historical event for Ford enthusiasts, Mustang’s 50th anniversary.
So can we expect another evolution of today’s retro look?
No way, Mays said this week during an interview at the Frankfurt auto show.
Mays points to the Mustang redesigns introduced in 2005 and 2010: “Both of those cars everybody would say, ‘they are retro vehicles.’ ”
But Mays said the next-generation Mustang will follow a different road.
“The challenge or the opportunity for 2014 with a 50th anniversary car is to not just look back over your shoulder, but to try to win all of the Mustang faithful yet bring the brand forward as well,” he says.
“It has to look like a Mustang. But you go down a list of things that might or might not be necessary to make the car look like a Mustang.”
The bottom line: The car arriving for 2014 will be a fresh, new interpretation to “Mustang” and a car that just might catch the eye of a new group of buyers.¬¬
As I've often asserted in the past, the burden lies 110% on Ford's shoulders to sell a product that 03 Terminator or any other American would freely and rationally want to buy, not simply to wave an American flag over a second best domestic car in some effort to guilt trip the buyer into buying something he might not otherwise purchase.
If a rational buyer freely purchases a superior foreign product with his/her own money, then any failure lies solely with the manufacturer for failing both the customer individually and the country as a whole.
That all said, that an upper level Mustang (Boss, GT500) can now provide very credible competition to the excellent M3 speaks extremely well to how far Ford has been meeting that burden. Given that impressive arc of improvement, especially over the last few years only makes me look that much more excitedly to the 2015 Stang -- and should be worrying those boys in Bavaria a whole lot.
If a rational buyer freely purchases a superior foreign product with his/her own money, then any failure lies solely with the manufacturer for failing both the customer individually and the country as a whole.
That all said, that an upper level Mustang (Boss, GT500) can now provide very credible competition to the excellent M3 speaks extremely well to how far Ford has been meeting that burden. Given that impressive arc of improvement, especially over the last few years only makes me look that much more excitedly to the 2015 Stang -- and should be worrying those boys in Bavaria a whole lot.
I'll let the buyer define for him/herself by what criteria they would judge a car and how closely a car must meet or exceed those criteria to justify laying out their own money to buy it.
I think we would both agree that we would like people to be buying American cars and that would be of immense benefit to our economy. However, I would just put the onus of justifying that purchase 100% upon the manufacturer to produce the finest products, period. I have no patience with any domestic manufacturer resorting to a self-serving nationalism to hawk their wares rather than doing the hard work to make sure American products are the world's best, deserving of purchase by that fact alone.
This defensive "Buy American" bunker mentality only breeds complacency in domestic manufacturers and has and will degrade overall American competitiveness over time. We should break out of the retreatist mentality, go on the offense and aggressively produce the best products in the world and take the battle to other markets.
The good news is that American car companies are making immense strides in designing, developing and producing some of the finest cars in the world, period, Mustangs included. That domestic potential has always been there, but sadly, not always realized. I can't get over the progress the Stang has made within the past 10 years, going from the rolling relic SN95 platform to the current 3.7, 5.0 and 5.4 models, especially the new Boss.
That a 5.0 Mustang, Boss of even GT, can credibly be compared to the excellent if $20K dearer M3 -- without a laundry list of asterix -- is hugely impressive. Should this arc of unalloyed American product excellence continue into the new 2015 Stang, it will be BMW pleading with German buyers to shun Mustangs solely out of some self-serving recourse to German nationalism.
I think we would both agree that we would like people to be buying American cars and that would be of immense benefit to our economy. However, I would just put the onus of justifying that purchase 100% upon the manufacturer to produce the finest products, period. I have no patience with any domestic manufacturer resorting to a self-serving nationalism to hawk their wares rather than doing the hard work to make sure American products are the world's best, deserving of purchase by that fact alone.
This defensive "Buy American" bunker mentality only breeds complacency in domestic manufacturers and has and will degrade overall American competitiveness over time. We should break out of the retreatist mentality, go on the offense and aggressively produce the best products in the world and take the battle to other markets.
The good news is that American car companies are making immense strides in designing, developing and producing some of the finest cars in the world, period, Mustangs included. That domestic potential has always been there, but sadly, not always realized. I can't get over the progress the Stang has made within the past 10 years, going from the rolling relic SN95 platform to the current 3.7, 5.0 and 5.4 models, especially the new Boss.
That a 5.0 Mustang, Boss of even GT, can credibly be compared to the excellent if $20K dearer M3 -- without a laundry list of asterix -- is hugely impressive. Should this arc of unalloyed American product excellence continue into the new 2015 Stang, it will be BMW pleading with German buyers to shun Mustangs solely out of some self-serving recourse to German nationalism.
Last edited by rhumb; Oct 6, 2011 at 12:55 PM.
Please get back on topic. I'm interested in the subject and I want to learn more, not this petty pissing contest over a remark made by cdynaco that wasn't even a big deal until others turned it into one.
Why are people still saying the redesign will be a 2014MY? That means it would hit dealer lots in Spring of 2013.. so the 2013 refresh is going to have one year? Doesn't make sense. I've always thought the 50th would be the 2015MY, coming in Spring of 2014.
I think it would be cool if Ford released it as Job 2 of 2014MY.. that would really be 2014 1/2.
Why are people still saying the redesign will be a 2014MY? That means it would hit dealer lots in Spring of 2013.. so the 2013 refresh is going to have one year? Doesn't make sense. I've always thought the 50th would be the 2015MY, coming in Spring of 2014.
I think it would be cool if Ford released it as Job 2 of 2014MY.. that would really be 2014 1/2.
Originally Posted by JimmyM
Please get back on topic. I'm interested in the subject and I want to learn more, not this petty pissing contest over a remark made by cdynaco that wasn't even a big deal until others turned it into one.
Why are people still saying the redesign will be a 2014MY? That means it would hit dealer lots in Spring of 2013.. so the 2013 refresh is going to have one year? Doesn't make sense. I've always thought the 50th would be the 2015MY, coming in Spring of 2014.
I think it would be cool if Ford released it as Job 2 of 2014MY.. that would really be 2014 1/2.
Why are people still saying the redesign will be a 2014MY? That means it would hit dealer lots in Spring of 2013.. so the 2013 refresh is going to have one year? Doesn't make sense. I've always thought the 50th would be the 2015MY, coming in Spring of 2014.
I think it would be cool if Ford released it as Job 2 of 2014MY.. that would really be 2014 1/2.
Originally Posted by cdynaco
The Bullitt's were Job 2 and I've seen it referred to a number of times as 2008.5. Though not on the Hero Card or the Window Sticker.

Please get back on topic. I'm interested in the subject and I want to learn more, not this petty pissing contest over a remark made by cdynaco that wasn't even a big deal until others turned it into one.
Why are people still saying the redesign will be a 2014MY? That means it would hit dealer lots in Spring of 2013.. so the 2013 refresh is going to have one year? Doesn't make sense. I've always thought the 50th would be the 2015MY, coming in Spring of 2014.
I think it would be cool if Ford released it as Job 2 of 2014MY.. that would really be 2014 1/2.
Why are people still saying the redesign will be a 2014MY? That means it would hit dealer lots in Spring of 2013.. so the 2013 refresh is going to have one year? Doesn't make sense. I've always thought the 50th would be the 2015MY, coming in Spring of 2014.
I think it would be cool if Ford released it as Job 2 of 2014MY.. that would really be 2014 1/2.
There is a solution to this first MY(64.5/65) Mustang problem: call/email Bill Ford or Alan Mullaly and ask them. That will surely put this question to rest.
Please get back on topic. I'm interested in the subject and I want to learn more, not this petty pissing contest over a remark made by cdynaco that wasn't even a big deal until others turned it into one.
Why are people still saying the redesign will be a 2014MY? That means it would hit dealer lots in Spring of 2013.. so the 2013 refresh is going to have one year? Doesn't make sense. I've always thought the 50th would be the 2015MY, coming in Spring of 2014.
I think it would be cool if Ford released it as Job 2 of 2014MY.. that would really be 2014 1/2.
Why are people still saying the redesign will be a 2014MY? That means it would hit dealer lots in Spring of 2013.. so the 2013 refresh is going to have one year? Doesn't make sense. I've always thought the 50th would be the 2015MY, coming in Spring of 2014.
I think it would be cool if Ford released it as Job 2 of 2014MY.. that would really be 2014 1/2.
As for dates, my supposition will be an early/mid-2014 announcement and car show debut with actual production and availability of the 2015 model year Next Stang commencing Fall/Winter of 2014.
MY2013 will likely just be a rather mild refresh to hold things over until the MY2015 redo.
Found this article today that should clear up the model year issue. The pic is a concept car from several years ago.
http://www.stangtv.com/news/refreshe...odel-for-2015/
http://www.stangtv.com/news/refreshe...odel-for-2015/
LOL. This is what I was talking about.
The poster above me refers to an article saying it will be 2015MY. The guy above him suspects it will be a Job 2 2014 Fall/Winter release. And the guy above them both believes it will be the 2014MY for the redesign.
Insane. I wish a Ford exec would just come out and say "OK, **** it. The next redesign Mustang will come out in Spring/Fall of 2013/2014."
The poster above me refers to an article saying it will be 2015MY. The guy above him suspects it will be a Job 2 2014 Fall/Winter release. And the guy above them both believes it will be the 2014MY for the redesign.
Insane. I wish a Ford exec would just come out and say "OK, **** it. The next redesign Mustang will come out in Spring/Fall of 2013/2014."
LOL. This is what I was talking about.
The poster above me refers to an article saying it will be 2015MY. The guy above him suspects it will be a Job 2 2014 Fall/Winter release. And the guy above them both believes it will be the 2014MY for the redesign.
Insane. I wish a Ford exec would just come out and say "OK, **** it. The next redesign Mustang will come out in Spring/Fall of 2013/2014."

The poster above me refers to an article saying it will be 2015MY. The guy above him suspects it will be a Job 2 2014 Fall/Winter release. And the guy above them both believes it will be the 2014MY for the redesign.
Insane. I wish a Ford exec would just come out and say "OK, **** it. The next redesign Mustang will come out in Spring/Fall of 2013/2014."
They did 9.13.
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So I just heard the official Ford public announcement via Bloomberg news brief for the (quoting) ''redesigned version of its Mustang sports car, but Ford's VP says you'll have to wait for the 2014 model - and that revamped Mustang will honor the Mustang 50th anniversary".
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So I just heard the official Ford public announcement via Bloomberg news brief for the (quoting) ''redesigned version of its Mustang sports car, but Ford's VP says you'll have to wait for the 2014 model - and that revamped Mustang will honor the Mustang 50th anniversary".
Originally Posted by cdynaco
I guess nobody believes this. I heard it and saw it and it was recorded on my DVR. I played it back so as to quote it verbatim.


