J Mays and the 2015 Mustang
12/28/11, 08:48 PM
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If it was a bit more than a year ago I wonder if it is possible that the 2013 refresh wasn't yet solidified as a program since, IIRC, initially they weren't going to refresh the car significantly prior to the next gen. If so, potentially that could have thrown a damper on showing the car this early.
12/29/11, 08:16 AM
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12/29/11, 08:44 AM
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Perhaps we'll get more of a true "Concept" car in the same vein that the current (S197) Mustang concept came out a year or so before the production car. While I don't recall off hand the specific timings of the previous Concept and production release, presuming around a year or so ought to have Ford releasing a next-gen concept sometime in mid-late 2012 / early 2013, to be followed up by the production car in April 2014 just in time for the 50th Anniversary.
1/2/12, 09:16 PM
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The Mustang doesn't really need a concept to get excitement jinned up, and Ford wants to avoid the Camaro effect of having the show car around so long the production car seems like a refresh rather than a debut.
1/2/12, 09:41 PM
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look at how under wraps the 2010 refresh was kept... they like the 'big reveal' level of hype now it seems. just hope the next new one is as generaly well received as the 05, and 13...
the 05 preproduction model was displayed with the 04 mach1, they didnt seem too worried abut that, and the05 prepro also had a lot of changes from the concept, but it was generally still well accepted...
the 10 was more than a little controversial due to the backend, enough that I kinda hoped maybe they might test the waters a little more via less cammo on test mules and whatnot just to gage how well the styling ideas would go over before saying here it is/take it or leave it next time around...
chevy did flash the camaro around for what seemed like a decade, but at least there were no surprises really...I liked how Dodge just updated one of their generally most liked models and went oldschool with it- good looks never go out of style, think ford coulda still repopped a 69 fastback and even the fast and furious crowd would love it... maybe I'm just a dinosaur- but that to me was still one of the best looking cars of all time, and like the challenger, could be made a *little* bigger/safer than the original with very similar lines...but man, that challenger is a huge huge car- but heck, its a 300C underneath.
the 05 preproduction model was displayed with the 04 mach1, they didnt seem too worried abut that, and the05 prepro also had a lot of changes from the concept, but it was generally still well accepted...
the 10 was more than a little controversial due to the backend, enough that I kinda hoped maybe they might test the waters a little more via less cammo on test mules and whatnot just to gage how well the styling ideas would go over before saying here it is/take it or leave it next time around...
chevy did flash the camaro around for what seemed like a decade, but at least there were no surprises really...I liked how Dodge just updated one of their generally most liked models and went oldschool with it- good looks never go out of style, think ford coulda still repopped a 69 fastback and even the fast and furious crowd would love it... maybe I'm just a dinosaur- but that to me was still one of the best looking cars of all time, and like the challenger, could be made a *little* bigger/safer than the original with very similar lines...but man, that challenger is a huge huge car- but heck, its a 300C underneath.
1/3/12, 08:17 AM
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The 2005 Concept Mustang, both hardtop and vert, were introduced at the 2003 North American International Auto Show, so, if presuming a similar timing schedule for a 50th Anniversary NextStang, that would mean a 2013 NAIAS 2015 Concept.
However, the 1965 Mustang actually began production March 9, 1964 and was introduced at the April 17, 1964 New York World's fair. So presuming a year's lead time for a concept, that could mean a 2015 Mustang Concept for the 2012 NAIAS. Given the lack of pre-show buzz though, I would sort of doubt this time line though not rule it out entirely. Such a roll out, as I've mentioned earlier, would tend to undercut the already announced 2013 Mustang, never mind a carry over 2014 Mustang, so I would presume a 2013 NAIAS 2015 Concept roll out and the production 2015 being revealed at the 2014 NAIAS.
Of course, all this presumes Ford hewing fairly closely to the Gen I Mustang time lines and they are certainly not obligated to do so, beyond perhaps having the a new 2015 Mustang coinciding with its 50th anniversary. More likely is that the 2012 NAIAS concept buzz refers to the Ford Evos, which may indeed foreshadow the 2015 Mustang perhaps a bit more rather than less and that's how that tie-in got mentioned.
As for a 2014 carry over Mustang, that would either be a very short production run or perhaps, like the C3-C4 Vette transition, Ford may simply skip an actual 2014 Mustang and simply drag out the 2013 to fill the gap. That stretch does seem like a bit of a stretch though, especially given the 2013 face lift (for only "one" year model run?) and would argue for a 2014 NAIAS Concept and 2015 NAIAS production reveal, though that time line would not be without its own issues.
However, the 1965 Mustang actually began production March 9, 1964 and was introduced at the April 17, 1964 New York World's fair. So presuming a year's lead time for a concept, that could mean a 2015 Mustang Concept for the 2012 NAIAS. Given the lack of pre-show buzz though, I would sort of doubt this time line though not rule it out entirely. Such a roll out, as I've mentioned earlier, would tend to undercut the already announced 2013 Mustang, never mind a carry over 2014 Mustang, so I would presume a 2013 NAIAS 2015 Concept roll out and the production 2015 being revealed at the 2014 NAIAS.
Of course, all this presumes Ford hewing fairly closely to the Gen I Mustang time lines and they are certainly not obligated to do so, beyond perhaps having the a new 2015 Mustang coinciding with its 50th anniversary. More likely is that the 2012 NAIAS concept buzz refers to the Ford Evos, which may indeed foreshadow the 2015 Mustang perhaps a bit more rather than less and that's how that tie-in got mentioned.
As for a 2014 carry over Mustang, that would either be a very short production run or perhaps, like the C3-C4 Vette transition, Ford may simply skip an actual 2014 Mustang and simply drag out the 2013 to fill the gap. That stretch does seem like a bit of a stretch though, especially given the 2013 face lift (for only "one" year model run?) and would argue for a 2014 NAIAS Concept and 2015 NAIAS production reveal, though that time line would not be without its own issues.
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1/9/12, 08:29 PM
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I owuld love to see a '69 fastback influenced next gen Stang. That is one my favorite muscle/pony cars of all time. Also agree with the Chally commets, classic good looks never grow old. This coming from someone whjo wasn't even alive at the heyday of classic muscle car styling.
1/10/12, 11:47 AM
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I owuld love to see a '69 fastback influenced next gen Stang. That is one my favorite muscle/pony cars of all time. Also agree with the Chally commets, classic good looks never grow old. This coming from someone whjo wasn't even alive at the heyday of classic muscle car styling.
1/10/12, 12:01 PM
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I love the idea of a hatchback again. It's been nearly 20 years since Mustang came as a hatchback.
I definitely like the idea of having choices, meaning fastback, notchback or vert. Traditionally (until 1994), that was always the case. Since then, we can only get a notchback or a vert.
I definitely like the idea of having choices, meaning fastback, notchback or vert. Traditionally (until 1994), that was always the case. Since then, we can only get a notchback or a vert.
1/10/12, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by danimal15
I love the idea of a hatchback again. It's been nearly 20 years since Mustang came as a hatchback.
I definitely like the idea of having choices, meaning fastback, notchback or vert. Traditionally (until 1994), that was always the case. Since then, we can only get a notchback or a vert.
I definitely like the idea of having choices, meaning fastback, notchback or vert. Traditionally (until 1994), that was always the case. Since then, we can only get a notchback or a vert.
1/22/12, 02:56 PM
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I wouldn't really expect anything until well after the 2013 Stang's been out for a while. It will already be tricky enough as it is for Ford to sell the existing-platform 2013 and 2014s with the all new 2015 looming on the horizon. No point in totally undercutting their current sales.
Most reports, and what seems more likely is the 2014 will be the new Mustang as it celebrates 50 years of the Mustang.
However, I will state, occasionally and it is possible that the 2014 will be a limited edition version of the 2013 redesign and the 2015 be the all new Mustang.
Honestly I hope it is the former, as with the release of the 2013 models and the new GT500, I was seriously thinking of getting a 2013 GT500 when they are released in summer of this year.
But I have got to admit, it would really suck to have the all new 2013 GT500 only for a year to a year and a half later (presumably late 2013 or early 2014) the all new Mustang debuts.
It would be better for the 2013 Mustang sales if consumers knew that one year later their newly updated 2013 Mustangs weren't going to become the "old" Mustang.
Let the 2014 Mustang be the slow seller in preparation for the new 2015, and release 5000 50 year anniversary Mustang's in 2014. Those would all sell out for sure.
1/22/12, 05:01 PM
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Not sure why this forum is stating the new Mustang will be a 2015
Most reports, and what seems more likely is the 2014 will be the new Mustang as it celebrates 50 years of the Mustang.
However, I will state, occasionally and it is possible that the 2014 will be a limited edition version of the 2013 redesign and the 2015 be the all new Mustang.
Most reports, and what seems more likely is the 2014 will be the new Mustang as it celebrates 50 years of the Mustang.
However, I will state, occasionally and it is possible that the 2014 will be a limited edition version of the 2013 redesign and the 2015 be the all new Mustang.
If Ford follows the product cadence it has been the past number of years (as has been reported in various places), a new Mustang showing up in calendar year 2014 will be known as a 2015 Mustang.
Since April 17 is the anniversary date, I could see 2014 Mustangs being produced starting in early 2013 until early 2014, with the 2015 arriving by that time.
1/22/12, 07:34 PM
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While the calendar year 1964 saw the release of the Mustang, the model year was 1965, even though the number 1964 1/2 is used to denote the first few months of production. This is mentioned here.
If Ford follows the product cadence it has been the past number of years (as has been reported in various places), a new Mustang showing up in calendar year 2014 will be known as a 2015 Mustang.
Since April 17 is the anniversary date, I could see 2014 Mustangs being produced starting in early 2013 until early 2014, with the 2015 arriving by that time.
If Ford follows the product cadence it has been the past number of years (as has been reported in various places), a new Mustang showing up in calendar year 2014 will be known as a 2015 Mustang.
Since April 17 is the anniversary date, I could see 2014 Mustangs being produced starting in early 2013 until early 2014, with the 2015 arriving by that time.
Thanks for the info!
1/23/12, 09:59 AM
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While the calendar year 1964 saw the release of the Mustang, the model year was 1965, even though the number 1964 1/2 is used to denote the first few months of production. This is mentioned here.
If Ford follows the product cadence it has been the past number of years (as has been reported in various places), a new Mustang showing up in calendar year 2014 will be known as a 2015 Mustang.
Since April 17 is the anniversary date, I could see 2014 Mustangs being produced starting in early 2013 until early 2014, with the 2015 arriving by that time.
If Ford follows the product cadence it has been the past number of years (as has been reported in various places), a new Mustang showing up in calendar year 2014 will be known as a 2015 Mustang.
Since April 17 is the anniversary date, I could see 2014 Mustangs being produced starting in early 2013 until early 2014, with the 2015 arriving by that time.
1/23/12, 11:46 AM
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Mr Alonso is spot on.
Besides, you'll notice that the forums are named "2010-2014".............and "2015 - the next generation".............they know things on here, y'know
Besides, you'll notice that the forums are named "2010-2014".............and "2015 - the next generation".............they know things on here, y'know
