I'd like to see some tests done comparing the V6 and Ecoboost engines up in the high country out west! If they perform as I'd expect at 5000 feet or so (and if Ford could get the word out with proper advertising), the Ecoboost Mustang could be a big seller in the Western states.

*Provided the Ecoboost version does NOT cost as much as the GT!

 

rev matching is needed on the auto.
please keep it off of the manual, at least by default.
If you want to pay extra for it? then fine. Or, if its always off w/ an on switch (opposite traction control etc) then I suppose that is OK too. I'd hate to have this on by default as I would turn it off every single time I get in and drive the car (I do this already selecting sport mode...)

But really rev matching w/ heal-toe is super easy. you just need to practice. It can be 2nd nature really. super easy on the street too since you aren't dive bombing the corners and zing the engine sky high before each corner entry.
That is along the lines of saying "give us an automatic clutch, so I don't have to shift.." then buy an automatic

If you aren't using paddle shifters, you don't need rev matching software.

 

lolol

 

Has there been any mention of the weight of the 2.3l? I noticed they said 305+, so not sure how big of a + it will be but weight will be a major facor in it too. I can't wait to see one on the track.

 

Good news is that they're keeping the 3.7 which means more HP mods are coming. I think a lot of aftermarket companies were waiting to make sure.

Ecoboost will sound like crap and it's pretty much maxed out anyway.

 

You've heard it and know what the ALL-NEW 2.3L Eco is capable of?
Do tell.

It's ok, I'll wait.
.......

 

After looking at the data provided by Ford for the 2.3 liter four, it is apparent the engine is made to live with far more than 305 horsepower. Forged crank and forged connecting rods indicate to me the engine may produce at least 350 horsepower. You all know Ford Motorsports will most likely offer a larger turbo to kick out 400 horsepower. Remember Ford is offering the ecoboost 2.3 as a premium to the V6. So, the ecoboost will be in a league above the v6.

 

Isn't that just completely un-nessesary? Wasn't double-clutching for tranny's with no synchronizers? Essentially, rev match these days is just keeping the downshift smooth for zipping out of turns, right? Also, probably easier on your clutch maybe. Right?

 

Just a gearhead thing. I like being in tune with my machine. Plus I've had to rebuild a few transmissions over the years and I've seen how beat used synchro's can be. Its just easier on the synchro's to bring the input shaft up to the output shaft's rpm, rather than just jamming on a downshift from 4-3 or 3-2. I know where the sound of my engine should be on each gear. It only takes a second.
Bet my synchro's look brand new at 25k. And my 83 F150 trans is still shifting great at 254k.

 

Just to chime in on this, I have to agree. I don't get the vitriol. A statement was made which was pro tech. Instantly there is attack. Why? Modern tech has made cars faster, better handling, improved mpg.... I absolutely get enjoying expressing yourself via throttle, contact patch, steering wheel and skill. But, this is hardly a reason to be insulting to someone who enjoys his performance in a different manner.

A 65 big block vette would be a blast to drive, but a modern c7 with an auto and all manner of computer helpers will smoke the hell out of it and no doubt be a different, but equally involving kind of fun.

To the purist, I salute you. To the explorer of modern performance tech, you also. I understand that others won't enjoy cars in exactly the same manner that i do and that's ok. It makes conversations more interesting.

 

I totally agree with everything you've said. I've come to realize on this site that many people either don't care to write in a less offensive manner but mean no disrespect or are just trying to be annoying for their amusement.

 

when I lived in flagstaff(8500 feet) the turbo cars(STI's and Evo's) did very well.


The ecoboost 2.0 sounds better then the awful and hollow sounding V6.


The 2.0 ecoboost ford is putting in the ST is handling 350-480hp. I haven't heard of any major failures. I think a lot of people will have issue with the V6 motor being under the four banger.

 

Poor poor V6.

 

Vitriol and attack? Geez. That's pretty extreme. If you take it that far, that's on you. Remember, the internet doesn't express as well as in person.

We are talking Mustang here. An American driver's car. That's why some made the comments. If you want auto everything, get an auto, get a secretary's model. But don't mess with our driver's experience for those of us that do actually want to drive our machine - as in actually shift manually.

IMO.

 

I can understand greater tech options, but I agree, not at the expense of a full driving experience. For example, if all the autos came with the paddles no matter what, I'd pass. I get nothing but a pain in the behind from paddles AKA childhood memories.

 

Some people have a lot of passion when it comes to the purity of the Mustang. This is not a luxury car. This is not a European touring car. This is not a import rice rocket. This is a Mustang. If you want it to be any more than the name plate advertises, buy a different car. It makes me sick that the mustang has to please every potential sports coupe buyer. I remember getting excited in the early 90's because you could order a stripped down 5.0 stang with little to no options. Now we want the same car to provide a spa treatment with every drive and infect us with a European accent. That's just how some of us are built.

 

"Why don't you buy a fusion?" to a mustang driver. You might as well have called his mother a *****! It was clearly an attack on his masculinity. Basically, it's saying, if you want this kind of electronic helper you don't deserve this manly a car. Perhaps even less kind would have been Prius, Fiat Abarth or a 6 cylinder Camaro.

 

Making more friends?

 

Geez Eric - you really like taking things to an extreme. Had nothing to do with masculinity or orientation. Had to do with getting a tame city bred car rather than turning a hotrod Mustang into something most of us don't want.

Sort of like tpms. A few lazy dweebs that were too dumb to check their tires put this crap on the rest of us.

Again if he wants an automatic driving experience, buy an auto. Don't wreck our manny tranny experience.

 

By the thousands.

I see you crawled out from your Connecticut rock. Why have you been hiding?