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Old Dec 17, 2014 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by JeffreyDJ
On the 2015's it actually doesn't say to change every 3K miles. It says to change it when the Intelligent Oil Life Monitor tells you too, which can be between 3K (for towing) and 10K miles (normal driving)
Wow ! it's really amazing how rapid technology has changed
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Old Dec 17, 2014 | 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by cdynaco
Many feel better about changing the factory oil within the first 1000 miles in case of any particles from assembly. You know, bearing material, filings, gasket shavings, cigarette butts, beer tabs...

The filter should catch it but as a precaution you will read many change it out. I did at 700mi. on Bullitt and always have on a new engine before 1k hits the clock.
I follow the other tact, I keep the original fill in the car for 5K miles as recommended. If Ford does add a break in lubricant it is allowed to do what Ford intended, break in the engine. There are scores of people on these boards who changed oil under 1K miles and developed engine noises. I used to do as you described, but changed tactics, with no ill effects.

I do engines myself, (complete, bores, bearings etc) and have seen only clean oil first change. If the engine is assembled right there should be no debris in the oil.

My Boss engine went 5K on first change and is dead quiet.
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Old Dec 17, 2014 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by BOSS MAN 13
I follow the other tact, I keep the original fill in the car for 5K miles as recommended. If Ford does add a break in lubricant it is allowed to do what Ford intended, break in the engine. There are scores of people on these boards who changed oil under 1K miles and developed engine noises. I used to do as you described, but changed tactics, with no ill effects. I do engines myself, (complete, bores, bearings etc) and have seen only clean oil first change. If the engine is assembled right there should be no debris in the oil. My Boss engine went 5K on first change and is dead quiet.
This really makes a lot of sense. With the time and money put into these cars it wouldn't really make sense to NOT follow the owners manual. Especially how advanced cars are getting nowadays!
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Old Dec 17, 2014 | 09:37 AM
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So how many miles does it take to break in a new engine and has anybody seen any performance increase?
Originally Posted by Anthony k
My 15 was on the Dyno at 102 miles. And has been back to the dyno twice since then. It has 390 miles on it now. About 90-110 miles are dyno time.
Here is the info from the 2015 Mustang owner’s manual on page 188, guys:

BREAKING-IN
You need to break in new tires for
approximately 300 miles (480
kilometers). During this time, your vehicle
may exhibit some unusual driving
characteristics.
Avoid driving too fast during the first 1000
miles (1600 kilometers). Vary your speed
frequently and change up through the
gears early. Do not labor the engine.
Do not tow during the first 1000 miles
(1600 kilometers).


I hope this helps.

Deysha
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Old Dec 17, 2014 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by FordService
Here is the info from the 2015 Mustang owner’s manual on page 188, guys:

BREAKING-IN
You need to break in new tires for
approximately 300 miles (480
kilometers). During this time, your vehicle
may exhibit some unusual driving
characteristics.
Avoid driving too fast during the first 1000
miles (1600 kilometers). Vary your speed
frequently and change up through the
gears early. Do not labor the engine.
Do not tow during the first 1000 miles
(1600 kilometers).


I hope this helps.

Deysha
Thanks for the basic corporate response
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Old Dec 17, 2014 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by SONICBOOST
This really makes a lot of sense. With the time and money put into these cars it wouldn't really make sense to NOT follow the owners manual. Especially how advanced cars are getting nowadays!

Exactly, old tech doesn't hold up to advanced technology.

All my race motors went from Dyno to race track.

All my cars go from dealer to get tuned, then depending on season, to the track.

Never lost a rod bearing, had noise or lost a motor.

So we are to believe you follow the owners manual to the letter?

BS
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Old Dec 17, 2014 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Anthony k
Thanks for the basic corporate response
You're very welcome, Anthony k!

Deysha
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Old Dec 17, 2014 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
Wow ! it's really amazing how rapid technology has changed
Of course it is!
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Old Dec 17, 2014 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BOSS MAN 13

I follow the other tact, I keep the original fill in the car for 5K miles as recommended. If Ford does add a break in lubricant it is allowed to do what Ford intended, break in the engine. There are scores of people on these boards who changed oil under 1K miles and developed engine noises. I used to do as you described, but changed tactics, with no ill effects.

I do engines myself, (complete, bores, bearings etc) and have seen only clean oil first change. If the engine is assembled right there should be no debris in the oil.

My Boss engine went 5K on first change and is dead quiet.
Thought provoking. Your recommendation to do the first oil change at 5k, is that a Ford recommendation? I couldn't find it in either the 2014 or 2015 manual.

I have 4300 or so on my '14 and was originally planning to wait for the indicator.
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Old Dec 17, 2014 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by berzerk_1980
Thought provoking. Your recommendation to do the first oil change at 5k, is that a Ford recommendation? I couldn't find it in either the 2014 or 2015 manual.

I have 4300 or so on my '14 and was originally planning to wait for the indicator.
It isn't in the manual. What's in the manual is what exactly what I posted previously. Wait until the car tells you to change it. It's not going to hurt to change it more often, however.
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Old Dec 17, 2014 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Anthony k
Exactly, old tech doesn't hold up to advanced technology. All my race motors went from Dyno to race track. All my cars go from dealer to get tuned, then depending on season, to the track. Never lost a rod bearing, had noise or lost a motor. So we are to believe you follow the owners manual to the letter? BS
Anyone can say they do this or you can do that and then another recommends something else. I don't really care but I know when I get mine I will be following the owners manual! Maybe not to the letter after I put several thousand miles on her as I did my 05. Only minor issues I had with that car were from the mods I did to it.

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Old Dec 17, 2014 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffreyDJ
On the 2015's it actually doesn't say to change every 3K miles. It says to change it when the Intelligent Oil Life Monitor tells you too, which can be between 3K (for towing) and 10K miles (normal driving)
The 2013-14 says the same thing. No mileage recommendations, just OLM or 1year or 10,000 miles.

Originally Posted by cdynaco
For some strange reason on the 5.0, that's a common story. It uses oil at first - in some cases quite a lot. (several threads here - many ran 2 qts low because they foolishly did not check it) But after you finally run it good and hard and good and hot, it quits using oil.

Most info says rings are seated quickly within like 100 miles. But I don't know where the excessive oil usage on the 5.0 would come from if it isn't the rings. I don't know any reports on any engine that valve seals need "seating".

The 4.6L3V wasn't like that. The Manual says mix up the rpm range the first 1000 miles. I quickly worked up to redline (up and out) after the first 100 hundred miles and then played throughout the range - including decel. First oil change at 700 miles, no usage.

Now with 31k, only used 1/2 qt at 5600 miles (with oil sep).
Been curious about that myself. If the oil doesn't go past the rings, then where does it go? I have no separator. Could 1/2qt go past the vent tube?? It was startling to see no oil consumption in the first 3000 miles, and then when I got to the track within ~120 miles use that much. And then not a drop after that. I still think it must have been getting past the rings, till I got the engine real hot. 30 minutes of 4000-7000 rpm operation did the trick.

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