Another Mustang Crashed
11/12/14, 03:04 AM
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That's a total! What a jackass, probably some $8. an hour dealer wash bay lackey "testing" it out!
Takata "no fire" airbags too, I wonder if it fell off a truck?
Takata "no fire" airbags too, I wonder if it fell off a truck?
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11/12/14, 06:17 AM
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If the driver was wearing his (or her) seatbelt, I wouldn't expect the airbags to fire based on the damage. Those air bags need a pretty significant impact to fire these days. There's a lot of sophisticated algorithms that determine when and if to fire them. If they fire in too minor of a collision they can do more harm than good.
11/12/14, 08:18 AM
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If the driver was wearing his (or her) seatbelt, I wouldn't expect the airbags to fire based on the damage. Those air bags need a pretty significant impact to fire these days. There's a lot of sophisticated algorithms that determine when and if to fire them. If they fire in too minor of a collision they can do more harm than good.
Unless passive/active restraint technology has changed in just the last year or so, use of seatbelts (or lack of) should have no relationship to air bag deployment. Sensors will determine if a seat is occupied, not whether the belt was used. Seatbelt and airbag systems are independent of each other.
That said, this is an off-set frontal impact to the right side. Off-set collisions are the most common of frontal impacts. Had the passenger seat been occupied, the bag would have deployed since the rail and apron sustained a hard impact.
11/12/14, 09:45 AM
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Unless passive/active restraint technology has changed in just the last year or so, use of seatbelts (or lack of) should have no relationship to air bag deployment. Sensors will determine if a seat is occupied, not whether the belt was used. Seatbelt and airbag systems are independent of each other.
That said, this is an off-set frontal impact to the right side. Off-set collisions are the most common of frontal impacts. Had the passenger seat been occupied, the bag would have deployed since the rail and apron sustained a hard impact.
That said, this is an off-set frontal impact to the right side. Off-set collisions are the most common of frontal impacts. Had the passenger seat been occupied, the bag would have deployed since the rail and apron sustained a hard impact.
Here is an excerpt from the 2005 Ford Mustang manual. It's exactly the same, word for word, in the 2012 Explorer manual.
Front safety belt usage sensors
The front safety belt usage sensors detect whether or not the driver and
front outboard passenger safety belts are fastened. This information
allows your Personal Safety System to tailor the airbag deployment and
safety belt pretensioner activation depending upon safety belt usage.
11/12/14, 09:48 AM
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I would total it if I was the adjuster. It needs a complete bumper, front end sheet metal, rad support, radiation, possibly an apron and rail section, not to mention the all the sheet metal on the left side. That car has a lot of damage.
The claim will probably settle for almost all of what the ower paid, and it will bring in an excellent salvage return for the insurance company.
The claim will probably settle for almost all of what the ower paid, and it will bring in an excellent salvage return for the insurance company.
11/12/14, 10:02 AM
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It hasn't changed in the last year as far as I know, but seatbelt and airbag systems have not been independent for quite some time.
Here is an excerpt from the 2005 Ford Mustang manual. It's exactly the same, word for word, in the 2012 Explorer manual.
Front safety belt usage sensors
The front safety belt usage sensors detect whether or not the driver and
front outboard passenger safety belts are fastened. This information
allows your Personal Safety System to tailor the airbag deployment and
safety belt pretensioner activation depending upon safety belt usage.
Here is an excerpt from the 2005 Ford Mustang manual. It's exactly the same, word for word, in the 2012 Explorer manual.
Front safety belt usage sensors
The front safety belt usage sensors detect whether or not the driver and
front outboard passenger safety belts are fastened. This information
allows your Personal Safety System to tailor the airbag deployment and
safety belt pretensioner activation depending upon safety belt usage.
Air bags used to deploy at around 18mph regardless of seat belt usage. It sounds like in what you've described, the air bag might not deploy if the seatbelts aren't in use. That would sure make a case for using belts. There are still some idiot holdouts who don't use them. I see them on the road all the time.
I've inspected many cars where the air bags deployed without seat belt use. Back in the day, both bags would deploy even if the passenger seat wasn't occupied.
11/12/14, 10:04 AM
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