What are your opinions on buying the V6 or ecoboost? The output should be close to the same. I'm afraid the ecoboost motor is going to sound like a civic with a fart can.

 

Gee - why don't you start a 4th thread with the same comment...

 

. Wow! Do you wake in the morning planning to be an ******* or does it come naturally?

 

Thank you for making a new member feel welcome. I appreciate it so much. *******

 

I asked for advice. Not for you to be a *****.

 

You don't need three threads to answer one question

We also don't allow name calling either so welcome and consider yourself warned.

 

I will agree with you that he could have stated it better, but at the same time he is right. Just look around the threads and you should easily be able to find some useful info already started in threads.

 

I'll play.

I thought there have already been sound clips of it possibly.

ford wouldn't do that.

 

How can anyone really make a decision when the car isn't even released? No one knows what the specs of the 2.3L Ecoboost motor is going to be yet, nor the V6 just speculation and the few comments Ford has said.

That being said why the hell don't we have specs on this car yet??

Dave

 

No. I wait until the evening.

 

Thought this Thread would have got 'Locked', i was wrong

Any engine can be made to sound good or bad. I see a 2013 or 2014 5.0 in my town that sounds like 'popcorn popping' from time to time. I also see a 2013 or 2014 3.7 in my town that sounds like an old 'farm truck'. It all depends on your exhaust and what sound your looking for

 

Welcome to the zoo. Myself having a 3.7, V6 I'm partial to it. Ha ha ha. The 3.7 engines which will be in the 2015 are excellent. Solid engine that delivers performance and power all while getting 27 to 31 mpg. At this point its a total guess on what the 4 banger will sound like. I'm looking forward to hearing and seeing performance of it. It should kick some a$$.

 

Welcome to TMS.

Well, this is obviously a pre-production Ecoboost but, assuming things don't change too much, it sounds pretty good to me


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrNpFAj2Ic8

Given the lack of option packs for the V6, its clear Ford's intention is to push the 4-pot car. As a turbo, it should also prove pretty easy to mod for more power.

I wonder if the V6 will live to see the first S550 refresh, around the '18MY

 

I noticed everything the op has said on this forum was ether insulting members or the 2015 ecoboost, and has not been back, or participated in other threads, OR made himself a avatar, profile pic, or info. This has to be the worst trolling l I've seen!

 

Maybe he is from camaro5 or a 12 year old boy playing with his mothers computer

 

Personally I think Ford is making a mistake by making the V6 model the stripper package and restricting the option content in favor of pushing the ecoboost model. I'm not at all convinced that the take rate on the ecoboost is going to be what Ford is hoping it will be. I don't think the performance level of the ecoboost is going to be enough to really distinguish it from the V6 and a lot of would be buyers will decide its not worth the money. Ford is hoping the improved mpg of the ecoboost will lure customers into buying it but we have seen over the past few years that ecoboost motors aren't really getting substantially better mileage than the normally aspirated option and when pushed (as it would be in a Mustang) the mileage can get down right lousy. On a personal note I really don't like the front end of the 2015. The head lamp size is completely out of symmetry with the rest of the front end and it makes the car look like its squinting at you. I understand this is part of Ford's overall design language as seen on the Taurus and Fusion but on the Mustang it just doesn't work. The car looks great from every angle except the front end, where it really counts.

 

I appreciate everybody's opinions. I have been saving for three years to buy my new car in cash. I was interested in the Eco boost as this will be a daily driver but have heard the Eco boost engines make a nasty clicking noise. Not something I want to hear from a mustang engine. I know I will probably switch the exhaust to roush once available but was not sure if I should stay with the proven and tested v6 or give ford a chance on their new engine. I guess I will just have to wait until release as ford is not playing nice with us and giving us the info we need.

 

I think the car looks great from the front

 

Personally, I've driven a performance minded ecoboost in the Focus ST for almost two years before it was destroyed by a hail storm and I traded out of it plus my insurance check for my 2014 gt two weeks ago... And it was a great motor and has the capability to get great gas milage. That was the 2.0 liter, and the 2.3 might not be as good on gas, but it will be better than the v6 and trust me, the torque difference will be noticeable. My ST could probably pull most v6 mustangs out there, throw on 100 more hp and 400 more lbs, it will still be a much quicker and funner car.

I know I alienate those v6 owners out there, but I would have gotten the ecoboost WAYY before the v6, and obviously I'm not opposed to the v8

The worries of the ecoboost sounding funny surprises me, because it won't sound any worse than the v6. The st sounded nice in cabin with the sound symposer, and the exhaust wasn't bad with an upgrade to a 3" cat back. The 2.3 will sound that much better and have that much more power. It won't sound like a v8... But let's be honest, neither do the v6's... The clicking thing is annoying. I didn't like it in the ST and I wouldn't like it in a mustang either (one of the few complaints I had with the ST) that said, a 350 hp+ torquey motor with much improved fuel economy.... I can trade a little bit of sound for that. It's the perfect dd stang, and it will beat the hell out of it's competition. Obviously the v8 will be better, but if I were ordering the new stang, I'd have a hard time passing up the ecoboost. The power is just there instantly, and if you stay off it, you'll get 30+ mpg highway. Coming from a gt getting 17 mpg, that would be a welcome trade... Except when at wot... I wouldn't trade that for anything

 

All things being equal, I like the sound of engines with more cylinders better than those with fewer -- generally a richer, more melodious sound.

Multi cylinder motors also deliver a smoother torque pulse delivery, with greater overlap of the torque negative intake phase to the torque positive power phase of a four stroke motor. Four bangers have very high positive to negative torque digressions per revolution whereas a V12 has a nearly smooth fully positive torque curve, hence the turbine and hydraulic references used to describe them.

There is also basic rotational smoothness. I4s tend to have a pretty nasty, coarse and sharp secondary imbalance that gets pretty bad with both revs and size unless balance shafts are lashed on to quell them. 60- degree V6s are much better though the upper 3-liter range seems to be the max before they start feeling a bit gritty at higher revs. I6s have perfect balance at any size or revs. Bent crank V8s have at worst a soft and gentle rocking imbalance though at the cost of rather heavy counterweighted cranks, making for somewhat heavier motors with more sluggish throttle response.

There might also be an argument to be made regarding the power characteristics, apart from actual power numbers, that might favor the snappier, more even and predictable, response of a naturally aspirated motor. Sure, turbo motors can be squeezed to deliver hero numbers, but often the qualitative experience can suffer.

All this said, the OP does introduce some valid questions and thoughts: what about treating the excellent 3.7 V6 as an equally valid performance .motor as the Egoboost four banger (option wise) rather than just a cheap cost leader. Tune it like an E46 M3 and you'd have a screaming, snappy 380+ HP.

Of course there are emissions and economy standards to meet, so that's likely forcing Ford's hand in going the increasingly ubiquitous blown four banger route, banishing the 3.7 V6 to a slow demise.

I do wonder if an Egoboost V6 will eventually find place higher in the Stang lineup, perhaps as a base GT motor, or as an "ST" motor essentially supplanting the base V8 GT while V8 GTs will become ever more premium, expensive and rare components of the Stang lineup.