So i.was doing some "spirited" driving and i had AT off and the back began to step out which i expected and was ready for but.. the nannies came to my rescue. is there no true esc off?

 

There are several functions of the ECS and TCS and they can be changed quite quickly.

1. Push the button once and you loose ESC and keep TCS.

2. Apply brakes and hit button twice you enter Sport mode - both ESC and TCS are still on but in a reduced manner.

3. Brakes on, no throttle and hold button down for more than 5 seconds - BOTH ECS and TCS are turned OFF and your along for the ride

In any mode hit the TCS button once and all come back on or just turn off and restart the car.

 

The TCS and ESC are only truly defeatable with the Brembo package, from what I understand.

 

this is pretty close except one push takes off traction control and leaves stability control.

There is a full description of the functions in the manual

 

"your on your own" lol

 

xlover - Yeah coffee hadn't started to work just yet thanks for the correction

hawkeye - I also believe from what I have read and been told that only the Brembo package is capable of turning everything OFF.

 

I thought it was the sport mode that was brembo excessive, maybe I'm wrong

 

My car is a GT/CS, not a Brembo.....it has the full capability of turning the entire option off, plus the sport mode.

 

sport mode and full off are available on any GT premium. mine is a 2010 and i have turned it full off and put it in sport mode.

The sport mode on brembo cars is a different calibration

 

IIRC you have to press and hold the AdvanceTrac button for like 3 seconds to turn everything off.

 

Ah ok thanks. Ill remember that next time and "youre on your own."

 

Hahaha "you're on your own" that's great.

When I make U-turns I usually give it a little gas abs go a little sideways and I usually only push the button once. So ECS is on. Goes a little sideways for some fun but I noticed if I lay into it good I can't stay sideways "smoothly" so tp speak. Like I feel I'm "losing control" like I'm fighting something for control.

I never knew about the other options so maybe I am actually fighting the ECS. Cause I wind up fighting as the Car starts going left and right(kind like over steering)

 

I have found that no matter what the setting, it is possible to over power the nannys with extreme use of the right pedal.

 

 

Yup, thats what happened, back end stepped out which is what i wanted but then felt like the power was cut.

 

If, as mentioned above, you come to a complete stop, hold the brake pedal down and push and hold the button for about 7 seconds, you will see "AdvancedTrac Off" in the info center. ALL controls are turned off at that point. NOTHING will step in to "help" you.

I've been out screwing around in the rain and completely lost it, sliding through five 360's in a large parking lot with absolutely no control what-so-ever. On dry pavement, I can get completely sideways with minimal throttle modulation to keep it there.

Once you see AdvancedTrac off in the info center, it's like driving my '70 Nova SS. You better know what you're doing or you can powerslide your a$$ right off the road.