'10-14 Exterior Modifications Place to discuss all 2010-2014 exterior modifications

2015 Mustang GT wheels fits 2013 GT w/Brembos?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 3/30/16 | 02:41 PM
  #1  
JonsMustang's Avatar
Thread Starter
Bullitt Member
 
Joined: August 4, 2015
Posts: 222
Likes: 5
From: Chicago
2015 Mustang GT wheels fits 2013 GT w/Brembos?

Anyone know if the 2015 Mustang GT wheels fits 2013 GT w/Brembos? Will the TPMS work?

Thanks in advance!
Old 3/30/16 | 02:49 PM
  #2  
mfc133's Avatar
Bullitt Member
 
Joined: July 27, 2012
Posts: 304
Likes: 6
From: Perkasie, PA
There's probably brake clearance issues, and the TPMS is different on the 2015s. Here's some info
The following users liked this post:
JonsMustang (3/31/16)
Old 3/30/16 | 03:13 PM
  #3  
laserred38's Avatar
Legacy TMS Member
 
Joined: January 6, 2006
Posts: 14,047
Likes: 166
From: Bay Area, CA
Depends on the wheels. The Performance Package wheels fit, don't know about the others.
The following users liked this post:
JonsMustang (3/31/16)
Old 4/3/16 | 01:51 PM
  #4  
Bert's Avatar
Legacy TMS Member
 
Joined: January 25, 2010
Posts: 3,875
Likes: 1,598
From: Massachusetts
From what I have read in other threads, there are some issues between the 2015+ wheels and 2014- cars:

- different lug nut thread; means you need to use old lug nuts with the new wheels
- different lug taper?
- center bore is larger on 2015+ wheels. So they will go on, but they won't hub center (lug centering is OK if you torque them evenly / carefully)
- slightly different offsets
- TPMS sensors not compatible; need to change the sensors or TPMS will give error warning

So overall, if it was my money, I would keep looking for some 2014- wheels instead.
The following users liked this post:
JonsMustang (4/4/16)
Old 4/4/16 | 07:30 AM
  #5  
JonsMustang's Avatar
Thread Starter
Bullitt Member
 
Joined: August 4, 2015
Posts: 222
Likes: 5
From: Chicago
Thanks all!!
Old 4/5/16 | 12:08 AM
  #6  
Moustang's Avatar
Mach 1 Member
 
Joined: January 12, 2012
Posts: 1,041
Likes: 13
From: Suburbs of Dallas
Originally Posted by Bert
- TPMS sensors not compatible; need to change the sensors or TPMS will give error warning
Has anyone actually tried to train the 2015 sensors to the 2010-2014 Mustangs, or are they just assuming that since there was a physical change in size and weight that it's not compatible? Because I know for a fact that you can train the 2010-2014 sensors to the 2015 Mustangs and they are totally compatible. I don't see any reason to think that compatibility would only work one way.
Old 4/5/16 | 09:24 AM
  #7  
Bert's Avatar
Legacy TMS Member
 
Joined: January 25, 2010
Posts: 3,875
Likes: 1,598
From: Massachusetts
I am really not sure, just repeating what I have read posted by others.

This morning I saw a new post that said that they do work.
Old 4/5/16 | 09:32 AM
  #8  
Moustang's Avatar
Mach 1 Member
 
Joined: January 12, 2012
Posts: 1,041
Likes: 13
From: Suburbs of Dallas
Well, I happen to have a set of 2016 GT wheels that aren't being used. This weekend I'll try putting them on my 2012 V6 and see if I can get the sensors trained to the car. I've got 18X9 wheels on it now, but I was considering putting dedicated summer tires on those wheels and using the GT wheels to put a set of all weather tires for use in the winter. May as well test that out now before spending the money on new tires.

I'm fairly certain they will work. Like I said, I know for a fact that the sensors off a 2014 work on a 2015 and sends the car the correct tire pressure which means they're using the same frequency and sending data in the same format. If that communications link works one way it should work the other as well. But, as they say, you never really know until you try. I'll try it out this weekend and post whether it worked or not.
Old 4/9/16 | 05:39 PM
  #9  
Moustang's Avatar
Mach 1 Member
 
Joined: January 12, 2012
Posts: 1,041
Likes: 13
From: Suburbs of Dallas
Well, I promised I would test it and I did.

I installed two of the 2016 GT wheels on to my 2012 Mustang. I had aftermarket lug nuts (for my aftermarket rims) which fit the new wheels quite well. Everything went on without a hitch but I cannot train the TPMS sensors to the car. Went through the routine three times and it failed all three times. (I was able to retrain the existing wheels I had on the car with their TPMS sensors, so I know the training tool works)

So, while the wheels seem to fit just fine (No different from the aftermarket wheels I had on it), you will need to swap out the TPMS sensors in the wheels to get rid of the warning light on the dash. Not sure why the 2015-2016 Mustangs are backwards compatible with the old sensors, but that compatibility does not work the other way.

Last edited by Moustang; 4/9/16 at 05:44 PM.
The following users liked this post:
lsxjunkie (4/9/16)
Old 4/9/16 | 07:45 PM
  #10  
lsxjunkie's Avatar
Bullitt Member
 
Joined: February 25, 2013
Posts: 394
Likes: 2
Which 2016 wheels did you test fit?
Old 4/10/16 | 02:54 AM
  #11  
Moustang's Avatar
Mach 1 Member
 
Joined: January 12, 2012
Posts: 1,041
Likes: 13
From: Suburbs of Dallas
18X8

Name:  mst16_models_detailflip_18magneticgloss.jpg
Views: 9822
Size:  20.8 KB


But I may have screwed up. The wheels I have do not have tires mounted on them yet. I didn't think about it at the time, but the sensors would not have been active when I tried to train them and since I had no way to drive the car on them I couldn't get them to activate. I've got a friend who said he'll let me borrow his (He has summer tires and all weather tires for his car) tomorrow so I can put them on the car, drive it, and once I'm sure the sensors are active try to train them. Depending on the weather that will either be late Sunday afternoon or early Monday morning, so I'll give it another shot and report back again once it's done.
Old 4/10/16 | 03:07 AM
  #12  
jp1seattle's Avatar
GT Member
 
Joined: October 15, 2012
Posts: 190
Likes: 2
From: Seattle
Originally Posted by Moustang
18X8 But I may have screwed up. The wheels I have do not have tires mounted on them yet. I didn't think about it at the time, but the sensors would not have been active when I tried to train them and since I had no way to drive the car on them I couldn't get them to activate. I've got a friend who said he'll let me borrow his (He has summer tires and all weather tires for his car) tomorrow so I can put them on the car, drive it, and once I'm sure the sensors are active try to train them. Depending on the weather that will either be late Sunday afternoon or early Monday morning, so I'll give it another shot and report back again once it's done.
Ha. Nice.

As far as I know, the new ford sensors and maybe even older ones are all self learning. I bought a set off eBay and never had to do a thing......just pulled off the old wheels and out the new ones on. No low pressure light.

But yeah, obviously they'll need to have tires mounted and inflated to at least 20psi.

Last edited by jp1seattle; 4/10/16 at 03:10 AM.
Old 4/10/16 | 03:57 AM
  #13  
Moustang's Avatar
Mach 1 Member
 
Joined: January 12, 2012
Posts: 1,041
Likes: 13
From: Suburbs of Dallas
They're supposed to be self learning and they just might work without training once I drive it, but they don't always learn when it's entirely new sensors on the car. The ones installed with my aftermarket wheels didn't self learn which is why I have the training tool at home. They never gave a low pressure light, they gave a "Tire Pressure Monitor Fault" message until they were trained.

Either way, I'll know for sure no later than Monday morning and let everyone here know the results.


EDIT:

I've also heard that you can trigger the sensors by letting air out of the tires until they're down around 20psi. I may try that as well if they don't self-train and the training tool doesn't work. Lucky me, I have a 60 gallon air compressor in my garage.

Last edited by Moustang; 4/10/16 at 04:01 AM.
Old 4/11/16 | 07:56 AM
  #14  
Moustang's Avatar
Mach 1 Member
 
Joined: January 12, 2012
Posts: 1,041
Likes: 13
From: Suburbs of Dallas
Well, I've tested everything except letting air out of the tires and it's a no-go. Cannot get 2016 tire sensors to be detected by the car. I get about 10 miles worth of driving and then get a Tire Pressure Monitor Fault message on the dash and the TPMS light comes on. Drove it 20 miles and tried to train the sensors to the car and nothing worked.

So, depending on the weather, when I get home I'll let some air out of the tires and see what happens. But at this point I'm pretty convinced that you'll need to change out the sensors to use S550 wheels on an S197 car if you're not wanting to look at the little yellow light on the dash all of the time.
Old 4/27/16 | 11:26 AM
  #15  
emba129's Avatar
V6 Member
 
Joined: February 20, 2004
Posts: 75
Likes: 0
Does it work the other way? Will your 2012 wheel fit on your 2016? Bigger lug studs 14mm vs 12.7mm
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
TMS Editor
General Vehicle Discussion/News
8
7/26/16 04:01 AM
ibramson
Introductions
11
3/9/16 12:36 PM
RMS70
2010-2014 Mustang
9
3/6/16 11:58 PM
RMS70
2010-2014 Mustang
9
2/19/16 04:03 PM




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:17 PM.