2015 Mustang GT wheels fits 2013 GT w/Brembos?
#2
There's probably brake clearance issues, and the TPMS is different on the 2015s. Here's some info
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JonsMustang (3/31/16)
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#4
From what I have read in other threads, there are some issues between the 2015+ wheels and 2014- cars:
- different lug nut thread; means you need to use old lug nuts with the new wheels
- different lug taper?
- center bore is larger on 2015+ wheels. So they will go on, but they won't hub center (lug centering is OK if you torque them evenly / carefully)
- slightly different offsets
- TPMS sensors not compatible; need to change the sensors or TPMS will give error warning
So overall, if it was my money, I would keep looking for some 2014- wheels instead.
- different lug nut thread; means you need to use old lug nuts with the new wheels
- different lug taper?
- center bore is larger on 2015+ wheels. So they will go on, but they won't hub center (lug centering is OK if you torque them evenly / carefully)
- slightly different offsets
- TPMS sensors not compatible; need to change the sensors or TPMS will give error warning
So overall, if it was my money, I would keep looking for some 2014- wheels instead.
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JonsMustang (4/4/16)
#6
Has anyone actually tried to train the 2015 sensors to the 2010-2014 Mustangs, or are they just assuming that since there was a physical change in size and weight that it's not compatible? Because I know for a fact that you can train the 2010-2014 sensors to the 2015 Mustangs and they are totally compatible. I don't see any reason to think that compatibility would only work one way.
#8
Well, I happen to have a set of 2016 GT wheels that aren't being used. This weekend I'll try putting them on my 2012 V6 and see if I can get the sensors trained to the car. I've got 18X9 wheels on it now, but I was considering putting dedicated summer tires on those wheels and using the GT wheels to put a set of all weather tires for use in the winter. May as well test that out now before spending the money on new tires.
I'm fairly certain they will work. Like I said, I know for a fact that the sensors off a 2014 work on a 2015 and sends the car the correct tire pressure which means they're using the same frequency and sending data in the same format. If that communications link works one way it should work the other as well. But, as they say, you never really know until you try. I'll try it out this weekend and post whether it worked or not.
I'm fairly certain they will work. Like I said, I know for a fact that the sensors off a 2014 work on a 2015 and sends the car the correct tire pressure which means they're using the same frequency and sending data in the same format. If that communications link works one way it should work the other as well. But, as they say, you never really know until you try. I'll try it out this weekend and post whether it worked or not.
#9
Well, I promised I would test it and I did.
I installed two of the 2016 GT wheels on to my 2012 Mustang. I had aftermarket lug nuts (for my aftermarket rims) which fit the new wheels quite well. Everything went on without a hitch but I cannot train the TPMS sensors to the car. Went through the routine three times and it failed all three times. (I was able to retrain the existing wheels I had on the car with their TPMS sensors, so I know the training tool works)
So, while the wheels seem to fit just fine (No different from the aftermarket wheels I had on it), you will need to swap out the TPMS sensors in the wheels to get rid of the warning light on the dash. Not sure why the 2015-2016 Mustangs are backwards compatible with the old sensors, but that compatibility does not work the other way.
I installed two of the 2016 GT wheels on to my 2012 Mustang. I had aftermarket lug nuts (for my aftermarket rims) which fit the new wheels quite well. Everything went on without a hitch but I cannot train the TPMS sensors to the car. Went through the routine three times and it failed all three times. (I was able to retrain the existing wheels I had on the car with their TPMS sensors, so I know the training tool works)
So, while the wheels seem to fit just fine (No different from the aftermarket wheels I had on it), you will need to swap out the TPMS sensors in the wheels to get rid of the warning light on the dash. Not sure why the 2015-2016 Mustangs are backwards compatible with the old sensors, but that compatibility does not work the other way.
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But I may have screwed up. The wheels I have do not have tires mounted on them yet. I didn't think about it at the time, but the sensors would not have been active when I tried to train them and since I had no way to drive the car on them I couldn't get them to activate. I've got a friend who said he'll let me borrow his (He has summer tires and all weather tires for his car) tomorrow so I can put them on the car, drive it, and once I'm sure the sensors are active try to train them. Depending on the weather that will either be late Sunday afternoon or early Monday morning, so I'll give it another shot and report back again once it's done.
But I may have screwed up. The wheels I have do not have tires mounted on them yet. I didn't think about it at the time, but the sensors would not have been active when I tried to train them and since I had no way to drive the car on them I couldn't get them to activate. I've got a friend who said he'll let me borrow his (He has summer tires and all weather tires for his car) tomorrow so I can put them on the car, drive it, and once I'm sure the sensors are active try to train them. Depending on the weather that will either be late Sunday afternoon or early Monday morning, so I'll give it another shot and report back again once it's done.
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18X8 But I may have screwed up. The wheels I have do not have tires mounted on them yet. I didn't think about it at the time, but the sensors would not have been active when I tried to train them and since I had no way to drive the car on them I couldn't get them to activate. I've got a friend who said he'll let me borrow his (He has summer tires and all weather tires for his car) tomorrow so I can put them on the car, drive it, and once I'm sure the sensors are active try to train them. Depending on the weather that will either be late Sunday afternoon or early Monday morning, so I'll give it another shot and report back again once it's done.
As far as I know, the new ford sensors and maybe even older ones are all self learning. I bought a set off eBay and never had to do a thing......just pulled off the old wheels and out the new ones on. No low pressure light.
But yeah, obviously they'll need to have tires mounted and inflated to at least 20psi.
Last edited by jp1seattle; 4/10/16 at 03:10 AM.
#13
They're supposed to be self learning and they just might work without training once I drive it, but they don't always learn when it's entirely new sensors on the car. The ones installed with my aftermarket wheels didn't self learn which is why I have the training tool at home. They never gave a low pressure light, they gave a "Tire Pressure Monitor Fault" message until they were trained.
Either way, I'll know for sure no later than Monday morning and let everyone here know the results.
EDIT:
I've also heard that you can trigger the sensors by letting air out of the tires until they're down around 20psi. I may try that as well if they don't self-train and the training tool doesn't work. Lucky me, I have a 60 gallon air compressor in my garage.
Either way, I'll know for sure no later than Monday morning and let everyone here know the results.
EDIT:
I've also heard that you can trigger the sensors by letting air out of the tires until they're down around 20psi. I may try that as well if they don't self-train and the training tool doesn't work. Lucky me, I have a 60 gallon air compressor in my garage.
Last edited by Moustang; 4/10/16 at 04:01 AM.
#14
Well, I've tested everything except letting air out of the tires and it's a no-go. Cannot get 2016 tire sensors to be detected by the car. I get about 10 miles worth of driving and then get a Tire Pressure Monitor Fault message on the dash and the TPMS light comes on. Drove it 20 miles and tried to train the sensors to the car and nothing worked.
So, depending on the weather, when I get home I'll let some air out of the tires and see what happens. But at this point I'm pretty convinced that you'll need to change out the sensors to use S550 wheels on an S197 car if you're not wanting to look at the little yellow light on the dash all of the time.
So, depending on the weather, when I get home I'll let some air out of the tires and see what happens. But at this point I'm pretty convinced that you'll need to change out the sensors to use S550 wheels on an S197 car if you're not wanting to look at the little yellow light on the dash all of the time.
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