Here is what I found , if it's a repost I'm sorry;

http://www.lethalperformance.com/201...-tuned-p-34686

25rwhp on 93 is not bad, cant wait to see with a full exhaust and cia. (cia.....haha yeah right CAI)

 

That's cool, I'm waiting to see how much a tune + CAI combo will cost.

 

Nice, the V6 is no slouch

 

Nice gains but did the go from 87 octane stock to 93 octane with the tune? You'll probably get half of that gain just by changing octane if that's the case.

 

Have they published a dyno graph?

 

His link explains that 25rwhp is for the 93 tune. Even so 25rwhp is great gain 30hp flywheel.

335hp V6 Mustang is mighty impressive. And thats before any bolts ons. headers and intake you might see a 300rwhp V6 mustang. Incredible since it takes pretty much every bolt on plus cams to get a 4.6 2v to 300rwhp.

 

Nice so let me get this straight I know the 5.0 is rated 412hp with premium and less on regular, but I can't seem to get a straight answer in regards to if I run premium in my 3.7 it will increase the hp so will it? If so I might give it a try just to see if I can feel it in the butt dyno
I wonder if a full 2.5" mandrel bent dual exhaust/full intake&tune 3.7 broken in running 93 octane will hit 300whp?

 

Knight, copy on the 93 octane tune but I wanted to ask if he did the baseline stock dyno with 87 octane. A stock Mustang V6 would probably pick up 10+ HP going from 87 to 93 octane.

 

Ok i understand, you are wanting to know if the baseline was normal tune 87 or normal tune 93.

I'm sure he wants to market the best gain so i would have to say it was 87 normal to 93 with a tune.

Does the V6 even have adaptive knock sensors? I would guess no since its designed to run on 87 and does its rated hp with 87.

But even if it does, usually a system like this works by sensing knock from the lower octanes and backing out the timing to adjust for 87.

Not saying its impossible, but it would seem in order to get power gain from 93 the car would have to be set for it first and then backing down to 87 and getting 305hp. Not sure how the system would up the timing if neither 87 or 93 would knock in this case. Again this is just going off th limited knowledge i have of the system.

 

I remember when the 350Z first came out, the aftermarket started fab work, and the first aftermarket exhaust on the car actually brought the power numbers DOWN!

It will take time for these tuners to understand this car.

Might even be better left to the guys that tune the Z/G, 300ZX, Supra, maybe even the Euro's. Who knows?!

 

I thought the V-6 had all of the same stuff as the V-8 (knock sensors) so I would expect the V-6 to improve with a higher octane.

 

According to this the V-6 has knock sensors:

http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...v6_engine.html

 

Come on tuner shops dont forget the V6, give us some feed back!!!!

 

Yes the V6 has the knock sensors, but it does not have the adaptive tune like the 5.0.

 

Well hopefully there will be a flash tuner that can fix this rather than just focusing on "one octane per program file" like they have in the past.

This is a 10.5:1 compression engine so it could take full advantage of better octane just like the 5.0L so I'd much rather have an adaptive "performance" and "mileage" tunes to pick from.

Doug

 

I'm surprised by that. I would have thought that with all the changes they made to this engine, adaptive tune would have been a natural.

 

According to the article linked above, the V6 does have adaptive-knock spark control.
See relevant quotes from article below:

Ford also worked outside the engine to make the package a better fit for the Mustang. The powertrain ECU has been upgraded with a very aggressive deceleration cylinder shutoff for fuel economy, coupled with very rapid tip-in for street performance. On the flip side, the ECU has been reprogrammed with adaptive-knock spark control. If the two knock sensors embedded in the cylinder block don't hear knocking, the ECU will keep advancing the spark until it does.


What this means in performance terms is that, if the owner uses premium or race gas on weekends, the engine should make considerably more power and torque than the numbers quoted here, which are the product of standard SAE dynamometer laboratory testing procedures and not real-world driving.

 

The car already has a 2.5" exhaust system, so there will not be any additional gain with aftermarket pipes. Maybe a few extra ponies with different mufflers.

 

^thats actually not accurate as the stock 2011 3.7 v6 exhaust is only 2.25" and the drivers side mid pipe is severely crushed/flattened for the length of the pipe from the factory x until it goes up over the rear axle. I guess for ground clearance as it hangs down more than the pass side?