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Mustang 3.5L Ecoboost engine swap

Old Dec 7, 2015 | 09:46 PM
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Well, we will find ways ... I will text you later...

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Thanks for coming over Sunday night and working on the wiring! Sorry I spelled your username wrong
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Old Dec 7, 2015 | 09:48 PM
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I cut and buffed the hood and fenders I painted, turned out pretty decent for a basement paint job! It will still require a fine polish but so far so good.
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Old Dec 7, 2015 | 09:49 PM
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Old Dec 7, 2015 | 09:59 PM
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I bought paint to match rocker panel covers to replace the textured ones. Got them painted and installed.
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Old Dec 7, 2015 | 10:17 PM
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I was just looking for this thread...any IRS swap updates?
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Old Dec 7, 2015 | 10:53 PM
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I was just looking for this thread...any IRS swap updates?
I'm not going to start that until the car is running and driving, don't want to have too many major projects going on at one time.
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Old Dec 8, 2015 | 06:14 AM
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Looking good!
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Old Dec 8, 2015 | 07:34 AM
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This project has interested me from the start, since I have wondered why Ford hasn't dropped the 3.5 Ecoboost in the Mustang already. I'm also wondering if anyone makes turbo chargers for the current V-6, and if it would be as involved as an engine swap.
I think your doing what Ford should have done with the 2015/16 Mustang instead of the 2.0 Ecoboost. I'd really like to see how this turns out and how it performs.
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Old Dec 8, 2015 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 13GetThere
This project has interested me from the start, since I have wondered why Ford hasn't dropped the 3.5 Ecoboost in the Mustang already. I'm also wondering if anyone makes turbo chargers for the current V-6, and if it would be as involved as an engine swap.
I think your doing what Ford should have done with the 2015/16 Mustang instead of the 2.0 Ecoboost. I'd really like to see how this turns out and how it performs.
I think ford doesn't offer the 3.5 in the mustang because it's too close to the performance of the 5.0. I also think that since they are using the ecoboost in the Ford GT you won't see it in a mustang for a while....unless they use it in the gt500 when it comes back out.

The 3.7 V6 in the current is the same block as the 3.5 ecoboost, if you swapped the heads you can use the exhaust manifolds which have the turbos bolted to them. You have to swap the heads because I've read that the manifolds will not bolt up to the 3.7 heads. From what I understand the ecoboost heads will bolt right up though. The downside is that you don't get the forged internals that come with the ecoboost so your HP would be limited to what the 3.7 crank and rods can handle. If you swap the heads and add an ecoboost control pack you could use the direct injection, the high pressure fuel pump is mounted to the head. This wouldn't be necessary though, I would stick with the factory MPI just for simplicity.
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Old Dec 8, 2015 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 13GetThere
This project has interested me from the start, since I have wondered why Ford hasn't dropped the 3.5 Ecoboost in the Mustang already. I'm also wondering if anyone makes turbo chargers for the current V-6, and if it would be as involved as an engine swap.
I think your doing what Ford should have done with the 2015/16 Mustang instead of the 2.0 Ecoboost. I'd really like to see how this turns out and how it performs.
My guess is that they will put the 2.7 Ecoboost in the Mustang between the 2.0EB and the 5.0. Maybe a better fit as it can sit right in between HP wise.
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Old Dec 8, 2015 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by LEXiiON
My guess is that they will put the 2.7 Ecoboost in the Mustang between the 2.0EB and the 5.0. Maybe a better fit as it can sit right in between HP wise.
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Then take the 2.0T down market a bit, and the 5.0 upmarket a bit? As in, exactly what Chevy did with the new Camaro?
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Old Dec 8, 2015 | 12:18 PM
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Does your car have a black roof?
Or is it glass?

Paint job isnt bad for an inhouse spray.

If everything goes as planned thell only be seeing the back of your car anyway..Lol
Whats your guess on time before you fire it up??
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Old Dec 8, 2015 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by boss man
Does your car have a black roof?
Or is it glass?

Paint job isnt bad for an inhouse spray.

If everything goes as planned thell only be seeing the back of your car anyway..Lol
Whats your guess on time before you fire it up??
It has a glass roof, which I'm pretty stoked about. Lexiion and I both have nearly 2 weeks off at the end if this month so I would think some significant progress will be made then. I'm hoping we get it started during this time.
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Old Dec 8, 2015 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by LEXiiON
My guess is that they will put the 2.7 Ecoboost in the Mustang between the 2.0EB and the 5.0. Maybe a better fit as it can sit right in between HP wise.
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Then take the 2.0T down market a bit, and the 5.0 upmarket a bit? As in, exactly what Chevy did with the new Camaro?
The Mustang's EcoBoost 4-cyl is a 2.3, not a 2.0, and it's rated at 310 hp.
The 2.7 V6 EcoBoost is rated at 325 hp, so not much of an upgrade, at least in most people's eyes.

I can see a 350-hp version of it being introduced soon, but not in the Mustang, at least not for another few years.
MPG-wise it really wouldn't do much better than a DI Coyote, especially if the Mustang will finally get some weight reduction soon, like aluminum body or whatever.
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Old Dec 9, 2015 | 01:06 AM
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I need a new windshield since the original was cracked in the accident, the corner of the hood was shoved back in to the glass. I was thinking of going with lexan to save some weight but will cost me approx $500 more than a glass windshield once it's installed. I haven't found what the weight savings for this swap so I don't think it's going to be worth it. If it's 10 lbs it's probably not worth it, if it's 20 lbs I would think about it. Ill email this company to get the weight of the polycarbonate windshield.

http://www.opticarmorwindows.com/drop-in-black-outs.asp
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Old Dec 9, 2015 | 05:07 AM
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Would a lexan windshield be legal for a street car?

Windshields a lot of the times have to hold in an airbag as it's opening, especially on the passenger side, so they have to meet certain standards, besides just being able to see through it
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Old Dec 9, 2015 | 06:22 AM
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Lexan scratches easily.
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Old Dec 9, 2015 | 10:07 AM
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Would a lexan windshield be legal for a street car?

Windshields a lot of the times have to hold in an airbag as it's opening, especially on the passenger side, so they have to meet certain standards, besides just being able to see through it
Yes it should be street legal. It's safer than glass, it's nearly shatter proof and stronger than glass. It uses the same adhesive as the glass windshield.

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Lexan scratches easily.
Not the lexan I sent the link for, it's got a special coating inside and out that prevents scratching. At their sema display they had the windshield wipers on with steel wool under each wiper. No scratches. It's about $200 more than a standard lexan windshield.
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Old Dec 9, 2015 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Gabe
The Mustang's EcoBoost 4-cyl is a 2.3, not a 2.0, and it's rated at 310 hp.
The 2.7 V6 EcoBoost is rated at 325 hp, so not much of an upgrade, at least in most people's eyes.

I can see a 350-hp version of it being introduced soon, but not in the Mustang, at least not for another few years.
MPG-wise it really wouldn't do much better than a DI Coyote, especially if the Mustang will finally get some weight reduction soon, like aluminum body or whatever.
I know the current EcoBoost is a 2.3 - I was acknowledging that if Ford did decide to put the 2.7TT in the Mustang, they'd most likely take the EB car downmarket, instead of keeping it in the middle like it is now. Start with a 2.0T car in the 270hp range, 350hp V6 car and then 450hp V8 GT with more standard features, like Chevy did with the SS.
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Old Dec 9, 2015 | 06:02 PM
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This is what I got back from optic armor....

A 3/16 windshield weighs 12lbs and a 1/4 weighs 14lbs. The factory windshield weighs 29lbs. The biggest reason for choosing 1/4 over 3/16 is the mph rating. If the car sees over 150mph it is recommended to run 1/4. Factory glass thickness is 3/16"
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