Yeah - so was I. Here's something for you to chew on while you're thinking about it.

V6-to-Coyote Swap Info - an Independent Study

 

Don't the 2011+ V6 share the same Manual Trans as the GT?

 

Well, you would think so, but Tousley Ford specifies a motor size. The transmission costs the same for each car, but when they specify the motor, I HAVE to assume it's different unless someone can tell me (with authority) that they are indeed the same.

If they are indeed the same, then someone swapping just the motor has saved themselves a couple grand. In my case, I have an automatic, and WANT a manual (if I ws going to do this swap). Further, I wouldn't mess with the MT82 when I can have something much better in the form of a Tremec T56 for an additional $1000.

 

Or you could just buy a 5.0?!

 

makes to much sense

 

Yeah, you could, but that wasn't the point of the exercise. Several people had asked what they need to do to swap a Coyote motor into a V6 car, and my analysis pretty much answers the question. It considers Most (if not all) associated systems int he car, and even goes so far as to provide prices for those systems. In the end, it's gonna run close to $18k *IF* you don't start with a donor car and have an unnatural dislike of salvage yards. Anything beyond OEM is something *I* would do since the powertrain is already out of the car, and some of those aftermarket items address the known weak points of that Coyote powertrain. NOT improving the parts that are obviously weak points is beyond stupid when you're spending this much money, but hey, I understand that some people insist on spending as little as possible.

In my own case, my car is almost paid off (expecting final payment to be made next month - exactly 1 year after purchase), and my wife just got a 2011 Explorer. We have a self-imposed one car loan at a time debt limit. I also have $14k tied up in my V6 beyond the cost of the car, and I'm not willing to give up the car simply because it doesn't have a V8 (and as a trade-in prospect, well, you know). Since I don't want a supercharger or turbo on my V6, the only real way to gain significant horsepower is to swap motors.

I have to be honest, I'm not surprised at all at the lack of enthusiasm for real hot-rodding among today's younger muscle car owners. Many have never done anything more exciting that installing a catch can or CAI, or some chrome/polished engine doo-dah that serves no real purpose.

There are a few real hot-rodders/car guys on the forums, but they are few and far between.

 

So here's my question. Do you think any of those "real hot rodders/car guys" would have bought an auto v6?

 

Well to me a real car guy would appreciate a solid car no matter what the engine. Ad for true hot rodder, theres been plenty of projects that involve v6 to v8 motors.

 

How many projects have you seen that take a v6 and drop the same production year v8 motor in it? I've seen zero, and that project would be called buyers remorse. If he was a true car guy, he would appreciate the v6 platform, and wouldn't want a v8 engine to replace it. If he was a true car guy, he wouldn't have Shelby written all over his v6, or the trillion cosmetic mods. If he he was a true car guy, he wouldn't think that ram air was going to actually do something for his v6.

Don't get me wrong...I like your car a lot jsimmons. I just think there is more to your story that your not telling us. Either a. Your no car guy either. Or b. you know you made a big mistake and your regretting it.

 

Gone are the days of your 70 Nova with an
Inline 6, swapping it to a V8. So many more variables with the modern cars.

 

Precisely. Most guys that ask about a V8 swap don't consider the ancillary systems. I was merely answering the question, "What does it take to swap a coyote motor into a v6 car?" As it turns out, it takes a lot, and what it takes costs a lot.

My original plan was even more insane than "just swapping an OEM V8 into a V6", but the realities of annual inspections in Texas changed my mind, and in fact, was the driving force for the OEM swap - you can't "legally" use a motor made for an older car, which means no pushrod motors (my original plan), and not even a 4.6 V8 in a 2011+ Mustang.

 

I never said swap in the bigger motor from the same production year. I just said that there have been many swaps. Heck what about the EVO powered stang? LS1 powered imports, classics with no motor to being completely restored. There are a lot of variables to consider with doing a motor swap.
The correct control unit, transmission, driveshaft, motor mounts, new computer tune, exhaust work, location for power steering rack, etc., etc..

And i would think it as insulting that im "not a car guy" just because i wanna drop a coyote into the sixxer. I know that wasnt directed at me but that is a pretty bold statement

 

It is a bold statement, and I find it hard to believe that anyone would buy a v6 with the intention of spending 18k to drop a coyote engine in it (a supercharger and forged internals would be half the cost and more hp). Any logical person would just buy the v8 or max out their current platform. So it leads me to believe that when people want to do this, it's because they are regretting their purchase choice. I would imagine that a true car guy would want the best platform he can afford. So why on earth would a car guy buy an auto v6 and then dump 14k in cosmetic mods? It doesn't add up. I don't even know how spending 14k in mods is possible with no sc, major engine work, or elaborate high end suspension work.

A car guy takes a 1970 v6 project and drops a v8 in. Not a 2011 mustang v6. Sorry. Either your not a car guy, or the regret from buying a v6 is driving you crazy enough to justify a swap like that.

 

What if at the time all you can afford is the v6? Then after quite sone time he has plenty more cash and can do what he/she wants

 

But these are only differing opinions so lets agree to disagree and get things back on topic

 

This is a great discussion and originally where the mustang came from. You can buy a sports car for your budget. People who want a good car but can't afford the best can still get a powerful car and upgrade it along the way. That's why mustangs are so much fun and why we have forums like this.

I like that you're asking this question. Asking questions like this usually start to get problems solved down the way. That's the attitude of a true hot rodder - how can I make this work?!

 

True Motor head here, all the way from my Blown 429 Mid engine 72 Gran Torino Wagon to my 500HP 73 Cougar along with a whole lot of other stuff along the way.
Yep, My 2010 was an automatic V6, but since we have the days of touch the motor and don't pass emissions I went to making them handle better.

 

Do you still have this 2010?

 

He details the cost of all the parts here.

 

No, traded it on my 13. But I did buy it.