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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Flagstang
my 2007 with the ford racing whipple 550hp kit was my daily driver. made over 460 wheel on 91 and still got 23 highway.
460 at the wheels? That seems like really pushing the 4.6. How many times did you actually really run in boost though? A couple of dozen? A couple of hundred? How many passes at the drag strip? I think an indicator of what an engine can handle is better gauged by how reliable it is at the track since I really doubt a car strictly driven on the street would actually be in boost very often unless you're going out every week looking for races. And I don't think you'd have a license in a short time if that were true.
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 05:11 PM
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460 at the wheels? That seems like really pushing the 4.6. How many times did you actually really run in boost though? A couple of dozen? A couple of hundred? How many passes at the drag strip? I think an indicator of what an engine can handle is better gauged by how reliable it is at the track since I really doubt a car strictly driven on the street would actually be in boost very often unless you're going out every week looking for races. And I don't think you'd have a license in a short time if that were true.
460 wheel on 91 pump. The 4.6 is good for over 500 wheel stock. Its a roots style superchagers so its always in boost(you get the extra power from 1 rpm). My whipple supercharger was installed at my local ford store and it carried a ford warranty. If ford will warranty it that must mean its not pushing things that much. I drove the car like a I stole it. I drove the car daily.
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Flagstang
460 wheel on 91 pump. The 4.6 is good for over 500 wheel stock. Its a roots style superchagers so its always in boost(you get the extra power from 1 rpm). My whipple supercharger was installed at my local ford store and it carried a ford warranty. If ford will warranty it that must mean its not pushing things that much. I drove the car like a I stole it. I drove the car daily.
Well that was a non-answer. I don't care if it's in like 2 lbs of boost on daily driving. I don't doubt it could handle that. How many times have you been in MAX boost where you're actually putting 460 to the wheels. How many times has your car been to the track? What were your track times in boost?
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 03:59 PM
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Well that was a non-answer. I don't care if it's in like 2 lbs of boost on daily driving. I don't doubt it could handle that. How many times have you been in MAX boost where you're actually putting 460 to the wheels. How many times has your car been to the track? What were your track times in boost?
Lol flagstang has been here a while.. if you knew him you would know he hits boost pretty often
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 04:06 PM
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Lol flagstang has been here a while.. if you knew him you would know he hits boost pretty often
I'm interested in the durability of the engine. I don't have "often" on my calculator.
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 04:48 PM
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I'm interested in the durability of the engine. I don't have "often" on my calculator.
Do you have "variables" for some cranks, blocks, heads, pistons just happen to be stronger than other engines?
Cause you need that to to calculate durability of his engine
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 05:30 PM
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Do you have "variables" for some cranks, blocks, heads, pistons just happen to be stronger than other engines?
Cause you need that to to calculate durability of his engine
Why are we jumping all the way down to the mechanics of the engine? I'm just interested in the real world performance/durability of his car that he claims. If he has a dyno sheet I'd be interested in seeing that too though. So how about a dyno sheet, roughly how many times the car ran in max boost and some drag time slips.

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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 05:34 PM
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Well this thread got real dumb real quick... Lol
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 05:46 PM
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Why are we jumping all the way down to the mechanics of the engine? I'm just interested in the real world performance/durability of his car that he claims. If he has a dyno sheet I'd be interested in seeing that too though. So how about a dyno sheet, roughly how many times the car ran in max boost and some drag time slips.
Because you wanted an exact answer. And I'm just making sure your "calculator" has all you need for an exact answer
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 05:54 PM
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Because you wanted an exact answer. And I'm just making sure your "calculator" has all you need for an exact answer
No problem. You got confused with your strawman so I understand.
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by db2797
No problem. You got confused with your strawman so I understand.
Wow...you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, do you?

The V6 is not some 650hp monster just waiting for goofs like you to "unlock the power" with aftermarket mods; it's a "common-sense" gas-saver for people who want better mpg. It's not a more reliable engine than the GT, it's not holding more potential power than the GT, and as modded as it can be, it will never reach a point at which the GT can't be made to match or surpass the power production made by the V6, significantly. That's just the way it is.

Stop crying about people not being in speechless awe of the V6 because they're happy with their GT's. Stop encouraging your ***** envy of those with cars that have bigger engines than yours. Your continual posts on this and other matters paint you as a little man with a massive Napoleon complex. Mod your V6, race it and be happy with it. Or get a GT and go faster.

Good God.

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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 06:58 PM
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Well this thread got sidetracked hahaha
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 07:19 PM
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Wow...you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, do you?

The V6 is not some 650hp monster just waiting for goofs like you to "unlock the power" with aftermarket mods; it's a "common-sense" gas-saver for people who want better mpg. It's not a more reliable engine than the GT, it's not holding more potential power than the GT, and as modded as it can be, it will never reach a point at which the GT can't be made to match or surpass the power production made by the V6, significantly. That's just the way it is.

Stop crying about people not being in speechless awe of the V6 because they're happy with their GT's. Stop encouraging your ***** envy of those with cars that have bigger engines than yours. Your continual posts on this and other matters paint you as a little man with a massive Napoleon complex. Mod your V6, race it and be happy with it. Or get a GT and go faster.

Good God.
Good god, get your facts straight...I don't have ***** envy against these older GT's. I could go buy a 2010 and earlier GT tomorrow if I wanted. I have ***** envy against Supercharged 5.0 Aluminator engines that have the capability of putting down 700HP without even blinking an eye and doing low 9 second quarter miles on a consistent and reliable basis. THAT's where my ***** envy is...not older GT's lol. That's where my future build is going to be. My v6 is just for fun at the track and on the street in the meantime until I build my dedicated track car.
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by db2797
Good god, get your facts straight...I don't have ***** envy against these older GT's. I could go buy a 2010 and earlier GT tomorrow if I wanted. I have ***** envy against Supercharged 5.0 Aluminator engines that have the capability of putting down 700HP without even blinking an eye and doing low 9 second quarter miles on a consistent and reliable basis. THAT's where my ***** envy is...not older GT's lol. That's where my future build is going to be. My v6 is just for fun at the track and on the street in the meantime until I build my dedicated track car.
Then why are you being such a ninnyhammer child about all of this?
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 07:39 PM
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Then why are you being such a ninnyhammer child about all of this?
I'm not being a ninnyhammer. I get sick of the superiority complex that many seem to display against the v6 and if those same members make claims about power, I'd like to see the proof of those claims. There seems to be this bullying that happens against certain members. I've seen it here way too often. Whether it's labels members have on their cars, or threads about mods they are doing to their "v6", there's constant bullying against them. "Don't put Boss on your car". "Don't mod a v6".

I'm just sticking up for the v6 crowd. And when I eventually have my 9 second car complete over the next few years, I'll still stick up for the V6 crowd.
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 09:10 PM
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I'm not being a ninnyhammer. I get sick of the superiority complex that many seem to display against the v6 and if those same members make claims about power, I'd like to see the proof of those claims. There seems to be this bullying that happens against certain members. I've seen it here way too often. Whether it's labels members have on their cars, or threads about mods they are doing to their "v6", there's constant bullying against them. "Don't put Boss on your car". "Don't mod a v6".

I'm just sticking up for the v6 crowd. And when I eventually have my 9 second car complete over the next few years, I'll still stick up for the V6 crowd.
First of all, you are being a ninnyhammer.

Secondly, if a guy who buys a Boss takes offense at some schmo labeling a V6 or GT a Boss and it isn't one, he has that right. You or anyone else can stick whatever labels you want on your car, but if it's being advertised as something it isn't, expect ridicule, derision and scorn if and when the fraud is uncovered--and rightly so. It smacks of ricers sticking racing labels on their wal-mart-special 4-bangers. It's dishonest, and should be discouraged at every turn.

Third, there is no war against the V6, here or anywhere. There are numerous individuals who know a hell of a lot more than most about mustangs, mods and vehicles in general. Two of those individuals are two of the people you're trying to slap-fight in this very thread, and I'm not counting myself. You're taking offense at people stating nothing but cold, hard facts: the GT is a faster, more powerful version of the same car than the V6. No one's waging a war. You can stop carrying the torch now.

This is way off topic. I won't contribute to this thread's wayward ways any further.

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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 09:34 PM
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I'm not being a ninnyhammer. I get sick of the superiority complex that many seem to display against the v6 and if those same members make claims about power, I'd like to see the proof of those claims. There seems to be this bullying that happens against certain members. I've seen it here way too often. Whether it's labels members have on their cars, or threads about mods they are doing to their "v6", there's constant bullying against them. "Don't put Boss on your car". "Don't mod a v6".

I'm just sticking up for the v6 crowd. And when I eventually have my 9 second car complete over the next few years, I'll still stick up for the V6 crowd.
Do you stick up for the 4 Banger Honda Crowd?
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 09:34 PM
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by db2797

Good god, get your facts straight...I don't have ***** envy against these older GT's. I could go buy a 2010 and earlier GT tomorrow if I wanted. I have ***** envy against Supercharged 5.0 Aluminator engines that have the capability of putting down 700HP without even blinking an eye and doing low 9 second quarter miles on a consistent and reliable basis. THAT's where my ***** envy is...not older GT's lol. That's where my future build is going to be. My v6 is just for fun at the track and on the street in the meantime until I build my dedicated track car.
The 4v 4.6 cobra engines from a 2003-2004 could put that down all day with little modifications. Its also mated to the tried and true t56 (same tranny as the viper). It also weighs significantly less and would cost less then said aluminator 5.0 mustang.

Terminator ftw!
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 09:44 PM
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The 4v 4.6 cobra engines from a 2003-2004 could put that down all day with little modifications. Its also mated to the tried and true t56 (same tranny as the viper). It also weighs significantly less and would cost less then said aluminator 5.0 mustang.

Terminator ftw!
Cobra engines have forged internals so yes I can see them putting down serious HP. I had thought about building around one of them and I agree it would probably cost less. That's the only other direction I can see myself going if not with the aluminator.
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