Wheel hop fixes?
10/31/12, 09:01 PM
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Wheel hop fixes?
What do I need to do to fix the awful wheel hop these cars have? I love the car, but this is the worst case of wheel hop in a RWD i've ever experienced 
11/1/12, 06:49 AM
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You hear this suggestion a lot...and I believe that the can help...but in most cases, folks report back that the hop is still present, if mitigated only a little.
The solution seems to reside in a number of factors and eliminating it is costly...
1.) stiffer bushings, reduce deflection
2.) upper and lower control arms, recuding reciporicating mass
3.) adjustment to pinion angle/suspension geometry- lowering and adjusting pinion angle usually does wonders
I suspect you need to do all of the above if you plan to run sticky tires and not suffer wheel hop.
The other (lame) alternative is to run lower traction rubber. The rental Mustang GT I had (with all season tires) didn't hop at all!! My BBP car hops so badly that I have never even smoked the tires up. (It's my only complaint about this amazing car).
The solution seems to reside in a number of factors and eliminating it is costly...
1.) stiffer bushings, reduce deflection
2.) upper and lower control arms, recuding reciporicating mass
3.) adjustment to pinion angle/suspension geometry- lowering and adjusting pinion angle usually does wonders
I suspect you need to do all of the above if you plan to run sticky tires and not suffer wheel hop.
The other (lame) alternative is to run lower traction rubber. The rental Mustang GT I had (with all season tires) didn't hop at all!! My BBP car hops so badly that I have never even smoked the tires up. (It's my only complaint about this amazing car).
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11/1/12, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Supra
What do I need to do to fix the awful wheel hop these cars have? I love the car, but this is the worst case of wheel hop in a RWD i've ever experienced
11/1/12, 07:44 AM
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[QUOTE=MRGTX;6479689]You hear this suggestion a lot...and I believe that the can help...but in most cases, folks report back that the hop is still present, if mitigated only a little.
The solution seems to reside in a number of factors and eliminating it is costly...
1.) stiffer bushings, reduce deflection
2.) upper and lower control arms, recuding reciporicating mass
3.) adjustment to pinion angle/suspension geometry- lowering and adjusting pinion angle usually does wonders
I suspect you need to do all of the above if you plan to run sticky tires and not suffer wheel hop.
The other (lame) alternative is to run lower traction rubber. The rental Mustang GT I had (with all season tires) didn't hop at all!! My BBP car hops so badly that I have never even smoked the tires up. (It's my only complaint about this amazing car).[/QUOTE
It's been my understanding that the upper control arm is more benificial then the lower ones.
The solution seems to reside in a number of factors and eliminating it is costly...
1.) stiffer bushings, reduce deflection
2.) upper and lower control arms, recuding reciporicating mass
3.) adjustment to pinion angle/suspension geometry- lowering and adjusting pinion angle usually does wonders
I suspect you need to do all of the above if you plan to run sticky tires and not suffer wheel hop.
The other (lame) alternative is to run lower traction rubber. The rental Mustang GT I had (with all season tires) didn't hop at all!! My BBP car hops so badly that I have never even smoked the tires up. (It's my only complaint about this amazing car).[/QUOTE
It's been my understanding that the upper control arm is more benificial then the lower ones.
11/1/12, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by MRGTX
You hear this suggestion a lot...and I believe that the can help...but in most cases, folks report back that the hop is still present, if mitigated only a little.
The solution seems to reside in a number of factors and eliminating it is costly...
1.) stiffer bushings, reduce deflection
2.) upper and lower control arms, recuding reciporicating mass
3.) adjustment to pinion angle/suspension geometry- lowering and adjusting pinion angle usually does wonders
I suspect you need to do all of the above if you plan to run sticky tires and not suffer wheel hop.
The other (lame) alternative is to run lower traction rubber. The rental Mustang GT I had (with all season tires) didn't hop at all!! My BBP car hops so badly that I have never even smoked the tires up. (It's my only complaint about this amazing car).
Lcas and uca have nothing to do with reciprocating mass. And it's been reported numerous times that drs and slicks actually help eliminate wheel hop. Lcas with relocation brackets help tremendously as well.
11/1/12, 08:09 AM
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Understsanding that we're talking slightly different setups overall, adding a set of Steeda LCAs all but eliminated the wheel hop on the '06 GT that I had. 99.9% gone. Later adding an UCA to correct pinion angle after installing a one piece drive shaft did nothing to further reduce the hop.
11/1/12, 10:35 AM
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lower control arms and relocation brackets
Ford calls them out here
http://www.fordracingpartsdirect.com/category_s/190.htm
2007-2013 Shelby GT500 Rear Lower Control Arm Kit -- M-5538-A
Our Price: $149.95
•Fits 2005-2013 Mustang
•Original equipment on 2007-2013 Shelby GT500
•Increased bushing durometer and stiffness for higher horsepower applications
•Great for use with rear control arm relocation kit M-5650-A to further reduce rear wheel hop.
2005-2013 MUSTANG LOWER CONTROL ARM RELOCATION BRACKET -- M-5650-A
Our Price: $175.95
•Fits 2005-2013 Mustang GT and 2007-2013 Shelby GT500
•Bracket allows adjustemnt of rear lower control arm mounting point at axle
•Allows adjustment of instant center for optimium traction
•A must have for reducing wheel-hop
•Will not fit stock Mustang GT lower control arms.
•Mustang GT customers should purchase GT500 lower control arm kit M-5538-A or aftermarket equivalent.
Ford calls them out here
http://www.fordracingpartsdirect.com/category_s/190.htm
2007-2013 Shelby GT500 Rear Lower Control Arm Kit -- M-5538-A
Our Price: $149.95
•Fits 2005-2013 Mustang
•Original equipment on 2007-2013 Shelby GT500
•Increased bushing durometer and stiffness for higher horsepower applications
•Great for use with rear control arm relocation kit M-5650-A to further reduce rear wheel hop.
2005-2013 MUSTANG LOWER CONTROL ARM RELOCATION BRACKET -- M-5650-A
Our Price: $175.95
•Fits 2005-2013 Mustang GT and 2007-2013 Shelby GT500
•Bracket allows adjustemnt of rear lower control arm mounting point at axle
•Allows adjustment of instant center for optimium traction
•A must have for reducing wheel-hop
•Will not fit stock Mustang GT lower control arms.
•Mustang GT customers should purchase GT500 lower control arm kit M-5538-A or aftermarket equivalent.
11/1/12, 08:40 PM
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lower control arms and relocation brackets
Ford calls them out here
http://www.fordracingpartsdirect.com/category_s/190.htm
2007-2013 Shelby GT500 Rear Lower Control Arm Kit -- M-5538-A
Our Price: $149.95
•Fits 2005-2013 Mustang
•Original equipment on 2007-2013 Shelby GT500
•Increased bushing durometer and stiffness for higher horsepower applications
•Great for use with rear control arm relocation kit M-5650-A to further reduce rear wheel hop.
2005-2013 MUSTANG LOWER CONTROL ARM RELOCATION BRACKET -- M-5650-A
Our Price: $175.95
•Fits 2005-2013 Mustang GT and 2007-2013 Shelby GT500
•Bracket allows adjustemnt of rear lower control arm mounting point at axle
•Allows adjustment of instant center for optimium traction
•A must have for reducing wheel-hop
•Will not fit stock Mustang GT lower control arms.
•Mustang GT customers should purchase GT500 lower control arm kit M-5538-A or aftermarket equivalent.
Ford calls them out here
http://www.fordracingpartsdirect.com/category_s/190.htm
2007-2013 Shelby GT500 Rear Lower Control Arm Kit -- M-5538-A
Our Price: $149.95
•Fits 2005-2013 Mustang
•Original equipment on 2007-2013 Shelby GT500
•Increased bushing durometer and stiffness for higher horsepower applications
•Great for use with rear control arm relocation kit M-5650-A to further reduce rear wheel hop.
2005-2013 MUSTANG LOWER CONTROL ARM RELOCATION BRACKET -- M-5650-A
Our Price: $175.95
•Fits 2005-2013 Mustang GT and 2007-2013 Shelby GT500
•Bracket allows adjustemnt of rear lower control arm mounting point at axle
•Allows adjustment of instant center for optimium traction
•A must have for reducing wheel-hop
•Will not fit stock Mustang GT lower control arms.
•Mustang GT customers should purchase GT500 lower control arm kit M-5538-A or aftermarket equivalent.
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11/3/12, 05:42 AM
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Personally, I plan on the CHE relocation brackets and (most likely) the BMR tubular lower control arms.
If I end up hop-free after these 2 mods, I'm gonna be happier than a pig in you-know-what ... lol
If I end up hop-free after these 2 mods, I'm gonna be happier than a pig in you-know-what ... lol
11/3/12, 07:09 AM
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I have the UPR lcas and uca with tq mount and the car feels way better and more responsive, handling it tighter, more power shifted to the wheels instead of being absorbed by the stupid rubber bushing on the stock uca. More nvh but I don't care, I have a loud radio and a loud exhaust lol
11/3/12, 07:54 AM
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I have the UPR lcas and uca with tq mount and the car feels way better and more responsive, handling it tighter, more power shifted to the wheels instead of being absorbed by the stupid rubber bushing on the stock uca. More nvh but I don't care, I have a loud radio and a loud exhaust lol