Shifter bracket
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Shifter bracket
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I have a 2012 gt with the mt82. I absolutly love the trans, with 3.73 the gear ratios are perfect for a high revving small block like this.
However I have notice I get locked out of 3rd when really giving it beans. This does not happen often but I feel there is some slop on this thing that may need to be addressed.
First of im not interested in doing a shifter change, I find the stock shifter rather nice as far as throws are concerned.
I really dont want to do the barton two post shifter bracket as solidly mounting a component that is suposed to have some flex is not my idea of fun. The car is civilised when I want it to and its a beast when I need it.
Keeping with the spirit of this. I find it amusing that the price of a bracket is anywhere between 60bux to 105.....
Now I have eliminated the two post shifter bracket im left with the following 3 examples.
The seeda shifter bracket. Retails about 80bux but it looks like its bonded urathane bushing. Not 100% sure on bonded metal to poly in an open u shape.
The barton regular bracket, with a bushing that is removable.
The AM version of the barton. for about 5 bux cheaper.
Anyone owned either of these? Do they live up to expectations as far as a remedy to possible lockouts on hard upshifts?
Secondly how is the noise compared to stock? I really don't want to turn this thing into a noisy car because I want to bang gears once in a blue moon....
Any real world advice? No hearsay, or reviews here. Just personal experience. Its hard enough to read reviews and thoughts on forums without adding a gigantic grain of salt...
I have a 2012 gt with the mt82. I absolutly love the trans, with 3.73 the gear ratios are perfect for a high revving small block like this.
However I have notice I get locked out of 3rd when really giving it beans. This does not happen often but I feel there is some slop on this thing that may need to be addressed.
First of im not interested in doing a shifter change, I find the stock shifter rather nice as far as throws are concerned.
I really dont want to do the barton two post shifter bracket as solidly mounting a component that is suposed to have some flex is not my idea of fun. The car is civilised when I want it to and its a beast when I need it.
Keeping with the spirit of this. I find it amusing that the price of a bracket is anywhere between 60bux to 105.....
Now I have eliminated the two post shifter bracket im left with the following 3 examples.
The seeda shifter bracket. Retails about 80bux but it looks like its bonded urathane bushing. Not 100% sure on bonded metal to poly in an open u shape.
The barton regular bracket, with a bushing that is removable.
The AM version of the barton. for about 5 bux cheaper.
Anyone owned either of these? Do they live up to expectations as far as a remedy to possible lockouts on hard upshifts?
Secondly how is the noise compared to stock? I really don't want to turn this thing into a noisy car because I want to bang gears once in a blue moon....
Any real world advice? No hearsay, or reviews here. Just personal experience. Its hard enough to read reviews and thoughts on forums without adding a gigantic grain of salt...
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I have the steeda bracket and it cured the issue for me. I have the quieter bushing installed. If the car is off and your door is open, there is a noticeable amount of noise. If you turn in your engine, you can't hear any of the noise.
I am very happy with car. The bracket works well.
I am very happy with car. The bracket works well.
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I have the steeda bracket and it cured the issue for me. I have the quieter bushing installed. If the car is off and your door is open, there is a noticeable amount of noise. If you turn in your engine, you can't hear any of the noise.
I am very happy with car. The bracket works well.
I am very happy with car. The bracket works well.
Something to consider then.
#4
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See this thread and order yourself a short throw MGW and call your shifting woes a day. Mine is on order along with a Roush GHIG shifter ball.
https://themustangsource.com/f800/mgw-its-way-525283/
https://themustangsource.com/f800/mgw-its-way-525283/
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If you want to retain the stock shifter but cure the lockout of third under high rpm's consider the Energy Suspension bushing. It's less than $10 and install is easy as long as you have a 10mm deep well socket and enough ratchet extensions to reach. It's not the MGW, but it will fix the lockout.
http://www.prothanesuspensionparts.c...asp?prod=61612
http://www.prothanesuspensionparts.c...asp?prod=61612
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Not sure you what you mean by bonded. The Steeda bracket comes with two bushings which are interchangeable. I'm using the black bushing which is the harder one. NVH is minimal and the second to third shift is firm and precise - no missed shifts. I installed the Steeda shifter at the same time so I can't tell you how much of the improvement came from the bushing alone but from what I've read in the forums it makes a big difference with the stock shifter.
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It's not the MGW, but it will fix the lockout.
http://www.prothanesuspensionparts.c...asp?prod=61612
http://www.prothanesuspensionparts.c...asp?prod=61612
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If you want to retain the stock shifter but cure the lockout of third under high rpm's consider the Energy Suspension bushing. It's less than $10 and install is easy as long as you have a 10mm deep well socket and enough ratchet extensions to reach. It's not the MGW, but it will fix the lockout.
http://www.prothanesuspensionparts.c...asp?prod=61612
http://www.prothanesuspensionparts.c...asp?prod=61612
I have installed this bushing on mine and it has really improved the shifter precision and response.
For the price it's an easy fix
#10
Our Steeda bracket is one of our most popular parts:
http://www.steeda.com/store/steeda-m...hing-555-7090/
We design, engineer, and manufacture our parts in house ... made right here in the U.S.A.
You will have 0 issues with our bracket.
Let me know if I can help assist with anything .. you can reach me at tim@steeda.com.
Best Regards,
TJ
http://www.steeda.com/store/steeda-m...hing-555-7090/
We design, engineer, and manufacture our parts in house ... made right here in the U.S.A.
You will have 0 issues with our bracket.
I had a performance shop upgrade my entire suspension for my 2011 Mustang GT...along with the suspension components, they highly recommended that the Steeda Mustang Shifter Base Bushing was a must. I agreed and am so glad I had them install it (went with the black bushing). Nothing bu nice, clean shifts compared to the stock part. Now I know why it was so highly recommended!!!
had put on the triaxe shifter and loved how it in proved the feel and precise shifting but this peace made it even better I used the red insert and didnt notice any sound makes the whole thing seam so much better thanks steeda
Best Regards,
TJ
#11
I have the tri ax and shifter bracket. I do notice more transmission noise especially in 1-2 gears. My biggest issue is how much effort it takes to shift from 1-2. Sometimes I get locked out of second. Im hoping that I just need to get used to it, but I hope the 1-2 shifts gets easier with time.
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I have the tri ax and shifter bracket. I do notice more transmission noise especially in 1-2 gears. My biggest issue is how much effort it takes to shift from 1-2. Sometimes I get locked out of second. Im hoping that I just need to get used to it, but I hope the 1-2 shifts gets easier with time.
"Note: Before final tightening of the bolts, make sure the shifter goes into all gears. Due to tolerances in the factory shifter base, the Tri-Ax shifter may need to be adjusted very slightly left or right. The flat face on the upper lever reverse lockout ear is to just touch, or almost touch the boss on the side of the shifter base when in first and second gear."
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I don't have that problem with mine - it shifts perfectly. Assuming you don't have a transmission or clutch issue maybe the shifter is hitting the reverse lockout tab and needs to be realigned. The following is from the installation instructions.
"Note: Before final tightening of the bolts, make sure the shifter goes into all gears. Due to tolerances in the factory shifter base, the Tri-Ax shifter may need to be adjusted very slightly left or right. The flat face on the upper lever reverse lockout ear is to just touch, or almost touch the boss on the side of the shifter base when in first and second gear."
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If you want to retain the stock shifter but cure the lockout of third under high rpm's consider the Energy Suspension bushing. It's less than $10 and install is easy as long as you have a 10mm deep well socket and enough ratchet extensions to reach. It's not the MGW, but it will fix the lockout. http://www.prothanesuspensionparts.c...asp?prod=61612
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My lockout wasn't fixed by the Steeda bracket - it took the Whiteline trans mount insert to fix it. Having said that, the racket goes a long ways towards improving shifter performance.
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The OEM shifter bracket is strictly designed to reduce NVH; any replacement will introduce noise and harshness.
I have the 2 post bracket and it has solved a lot of the deflection issues preventing cleaning shifts. I'm pretty sure a whole shifter assembly replacement like the MGW will be the same story (in regards to NVH and performance).
I have the 2 post bracket and it has solved a lot of the deflection issues preventing cleaning shifts. I'm pretty sure a whole shifter assembly replacement like the MGW will be the same story (in regards to NVH and performance).
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I stuck with the stock shifter for 30k. The bushings will help a little. But won't cure all the quirks. I finally broke down and did the MGW. once you pull the factory shifter and see zip ties holding stuff together it's comical. The throws on the MGW are shorter. But the difference it makes is amazing. There's no more cold shifting issues, no bind what so ever. And the MGW is quieter and vibrates less than the stock one. $400 isn't cheap...but in the end I enjoy this over all the other mods I've done.
The OEM shifter bracket is strictly designed to reduce NVH; any replacement will introduce noise and harshness. I have the 2 post bracket and it has solved a lot of the deflection issues preventing cleaning shifts. I'm pretty sure a whole shifter assembly replacement like the MGW will be the same story (in regards to NVH and performance).
You are correct too. Although with mine, it was just a slight increase in nvh... Made it sound better even manlier lol