5.0L GT Modifications Placeholder for future motor based GT's modifications.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

help free up HP.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 8, 2013 | 07:24 PM
  #21  
RubyTuesday2014's Avatar
GT Member
 
Joined: October 23, 2013
Posts: 124
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Tominkc
Hello fellow Mustangers.
I have a 2012 GT 5.0 6 sp manual trans Mustang and want to free up some more HP. I'm getting s aluminum DRIVE shaft and I was thinking about getting a lighter flywheel and was wondering what brand flywheel would be the the best as for strength and light weight. Any help or any other suggestions would greatly be appreciative. Thanks
Have you thought about spending another $500 and get a Carbon Fiber drive shaft? It would be stronger and lighter. For me, "do things once, do it right".
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2013 | 10:41 AM
  #22  
bob's Avatar
bob
Legacy TMS Member
 
Joined: May 16, 2004
Posts: 5,206
Likes: 18
From: Bristol, TN
Originally Posted by RubyTuesday2014
Have you thought about spending another $500 and get a Carbon Fiber drive shaft? It would be stronger and lighter. For me, "do things once, do it right".
CF driveshafts aren't all that lighter, not for their cost anyway. The bigger benefits are higher strength and the ability to mitigate driveline shock by twisting.
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2013 | 11:37 AM
  #23  
Tominkc's Avatar
Thread Starter
V6 Member
 
Joined: April 28, 2013
Posts: 54
Likes: 0
I've thought about the carbon fiber DS, buy read up on the DSS Drive shaft and I'm pretty sold on them!! I just keep thinking back when I had a carbon fiber driver golf clubs and the head broke off after 4 months of using it about killed a friend when the head went flying. Lol
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2013 | 06:43 PM
  #24  
RubyTuesday2014's Avatar
GT Member
 
Joined: October 23, 2013
Posts: 124
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Tominkc
I've thought about the carbon fiber DS, buy read up on the DSS Drive shaft and I'm pretty sold on them!! I just keep thinking back when I had a carbon fiber driver golf clubs and the head broke off after 4 months of using it about killed a friend when the head went flying. Lol
I have been looking at the T56, with a McLeod RST and then the DSS Carbon Fiber. I think it would be a very nice setup
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2013 | 09:08 PM
  #25  
conv_stang's Avatar
Shelby GT500 Member
 
Joined: March 3, 2004
Posts: 2,634
Likes: 0
From: Richmond VA
Originally Posted by RubyTuesday2014
I have been looking at the T56, with a McLeod RST and then the DSS Carbon Fiber. I think it would be a very nice setup
Only problem with the T56 the gear ratios aren't right for the 5.0
And carbon fiber is only like 2 lbs lighter than the aluminum. It is stronger, but I believe the aluminum is good for 900 hp. Not really worth the extra $500 unless you have extra $ like that lol
A good tune is the best first mod. It takes out that sluggishness in the throttle response and is a nice increase in power
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2013 | 02:13 PM
  #26  
RubyTuesday2014's Avatar
GT Member
 
Joined: October 23, 2013
Posts: 124
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by conv_stang
Only problem with the T56 the gear ratios aren't right for the 5.0
And carbon fiber is only like 2 lbs lighter than the aluminum. It is stronger, but I believe the aluminum is good for 900 hp. Not really worth the extra $500 unless you have extra $ like that lol
A good tune is the best first mod. It takes out that sluggishness in the throttle response and is a nice increase in power
I think the Cobra has T56 and so does the Camaro. the Camaro gets it in the 1LE package
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2013 | 02:29 PM
  #27  
conv_stang's Avatar
Shelby GT500 Member
 
Joined: March 3, 2004
Posts: 2,634
Likes: 0
From: Richmond VA
Originally Posted by RubyTuesday2014
I think the Cobra has T56 and so does the Camaro. the Camaro gets it in the 1LE package
Shelby has the TR6060 as do all the Camaros. The 1LE has different gearing.
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2013 | 05:11 PM
  #28  
RubyTuesday2014's Avatar
GT Member
 
Joined: October 23, 2013
Posts: 124
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by conv_stang
Shelby has the TR6060 as do all the Camaros. The 1LE has different gearing.
I was reading where it said the 1LE was with the Tremec so I thought not all. I know the T56 does come with 2 gear ratios. I am not sure which one would be the better. I would assume one is better for the track and the other for 1/4 mile runs. I look on FR and you can order the T56 with the 2 different ratios
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2013 | 05:24 PM
  #29  
conv_stang's Avatar
Shelby GT500 Member
 
Joined: March 3, 2004
Posts: 2,634
Likes: 0
From: Richmond VA
Originally Posted by RubyTuesday2014
I was reading where it said the 1LE was with the Tremec so I thought not all. I know the T56 does come with 2 gear ratios. I am not sure which one would be the better. I would assume one is better for the track and the other for 1/4 mile runs. I look on FR and you can order the T56 with the 2 different ratios
They listed the MT82 gears on here somewhere. I would get close to those. The MT82 isn't the greatest. But it is matched so well to the 5.0 to keep the engine up in revs. I changed the shifter on mine finally and it did away with the cold weather shifting problems on mine. And haven't had any other issues.
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2013 | 08:09 AM
  #30  
bob's Avatar
bob
Legacy TMS Member
 
Joined: May 16, 2004
Posts: 5,206
Likes: 18
From: Bristol, TN
Originally Posted by RubyTuesday2014
I have been looking at the T56, with a McLeod RST and then the DSS Carbon Fiber. I think it would be a very nice setup
The RST is a great clutch but the RXT besides more holding power is a lot more tolerant of abuse ( by abuse I mean slipping the clutch as would be done at the track) the RXT is less prone to glaze and when it does you don't have to have it rebuilt like the RST.
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2013 | 11:57 AM
  #31  
RubyTuesday2014's Avatar
GT Member
 
Joined: October 23, 2013
Posts: 124
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by bob
The RST is a great clutch but the RXT besides more holding power is a lot more tolerant of abuse ( by abuse I mean slipping the clutch as would be done at the track) the RXT is less prone to glaze and when it does you don't have to have it rebuilt like the RST.
That's good information. I was looking at that one too. I was looking at Centerforce also. I know they both make good clutches, but I don't have any experience with either one.
Reply
Old Nov 13, 2013 | 03:54 PM
  #32  
Krohn's Avatar
Mach 1 Member
 
Joined: April 11, 2012
Posts: 981
Likes: 4
From: Houston, TX
If you want to free up more weight, wheels?
If I was wanting my car to just breath and run better, I'd do what you've done and are doing.
I think the DS and Flywheel should work well together.
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2013 | 06:37 PM
  #33  
El Coyote GT/CS's Avatar
Bullitt Member
 
Joined: August 20, 2013
Posts: 290
Likes: 6
From: So Cal
Originally Posted by GrabberBlue5.0
No.

I'm well aware. But to suggest it for these cars is pretty funny.
Originally Posted by Glenn
don't know what year it is because I smoke to much pot .... or is it I smoke just the right amount of pot???????? ?????? After I posted the question I did look into it and found out they do NOT make them for these cars...... probably just a matter of time tho. They have made them for pretty much every year mustang for many years now '/.,][][{,.>>. Eh Scott
Uh, Fords makes an under-drive pulley for the Coyote to reduce parasitic HP loss. I don't know if you can buy them separately but you can get this:

http://www.fordracingpartsdirect.com...00-m50balt.htm

I don't see why that idea is funny. Guess I gotta smoke more weed.
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2013 | 08:36 PM
  #34  
Brandon302's Avatar
Shelby GT350 Member
 
Joined: May 6, 2012
Posts: 2,060
Likes: 0
From: Crofton MD
Originally Posted by El Coyote GT/CS
Uh, Fords makes an under-drive pulley for the Coyote to reduce parasitic HP loss. I don't know if you can buy them separately but you can get this:

http://www.fordracingpartsdirect.com...00-m50balt.htm

I don't see why that idea is funny. Guess I gotta smoke more weed.
That kit doesn't look so much like an underdrive kit as it is a Boss alternator swap.
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2013 | 08:38 PM
  #35  
Brandon302's Avatar
Shelby GT350 Member
 
Joined: May 6, 2012
Posts: 2,060
Likes: 0
From: Crofton MD
Originally Posted by Krohn
If you want to free up more weight, wheels?
If I was wanting my car to just breath and run better, I'd do what you've done and are doing.
I think the DS and Flywheel should work well together.
Reducing unsprung and rotational mass is going to be the most effective way of freeing HP and reducing the cars weight all at the same time.
Reply
Old Nov 19, 2013 | 03:57 AM
  #36  
GrabberBlue5.0's Avatar
Mach 1 Member
 
Joined: August 3, 2011
Posts: 700
Likes: 4
From: East Haven, Connecticut
Originally Posted by El Coyote GT/CS
Uh, Fords makes an under-drive pulley for the Coyote to reduce parasitic HP loss. I don't know if you can buy them separately but you can get this:

http://www.fordracingpartsdirect.com...00-m50balt.htm

I don't see why that idea is funny. Guess I gotta smoke more weed.
That's not an under drive kit. And for $325 looks like a waste. Maybe less weed would help you?

Last edited by GrabberBlue5.0; Nov 19, 2013 at 04:05 AM.
Reply
Old Nov 19, 2013 | 12:14 PM
  #37  
El Coyote GT/CS's Avatar
Bullitt Member
 
Joined: August 20, 2013
Posts: 290
Likes: 6
From: So Cal
Originally Posted by GrabberBlue5.0
That's not an under drive kit. And for $325 looks like a waste. Maybe less weed would help you?
Yeah, it's not a typical under drive kit. But it does slow down the alternator for a little more power. I agree that, for the cost, it's probably not a good value...kind of like a lot of CAI's.

Where I live I can't smoke less weed. Around here it blows through the neighborhood all the time and we just breathe it in! But the "authorities" tell us it's okay because it's medicinal!

Last edited by El Coyote GT/CS; Nov 19, 2013 at 02:58 PM.
Reply
Old Nov 19, 2013 | 04:43 PM
  #38  
Glenn's Avatar
Legacy TMS Member
 
Joined: August 7, 2006
Posts: 16,113
Likes: 789
From: In Boredom
Reply
Old Nov 19, 2013 | 07:44 PM
  #39  
ford20's Avatar
Legacy TMS Member
 
Joined: January 1, 2010
Posts: 3,033
Likes: 66
From: White Plains, NY
Honestly if you are going through all of the trouble to get a flywheel you might as well get a new clutch as well why you have the transmission open. IMO you are better off just getting a driveshaft and lighter wheels, but if you are dead set on a flywheel Lightened steel over aluminum. The extra 2lbs. of weight savings just isn't worth the cons IMO unless your car is heavily used at the strip.

As far as Carbon Fiber Driveshafts go I honestly can't 100% justify the added cost for the 1lb. of weight savings over the aluminum driveshaft. But then again one thing that I really like about the cf ds is that unlike an aluminum one, IF (that is a huge if as I have never seen one actually break apart) it does break then the fiber weave unravels unlike the aluminum where it just explodes so it is much safer.
Reply
Old Nov 25, 2013 | 07:36 AM
  #40  
Old Mustang Guy's Avatar
V6 Member
 
Joined: September 23, 2005
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
I got the Shaftmasters aluminum driveshaft after reading this. No vibration, revs a little quicker and they have a good sale till Dec. 15.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
austin101385
'10-14 Shelby Mustangs
3
Oct 2, 2015 01:00 PM
tj@steeda
Auto Shows and Events
0
Sep 30, 2015 07:02 PM
Hbadger94
GT
4
Sep 24, 2015 08:16 PM




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:28 PM.