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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 08:25 AM
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Not to mention that at this point, you're likely to see diminishing returns on torque gain. so you won't see 20hp/20tq for example. you might see 20hp 12tq.
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 08:59 AM
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Trackey is a complex system, modifying a wide range of parameters, traction, performance, braking, etc. Ford rates a GT at 420 hp, a Boss 302 at 444 hp, and with Trackey 469 hp. I think they use crankshaft rating, not a dyno rating, as you would get. Ford's rating [Higher than you will get] is for "comparison" only. But you will get more horsepower on a dyno, with Trackey installed, and lower quarter mile times too. IMO, Trackey works great, in a variety of ways, especially traction control!
Back to the topic, GT500 Sport axleback system, What I notice most is torque, a significant increase in torque. From a dead stop, I can easily use 3d gear and get a clean launch.

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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 09:03 AM
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The factory ratings are off. Been proven time and time again. GT really puts out 435 at the crank, and the Boss 302 around 450 (probably actually being generous there, minimal "gains" on stock GT intake, the "gains" are the fact that it can carry the power to a higher RPM).

I'm almost willing to bet that a stock GT with a tune will put out more to the ground than a Boss with track key.

Track Key is nothing more than a cute little gimmick they sold to B-302 buyers.

There are real parts differences between the Boss and the regular GT, I'm not debating that, but the only power adding change is the intake which allows it to still breathe at 7700, where the GT intake starts to falter around 6500. Then of course is the engine parts that allow it to also spin to that speed regularly without stretching rod bolts for example.

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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 09:19 AM
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just want to add that I have GT 500 mufflers for sale (used 1500 miles) local sale 20607 $170 includes free installation...
ok carry on :-)
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDivaDanielle

Track Key is nothing more than a cute little gimmick they sold to B-302 buyers.
Quit while your behind. The software gives the car full race calibration and two-stage launch control without negatively affecting the warranty.

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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 09:31 AM
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also the factory cam lope tune that kicks in once the temps hit 170 from what I understand...regardless Im dying to race one hehe
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 10:05 AM
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I don't know anything about this whole debate, but I kind of like hearing a lady talking car stuff
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 10:19 AM
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no debate, its $170 with free installation....
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by BackinBlack13

Quit while your behind. The software gives the car full race calibration and two-stage launch control without negatively affecting the warranty.
I think the phrase your trying to use is "quit while you're ahead".

Full race calibration or not, it's not the best tune by any means. I guess that depends on what you value though. It's clearly the best tune in that guys eyes, which is all that matters.
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 10:43 AM
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My whole point is that it's not going to open Pandora's box. Sure launch control is totally kick ***. (I'd totally want that) But the end all be all of tuning? Doubtful.
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 10:53 AM
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which is all that matters.
I'm simply pointing out its not a "gimmick".
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 10:54 AM
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I can agree with you on that. /disagreement over.
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDivaDanielle
GT really puts out 435 at the crank
Where are you getting this from? The stock dyno numbers don't support this at all.

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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 11:03 AM
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the simple fact that they are dynoing consistantly around 375rwhp give or take a few? 15% would be a good estimate for drivetrain loss, maybe up to 18% max on an automatic.

That is -- unless these things are way more efficient than what was commonplace 5-10 years ago. In which case, I'll gladly pack up my suitcase and leave this thread alone, cuz basically I'd be shooting in the dark entirely.
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDivaDanielle
the simple fact that they are dynoing consistantly around 375rwhp give or take a few? 15% would be a good estimate for drivetrain loss, maybe up to 18% max on an automatic.

That is -- unless these things are way more efficient than what was commonplace 5-10 years ago. In which case, I'll gladly pack up my suitcase and leave this thread alone, cuz basically I'd be shooting in the dark entirely.
I've never seen a stock mustang dyno that high. The ones I've seen are all in the 360's range. ...and any that do are suspect IMO
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 11:35 AM
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Too much argument for me, everybody's RIGHT about something, but I still think the GT500 Sport axleback is the "best value" in an exhaust system, and has the "best sound" too!
Anything that takes my car to 12.0 second quarter mile, is O.K., by me!

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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 09:59 AM
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Perhaps someone on this website has done a "resonator delete" on a 2013 Boss 302??? It has a different exhaust system, with side pipes, and resonators might be in different location? An exhaust shop could make slip-ons with clamps.
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Old Sep 19, 2012 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDivaDanielle
resonators are right after the h-pipe. That's what we are talking about.

also there is 0 chance of any real power gain with a muffler swap. Be realistic. With a tune? yeah, I'll give you that 25-30hp all day long.
hmmm.... maybe there is 'some' horsepower to be gained ... lets ask the dyno --

"On the Dyno, Jarrod’s GT saw an increase of 9HP and 6.7 ft TQ with final dyno numbers reading 372.7HP and 361.5TQ. To say we were surprised would be an understatement. The Mustang got a chance to cool some while performing the axle back install but the building we were dyno tuning in was hot and humid so I doubt the number was really skewed that much by the cooling."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqVh5...ayer_embedded#!
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Old Sep 20, 2012 | 11:12 AM
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Real Nice
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 10:41 AM
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Laying one on its side like that would make some work so easy.......
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