Ghost Cam Idle Tune - 2011 Mustang GT 5.0L 4V - Bama Custom Tuning Preview
4/5/11, 08:50 PM
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Ghost Cam Idle Tune - 2011 Mustang GT 5.0L 4V - Bama Custom Tuning Preview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K920Kxq3eLY
Ghost Cam Idle Tune - 2011 Mustang GT 5.0L 4V - Bama Custom Tuning Preview
Check out this preview of the new "Ghost Cams" custom tune from Bama Custom Tuning at AmericanMuscle.com. Want your 2011 Mustang GT to sound like it's got aftermarket cams? Simply give the Bama team a call and they'll hook you up!
*This will not be available for another week or so!
- Currently only works on 2011-2012 Mustang GTs
- Will not increase or decrease Performance and is strictly for sound
Bama Custom Tuning | 888.226.9764 | Monday-Friday 9AM-5:30PM EST
Ghost Cam Idle Tune - 2011 Mustang GT 5.0L 4V - Bama Custom Tuning Preview
Check out this preview of the new "Ghost Cams" custom tune from Bama Custom Tuning at AmericanMuscle.com. Want your 2011 Mustang GT to sound like it's got aftermarket cams? Simply give the Bama team a call and they'll hook you up!
*This will not be available for another week or so!
- Currently only works on 2011-2012 Mustang GTs
- Will not increase or decrease Performance and is strictly for sound
Bama Custom Tuning | 888.226.9764 | Monday-Friday 9AM-5:30PM EST
4/6/11, 01:43 AM
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Got a couple of questions completely out of curiosity:
1.) How's the driveability issue coming along? I noticed in one of the YouTube comments that it wasn't playing nice with automatics.
2.) Since it causes some issues, I'm wondering if whatever is done to give it that sound is still a safe tune?
3.) You said that it is strictly for sound. So you can *either* have this tune for the idle sound only OR have a performance tune with regular idle sound? Or is it a "feature" added to a performance tune?
1.) How's the driveability issue coming along? I noticed in one of the YouTube comments that it wasn't playing nice with automatics.
2.) Since it causes some issues, I'm wondering if whatever is done to give it that sound is still a safe tune?
3.) You said that it is strictly for sound. So you can *either* have this tune for the idle sound only OR have a performance tune with regular idle sound? Or is it a "feature" added to a performance tune?
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4/6/11, 05:24 AM
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I think you still get the same 93 performance tune and power gains like the normal tune when you hit the gas. I doubt Bama would release a tune that would cause harm to the engine. If Ford is doing this with the Boss it should work in a similar way but we don't get a track key.
4/6/11, 10:05 AM
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I'm gonna quote some of my posts from other forums below:
Originally Posted by AMChrisRose
The car this was filmed on is an auto. We've done 90% of our testing on an auto and the rest on a manual local guy.
Here's another part of the whole "will this be available with the Street, Performance or Race" saga. In order to keep from having "bucking" or "bogging" with this, the throttle response needs to be fairly aggressive so it can rev up a little more on take-off to compensate. Basically, it's like driving an automatic car that has a cam too big for the stock converter, not being a smart ***. The manual is better, because they just go a little heavier on the right foot and a little softer on the left foot - problem solved!
So it might have to be something where it's only available on the Race tune in that respect.
People are expecting this thing to come out and have perfect stock-like driveability, when that's just never going to happen... regardless of the tuning. It's going to be DECENT, but even "good" or "decent" or "bad" driveability is subjective. A young punk kid (like me ) is going to think it "drives like **** compared to my dads 03 cobra with cams". An experienced muscle-head from the 60s (sorry "old farts" ) are going to know how it feels to drive a car with a large cam and a stock converter and they might say "it's liveable". Everything is subjective and there's 100 opinions for everything.
We're hoping to offer this with as close to stock like driveability as possible. That's why we've taken so long to bring it to the table (among a few parameters that were missing, but they were necessary for driveability and idle quality). We wanted to refine it the best we could before offering it up to the public. You can see how widespread the panic is because "it drives a little rough with an auto" becomes "you're crazy, i heard its completely #@%'!ed on an auto" with a little whisper down the lane.
Here's another part of the whole "will this be available with the Street, Performance or Race" saga. In order to keep from having "bucking" or "bogging" with this, the throttle response needs to be fairly aggressive so it can rev up a little more on take-off to compensate. Basically, it's like driving an automatic car that has a cam too big for the stock converter, not being a smart ***. The manual is better, because they just go a little heavier on the right foot and a little softer on the left foot - problem solved!
So it might have to be something where it's only available on the Race tune in that respect.
People are expecting this thing to come out and have perfect stock-like driveability, when that's just never going to happen... regardless of the tuning. It's going to be DECENT, but even "good" or "decent" or "bad" driveability is subjective. A young punk kid (like me ) is going to think it "drives like **** compared to my dads 03 cobra with cams". An experienced muscle-head from the 60s (sorry "old farts" ) are going to know how it feels to drive a car with a large cam and a stock converter and they might say "it's liveable". Everything is subjective and there's 100 opinions for everything.
We're hoping to offer this with as close to stock like driveability as possible. That's why we've taken so long to bring it to the table (among a few parameters that were missing, but they were necessary for driveability and idle quality). We wanted to refine it the best we could before offering it up to the public. You can see how widespread the panic is because "it drives a little rough with an auto" becomes "you're crazy, i heard its completely #@%'!ed on an auto" with a little whisper down the lane.
4/6/11, 10:08 AM
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A few more answers from the other threads...
RadarDoc:Is the ghost cam recommended only if you're running an off-road pipe?
So, Ford is running this with the Boss, but the "lope" is much more conservative. I think this is probably a novelty to run on the weekends, and nobody really had a good answer to what the affect would be if run every single day for thousands of miles. A high flow set of cats or an off-road setup would put minds to ease, for sure. Whether or not it's recommended, I can't tell yet.
I do know that even with an off-road pipe, the car wasn't like "dumping" fuel or anything, so I don't think it'll be an issue at all, and the air/fuel ratio at the factory wideband sensors doesn't reflect any problems either. That alone puts most of my mind at ease.
orgchem: It would be awesome to have it available on all three tunes , but understood if that isn't feasible.
Thank you for your understanding! We'll probably have it so that it CAN be done on any of the tunes by request, but only recommend it on the Race for Automatics. We'll see... but either way I appreciate the realistic expectations!
RADR LUV: Chris,
As always I appreciate the ground truth and thorough update. I know all can't wait to get their hands on it. Thanks again for the great support.
Thank you, I'm glad you asked the question! We were a little late to the game getting this out there, so we want to make sure that we're the best at just being up-front. It was under heavy demand, so we had to act on it!
Originally Posted by AMChrisRose
RadarDoc:Is the ghost cam recommended only if you're running an off-road pipe?
So, Ford is running this with the Boss, but the "lope" is much more conservative. I think this is probably a novelty to run on the weekends, and nobody really had a good answer to what the affect would be if run every single day for thousands of miles. A high flow set of cats or an off-road setup would put minds to ease, for sure. Whether or not it's recommended, I can't tell yet.
I do know that even with an off-road pipe, the car wasn't like "dumping" fuel or anything, so I don't think it'll be an issue at all, and the air/fuel ratio at the factory wideband sensors doesn't reflect any problems either. That alone puts most of my mind at ease.
orgchem: It would be awesome to have it available on all three tunes , but understood if that isn't feasible.
Thank you for your understanding! We'll probably have it so that it CAN be done on any of the tunes by request, but only recommend it on the Race for Automatics. We'll see... but either way I appreciate the realistic expectations!
RADR LUV: Chris,
As always I appreciate the ground truth and thorough update. I know all can't wait to get their hands on it. Thanks again for the great support.
Thank you, I'm glad you asked the question! We were a little late to the game getting this out there, so we want to make sure that we're the best at just being up-front. It was under heavy demand, so we had to act on it!
4/6/11, 10:11 AM
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And one final quote...
rjone15: was looking to get a tune for my car and had a question for you
i see where you said that this tune will only give you the sound and wont increase or decrease the performance, but were thinking of including it in all 3 tunes
is this "cammed" tune simply just something that you added to the previous tunes that people already had? because my main reason for a tune is performance increase, the extra sound part will be a bonus
eta: sorry for the noob question
Perfectly reasonable question, and I'm sorry for the confusion.
What I meant by you wont see an increase or decrease in performance was simply meant to describe this particular feature or characteristic of the tune. You'll still get the full horsepower and torque increase that you would get with our Street/Performance/Race tunes. The addition of the Ghost Cams feature to these tunes just will not add or subtract anything from that point.
rjone15: was looking to get a tune for my car and had a question for you
i see where you said that this tune will only give you the sound and wont increase or decrease the performance, but were thinking of including it in all 3 tunes
is this "cammed" tune simply just something that you added to the previous tunes that people already had? because my main reason for a tune is performance increase, the extra sound part will be a bonus
eta: sorry for the noob question
Perfectly reasonable question, and I'm sorry for the confusion.
What I meant by you wont see an increase or decrease in performance was simply meant to describe this particular feature or characteristic of the tune. You'll still get the full horsepower and torque increase that you would get with our Street/Performance/Race tunes. The addition of the Ghost Cams feature to these tunes just will not add or subtract anything from that point.
4/6/11, 02:54 PM
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Overlap (and "5th cycle") has been used for a loooong time. That we can now dial it in at certain rpm's via ECU controlled hydraulics is just the natural technological evolution of an old time tested performance technique. It is not some secret magic.
Tweaking the tune so we hear the lope at idle - where it doesn't add any performance - is just to reminisce the old days where the thumper cams were used for high rpm performance, but without variable valve timing back then, caused the rough sound at idle.
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4/18/11, 11:14 AM
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4/24/11, 11:07 AM
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As of Friday when I called, no 
. I'm getting so anxious - I bought BAMA tunes just to get the cam idle when they said it was only a week away, but unfortunately that didn't happen.
Can't say it's a bad thing though. From what I've been reading, tons of people have given up on the Lund cammed tune due to check engine lights and the like - if AM is working to keep that from happening to us, they should take all the time they need.
. I'm getting so anxious - I bought BAMA tunes just to get the cam idle when they said it was only a week away, but unfortunately that didn't happen.Can't say it's a bad thing though. From what I've been reading, tons of people have given up on the Lund cammed tune due to check engine lights and the like - if AM is working to keep that from happening to us, they should take all the time they need.
4/25/11, 04:07 PM
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As of Friday when I called, no . I'm getting so anxious - I bought BAMA tunes just to get the cam idle when they said it was only a week away, but unfortunately that didn't happen.
Can't say it's a bad thing though. From what I've been reading, tons of people have given up on the Lund cammed tune due to check engine lights and the like - if AM is working to keep that from happening to us, they should take all the time they need.
. I'm getting so anxious - I bought BAMA tunes just to get the cam idle when they said it was only a week away, but unfortunately that didn't happen.Can't say it's a bad thing though. From what I've been reading, tons of people have given up on the Lund cammed tune due to check engine lights and the like - if AM is working to keep that from happening to us, they should take all the time they need.
4/26/11, 12:22 AM
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Exactly right. Which is why there'd be nothing wrong with getting one from Jon Lund since he's had the ability to create these tunes far before anyone else, and now everyone else is scrambling to get theirs on the market in order to not get left behind.