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Old Mar 4, 2015 | 06:05 PM
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Interesting when I spoke to the engineer he said 8. Either way the biggest change is throttle response, shift points, etc.
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Old Mar 5, 2015 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 2014GHIGGT
Interesting when I spoke to the engineer he said 8. Either way the biggest change is throttle response, shift points, etc.
I find the additional torque very noticeable down low
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You made an interesting point so I followed up with FRPP regarding the hp/tq increase on the 2013/14 cars.
They confirmed the gains are for all years.
The chat I had with them is attached.
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Old Mar 5, 2015 | 11:39 AM
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I agree that the tq is very noticeable. And the hp is very noticeable up top. The +16hp is on both models since the difference between the 412 motor and the 420 is not tune related. Here is a stock vs FFRP tune dyno. You can see that it is also much smoother power.
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Old Mar 5, 2015 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by typesredline
I agree that the tq is very noticeable. And the hp is very noticeable up top. The +16hp is on both models since the difference between the 412 motor and the 420 is not tune related. Here is a stock vs FFRP tune dyno. You can see that it is also much smoother power.
I still don't see how 16HP on a 420HP motor makes much of a difference. That is about a 3% increase. But I am glad you notice it. The torque in theory is a bigger gain however I did not feel that much. That being said such a small gain to me is not worth it.

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Old Mar 6, 2015 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 14stangGT
I still don't see how 16HP on a 420HP motor makes much of a difference. That is about a 3% increase. But I am glad you notice it. The torque in theory is a bigger gain however I did not feel that much. That being said such a small gain to me is not worth it.
It's not always about peak power gains. That's why I posted the dyno. It's a gain throughout the whole band. At this point, with just the tune, even if I roll into the throttle in second gear, I lose the back end a bit. So I'm sure I don't speak for everyone, but anymore power and I'd be terrified to drive it. Lol
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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by boss man
$480 for 8hp? save your money and take the wife or girlfriend or both out to dinner and have a better time after you get home. If its all about warranty, Just wait the five years for the tune. You can start with doing suppenision & tires up-grades. So when the time comes, you can down load a Good tune. Your stang will be ready for that power upgrade. To be honest: There are some really good tunes that are safe out there. Just my 2 cents. First deciede which direction you want to go with you car. Install parts that fit your need. Power should be added towards the end and go from there to make a full package for your car. Enjoy your ride!!
Well said. Sushi and oysters will have more "power gain" for later after the date, if you know what I mean lol
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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by FromZto5
Well said. Sushi and oysters will have more "power gain" for later after the date, if you know what I mean lol
I got you!!!
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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 12:12 PM
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PC is about how the car feels. The factory tune is soft down low, has tons of rev hang and skip shift on the 11-12s. All of this goes away and the car feels like 400+ HP should feel. It's about daily enjoyment, not elusive dyno #s.

That said, dragstrip dyno confirms my feelings are backed up by real performance. I've seen many B***, S****a, etc. tuned cars at the track that don't do as well as mine, even on 93 tunes.

It isn't for everyone but, I paid $280 and $50 to "install" it, at a dealer so, that's good value. The car is just out of it's B2B warranty now and nothing appears to be in distress in the driveline or motor.
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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 12:15 PM
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To anyone that has purchased this, are you able to set tire size with this to correct your speedo?
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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 03:33 PM
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Yes you can set the rev/mi to anything you like.
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Old Mar 10, 2015 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by GrabberBlue5.0
12.5 isn't really all that impressive.

Actually it kinda is for a basically stock 3600lb car... Best I can manage at the track is 12.9. I'd love to be going 12.5! That's a noticeable difference, especially for driving feel on the street.
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