Ford Procal worth it?
2/11/15, 10:11 AM
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2/13/15, 09:38 AM
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Why is that asking for trouble? It seems to me drivetrains only break things when the tires grip real good. Wheel spin is actually easier on the drivetrain. Of course you will increase your ET but it certainly isn't asking for truoble. Not certain i follow the logic.
You're going deep into the 11's because you're running a nice converter. Without it your ET's would be much higher. The tune certainly isn't getting you to 11.2 by itself.
2/13/15, 03:29 PM
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Why is that asking for trouble? It seems to me drivetrains only break things when the tires grip real good. Wheel spin is actually easier on the drivetrain. Of course you will increase your ET but it certainly isn't asking for truoble. Not certain i follow the logic.
You're going deep into the 11's because you're running a nice converter. Without it your ET's would be much higher. The tune certainly isn't getting you to 11.2 by itself.
You're going deep into the 11's because you're running a nice converter. Without it your ET's would be much higher. The tune certainly isn't getting you to 11.2 by itself.
Correct the converter makes a huge difference. But before that I was able to run an 11.8 with a crappy 2.0 60'.
2/13/15, 05:07 PM
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Of course I'm right. What is your launch rpm? With a ton of wheel spin your mph should be higher and your ET higher. Excessive wheel spin hurts ET and increases MPH. With that MPH I don't think you're blowing off your drag radials.
The reason your street tires are like driving on ice is because your converter is flashing up real high out of the hole. That shouldn't be a big surprise.
The reason your street tires are like driving on ice is because your converter is flashing up real high out of the hole. That shouldn't be a big surprise.
2/13/15, 05:43 PM
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3/3/15, 08:23 AM
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Update. I emptied my separator and on the same tank of gas the pinging went away.
That being said the tune and ProCal alone is under $300 not 4-500, which makes it half the price of a tuner and tune from any reputable tuner.
I also disagree that it isn't night and day. Sure other tuners may add more power, but again at twice the cost and no warranty. It absolutely adds gobs of power down low and a nice amount to the top. I went from being dead even with my buddy and his e92 m3 to being a car ahead.
That being said the tune and ProCal alone is under $300 not 4-500, which makes it half the price of a tuner and tune from any reputable tuner.
I also disagree that it isn't night and day. Sure other tuners may add more power, but again at twice the cost and no warranty. It absolutely adds gobs of power down low and a nice amount to the top. I went from being dead even with my buddy and his e92 m3 to being a car ahead.
When I did the procal the only way they told me I could keep the warranty was to have the dealer install it. What a joke $139 to push a couple of buttons. So it cost me about $480 for the tune. It just depends on how much power you want to add. All in all I think theses 5.0's are great motors and pretty fun to drive regardless. I just did not notice a lot of difference with the gas I am running.
3/3/15, 11:45 AM
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What gas were you running to get pinging? Just curious. I think I have a different definition of gobs of power. I have since added a VMP GEN 2 SC that would be gobs of power
When I did the procal the only way they told me I could keep the warranty was to have the dealer install it. What a joke $139 to push a couple of buttons. So it cost me about $480 for the tune. It just depends on how much power you want to add. All in all I think theses 5.0's are great motors and pretty fun to drive regardless. I just did not notice a lot of difference with the gas I am running.
When I did the procal the only way they told me I could keep the warranty was to have the dealer install it. What a joke $139 to push a couple of buttons. So it cost me about $480 for the tune. It just depends on how much power you want to add. All in all I think theses 5.0's are great motors and pretty fun to drive regardless. I just did not notice a lot of difference with the gas I am running.
3/3/15, 01:01 PM
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$480 for 8hp? save your money and take the wife or girlfriend or both out to dinner and have a better time after you get home.
If its all about warranty, Just wait the five years for the tune. You can start with doing suppenision & tires up-grades. So when the time comes, you can down load a Good tune. Your stang will be ready for that power upgrade.
To be honest: There are some really good tunes that are safe out there.
Just my 2 cents. First deciede which direction you want to go with you car. Install parts that fit your need. Power should be added towards the end and go from there to make a full package for your car.
Enjoy your ride!!
If its all about warranty, Just wait the five years for the tune. You can start with doing suppenision & tires up-grades. So when the time comes, you can down load a Good tune. Your stang will be ready for that power upgrade.
To be honest: There are some really good tunes that are safe out there.
Just my 2 cents. First deciede which direction you want to go with you car. Install parts that fit your need. Power should be added towards the end and go from there to make a full package for your car.
Enjoy your ride!!
3/4/15, 10:47 AM
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$480 for 8hp? save your money and take the wife or girlfriend or both out to dinner and have a better time after you get home.
If its all about warranty, Just wait the five years for the tune. You can start with doing suppenision & tires up-grades. So when the time comes, you can down load a Good tune. Your stang will be ready for that power upgrade.
If its all about warranty, Just wait the five years for the tune. You can start with doing suppenision & tires up-grades. So when the time comes, you can down load a Good tune. Your stang will be ready for that power upgrade.
http://tinyurl.com/lh4ssrp
Net gains aside, it improves the driveability significantly plus you get a warranty. Why wait 5 years when you can enjoy the improvement today? $299 compared to the price of the car is nothing and you can still take the wife and / or girlfriend to dinner.
3/4/15, 03:51 PM
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I was correcting a post that stated it was 8 but I'm sure you knew that.
Obviously you're not a fan of the tune but there's a poster in this thread turning 11.91 with tires and a stick and nowhere near the mods you have. I'd say that's not too bad for what we all know is a very conservative tune.
No one buys this tune expecting maximum performance. You buy it for a bump in performance, better throttle response and the warranty. That's why I got it and I'm sure most of the people who run it bought it for the same reasons. It's a nice tune.
Obviously you're not a fan of the tune but there's a poster in this thread turning 11.91 with tires and a stick and nowhere near the mods you have. I'd say that's not too bad for what we all know is a very conservative tune.
No one buys this tune expecting maximum performance. You buy it for a bump in performance, better throttle response and the warranty. That's why I got it and I'm sure most of the people who run it bought it for the same reasons. It's a nice tune.
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3/4/15, 04:25 PM
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I was correcting a post that stated it was 8 but I'm sure you knew that. Obviously you're not a fan of the tune but there's a poster in this thread turning 11.91 with tires and a stick and nowhere near the mods you have. I'd say that's not too bad for what we all know is a very conservative tune. No one buys this tune expecting maximum performance. You buy it for a bump in performance, better throttle response and the warranty. That's why I got it and I'm sure most of the people who run it bought it for the same reasons. It's a nice tune.
Obviously you're not a fan of the tune but there's a poster in this thread turning 11.91 with tires and a stick and nowhere near the mods you have. I'd say that's not too bad for what we all know is a very conservative tune. No one buys this tune expecting maximum performance. You buy it for a bump in performance, better throttle response and the warranty. That's why I got it and I'm sure most of the people who run it bought it for the same reasons. It's a nice tune.
3/4/15, 05:54 PM
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