^ In the future, Ford needs to make them cross drilled asap. Even Slotted would suffice. Not only better performance but better look imo.

 

Disagree. If you're going for look, that's about all they gain. Cross-drilled are prone to stress cracks on the holes themselves if you're not casting them that way, and slotted will chew up pads pretty quick. I used to think the same way, but after some research, it proved that blank rotors work just fine 99% of the time.

 

Yea, I hear a lot of mixed reviews on it... due to that reason. But to my understanding if the holes are drilled right, they dont crack. If they bevile the edge, like using a counter sink drill bit, they dont crack.. But, most cheap CD rotors aren't like that. So if Ford does it properly they'll provide better performance and yes, a better cosmetic. They will, depending on how hard one takes have brake pads that wear faster- however they'll wear more even

Everyone has an opinion on it tho. Which either supports or lessens the other ideas out there.

Upgrading to ceramic would be optimal.

 

Now if, say, Brembo offered a factory rotor upgrade to a CD or slotted rotor that was OEM quality, that's another story...

 

No opinions, just facts. Those brakes you posted are Ferrari, and they're cast like that. If it didn't make a difference going cast or drilling, they wouldn't have spent all the extra money to have them made that way. Once metal has been cast, drilling/slotting of any kind weakens the structural integrity of the rotor...period. Same reason you don't chew ice. Microfractures leading up to cracks.

 

Stating that ceramics would be optimal implies that they are cast... As those F430's are. There's no other way to make Ceramic Brakes... I'm well aware.

I said everyone has their own pros and cons to CD vs Flat Disc vs Slotted.

 

How do these Brembos withstand track abuse?

 

Oh I see. I misread. Sorry.

 

It's all good man.

 

People without Brembos look down on those with Brembos who are looking down. I know I do.

 

Do you have any idea what pads and replacement rotors cost for those big ceramic brakes like those? Well, I don't either, but IIRC it's into 4 figures, if not 5.

 

You rarely replace the pads, and never replace the rotors.

 

People with 6 piston calipers look down on people with just plain Brembos.

 

I love this post by Gary. Just goes to show there's always someone better out there. No one should be looking down on anyone else. Just enjoy what you got

 

I never had any crack on my oem slotted brakes on my prior '02 Porsche Carrera, even that I tracked my car a few times and abussed those brakes.

 

This debate comes up all the time on all kinds of forums for all kinds of cars.

Fact: You generally never see drilled rotors on road race cars (those that pound the hell out of brakes). The last time I did, one exploded (WTCC race in Morocco a few weeks ago). The holes not only weaken the rotor structure they take swept area from the pads and lessen the mass of the rotor (which is what helps dissipates heat).

Supercars aren't using the same kind of rotors we are even when they are running steel brakes. Forget carbon-ceramic that's like comparing an '82 Escort to a World Rally Car. And don't forget that the "supercars" that use steel brakes that are drilled.... well they have massive brakes, and much better weight distribution too so the work load on the fronts is not as high as say... on our cars.

 

This...

The people debating are usually only driving in the mountains, or around town and want bigger "blingier" looking brakes.

You won't find slotted or cross drilled rotors on people's cars that actually put them on track. The cheap ones are a liability, and you go through rotors and pads way too quickly for the nice ones to be fiscally worth it.

Not to mention the technological issues as to why cross-drilling and slotting started aren't nearly as much of a concern any longer with modern brake pad compounds.

 

The brembo's look a 100 times better. your gonna put some nice wheel on and see a mini brake caliper. plus the rears are black too. i love the brembo wheels. main reason i bought the package. $1600 u would be lucky to get the brembo set up under 1600, plus u get awesome wheels

 

OK, I'm with Sam on this... To paraphrase; most people who track their cars will be modding for better performance than the Brembo package provides, so unless you're competing in events where stock equipment is required (such as Sam), this package is a waste. Yes, you can sell the original parts for more money than the standard brakes, wheels and dampers, but only marginally more, and you'll never recoup what you spent on them.

I have a set of basically new take-off Brembos, which I purchased for $500 (calipers, rotors, shields and lines); Brembos just aren't worth as much as they used to be, particularly in the used market, as they're becoming much more common. Now I won't ever track my car, but my driving style and the beautiful (mostly secluded) roads that I travel frequently make it so that I prefer to have near track-like performance on my street car, hence, the Brembos. I will likewise upgrade my suspension, wheels, tires and tune (as well as some cosmetics), so that in the end, I will have spent a negligible amount more than the Brembo package and have a measurable amount of additional performance.

Of course, for those who aren't into tracking and/or modding and just want the 'top-dog' performance package (on the medium-dog model) for bragging rights, that's all good too.

 

You've just made my day, that's why i got them in the first place anyways.