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Old 1/10/16 | 10:55 AM
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6r80 swap abs problems

The Guy that did my swap has tried everything to get the u201a fault to clear with no success. I have a 2013 premium brembo and the swap parts came from a 13. We even bought a new abs module, with no success. I wish we could come up with some solution.
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The Guy that did my swap has tried everything to get the u201a fault to clear with no success. I have a 2013 premium brembo and the swap parts came from a 13. We even bought a new abs module, with no success. I wish we could come up with some solution.
Did you do a PMI on the ABS? If I recall 201a is invalid software and it needs to be pmid..
U201A:57-8B- (ABS) - Control Module Main Calibration Data - Invalid/Incompatible Software Component - Current (DTC) - Warning Lamp On,Fault is currently present, warning lamp on ((MIL), Wrench, Message Center, etc.).
You need to connect IDS and PMI the ABS to the PCM. Then that error should disappear. That is also required when using a new ABS module.
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Old 1/10/16 | 04:10 PM
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I will ask him. He has done several swaps before and they worked. He probably did that, he was putting as built data in abs somehow. Is that how he would have done that?

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Old 1/10/16 | 05:25 PM
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I will ask him. He has done several swaps before and they worked. He probably did that, he was putting as built data in abs somehow. Is that how he would have done that?
No. As-built data can be entered separately. You need to do a PMI (Program Module Initialization) which also does as built, but also marries the ABS to the PCM.

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Thanks. I sent him a message
Old 1/15/16 | 04:21 PM
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I am very happy with the auto swap.
Old 1/16/16 | 05:07 PM
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I love the 6r80. Honestly I don't know why dealers didn't order more GT auto cars. I ordered mine and am glad I did. I had a 2011 GT with the MT82 and wasn't unhappy with it, but the 6R80 is far superior IMO.
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Did that fix the ABS light. I am getting ready to do this. I have parts coming from a 13 going into a 14. Any info on the steps to get the PCM set up? That is my concern, I did the Instrument Cluster with no issues as their was step by step info. This is bits and pieces I can find. Any idea if you can ask the installer what he did with the pillow bearing that goes on the end of the crank and I think sticks out of the flywheel? Does that just get removed, or someone said they ground there's down?
Old 1/17/16 | 02:48 AM
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The pilot bearing should be removed
Old 1/17/16 | 08:06 AM
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The pilot bearing should be removed
And nothing goes there? Just remains empty? Thanks in advance.
Old 1/17/16 | 01:33 PM
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Yes. Nothing goes there with an auto. This is the bearing that supports the input shaft from your manual transmission. Since you are only bolting up a torque converter you do not need the pilot bearing. You will want to remove this prior to tightening up your torque converter. The very front of the torque converter will fit into the back of the crankshaft but only with the pilot bearing removed. If you leave that in and tighten the bell housing to the engine block, you will destroy the front pump of the automatic transmission. So in summary. You will be good provided you remove the pilot bearing. A simple slide hammer usually does the trick. I have seen some folks pack the back of the crankshaft full of grease and hammer a wooden dowel through the inner pilot bearing and the hydraulic pressure created will push the bearing right out.



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Old 1/17/16 | 05:26 PM
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Did that fix the ABS light. I am getting ready to do this. I have parts coming from a 13 going into a 14. Any info on the steps to get the PCM set up? That is my concern, I did the Instrument Cluster with no issues as their was step by step info. This is bits and pieces I can find. ?
My abs light is still on. The guy that I got the swap from is sending donor car abs module. I also have tpms fault.
Old 1/17/16 | 05:34 PM
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When I put it in reverse the backup assist pops up in the display. My car has no sensors, is the wrong as built in the cluster?
Old 1/17/16 | 05:41 PM
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My abs light is still on. The guy that I got the swap from is sending donor car abs module. I also have tpms fault.
Did you get the vacuum lines and check valve that go from the booster to the manifold for an auto car?
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The kit came with the whole booster not just the fluid reservoir. Not sure on lines
I have my manual booster on the pallet of parts that I brought home

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Old 1/17/16 | 06:00 PM
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Check out Page 3 of this Roush supercharger installation that is supplemental for an auto car. It has a great pic of the brake booster vacuum lines and aspirator. You need this on an auto car. You just don't run a vacuum line to the booster like on a manual car. You may not be getting enough vacuum to the booster and it may cause an ABS issue. It's worth a try.

http://www.jegs.com/InstallationInst...832-421277.pdf
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It has none of that, just one vacuum line to the booster. But the ABS fault is all the time before you even start the engine. I asked about the checkvalve before we did the swap and was told it was not needed.
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It has none of that, just one vacuum line to the booster. But the ABS fault is all the time before you even start the engine. I asked about the checkvalve before we did the swap and was told it was not needed.
The aspirator must be there for a reason otherwise Ford wouldn't have added it. I know an ABS fault code will stay lit until the condition no longer exists.

A brake vacuum aspirator for improving the performance of a brake booster in a passenger vehicle, the brake vacuum aspirator comprising: a first port for communication with an air source; a second port for communication with a second air source; a third port for communication with a vacuum source; a Venturi pump coupling the first port and the third port, the Venturi pump including a first passage having a first end in communication with the Venturi pump and a second end in communication with the second port, the first passage including a first check valve for allowing air to flow from the second port through the first passage and into the Venturi pump; and wherein the third port includes a second passage having a first end in communication with the third port and a second end in communication with the second port and the second passage including a second check valve located between the first end and the second end and wherein the second check valve operates as a bypass flow path to the first check valve in the first passage to provide a bypass flow path when the source pressure of the third port is lower than the pressure of the second port.

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Old 1/17/16 | 06:32 PM
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The aspirator must be there for a reason otherwise Ford wouldn't have added it. I know an ABS fault code will stay lit until the condition no longer exists.
I told before that U201a is incompatible software. Either PMI the ABS or take the one from the donor car of which the PCM came from.

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I will check on that. The donor car abs is on its way

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