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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 08:57 AM
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I completely disagree. The 5.0 is effectively replacing the 5.4, and the ecoboost V6 is replacing the 4.6 in the F150. As much as we like to think the Ford world revolves around our Mustangs, it actually revolves around the best selling vehicle on the planet...the F150. There is no way they would bother with designing new parts and testing etc for an engine that will only be used in a very small number of premium models. Even the Ford GT used a common engine that was already around in other volume models.

The 5.4 is also being dropped in Australia, so even on a global level the GT500 would be the only vehicle left using it? And from what we have heard, the 5.0 can make equivalent power to the 5.4 while being lighter and more efficient anyway.

Everything points to the 5.4 being gone after next year.
I totally agree here. These are mass produced engines. There'd be no reason to keep 5.4 tooling once the new gen engines are being produced. Look for some kind of whipped up 5.0 in the GT500.
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by LateralG
Music to my ears.

I'm also amused by the "Coyote can't catch the Roadrunner" implication with the names.
I picked up on that too. Ford is either very clever with their marketing techniques or were trying to be clever and had the info leaked ahead of time.

But seriously people, Wile E. Coyote vs Road Runner. Main stream cartoon from the late '80s and early '90s ... which probably links directly to the primary audience of the enthusiasts purchasing the GT's and Special Editions.

... The information being "leaked" on the internet ... the same forum which many people within their target audience uses to keep up with the latest information.

THINK ABOUT IT....

<puts tinfoil hat on>

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<replaces tinfoil with aluminum in anticipation of 2011 motors>

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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Clino
I completely disagree. The 5.0 is effectively replacing the 5.4, and the ecoboost V6 is replacing the 4.6 in the F150. As much as we like to think the Ford world revolves around our Mustangs, it actually revolves around the best selling vehicle on the planet...the F150. There is no way they would bother with designing new parts and testing etc for an engine that will only be used in a very small number of premium models. Even the Ford GT used a common engine that was already around in other volume models.

The 5.4 is also being dropped in Australia, so even on a global level the GT500 would be the only vehicle left using it? And from what we have heard, the 5.0 can make equivalent power to the 5.4 while being lighter and more efficient anyway.

Everything points to the 5.4 being gone after next year.
Wanna' bet?

Again, think of what goes into a new engine program, which is essentially what an AL-block "Condor" would be. This is Ford Motor Company we're talking about here -- there's no way they'd just stuff some old, leftover FRPP engines into an OE, albeit low-volume, vehicle program. And there's no way they'd invest their resources into a one-year-run engine program. It makes absolutely no sense.

IMO, there is no DI, twin-turbo 5.0L engine coming in the near-future. The 5.4L, especially now that it will weigh significantly less, is more than up to the job of going head-to-head with the Camaro Z28.

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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 06:58 PM
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heck i'd be happy if the shelby got the same hp just aluminum block.
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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 07S197
Piston material will make a difference in NVH? Who woulda thunk it...
The LSx motors have had a problem with piston slap since day one when using forged pistons. Its not any sort of reliability issue, just bothersome.
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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by first5.0
But seriously people, Wile E. Coyote vs Road Runner. Main stream cartoon from the late '80s and early '90s ... which probably links directly to the primary audience of the enthusiasts purchasing the GT's and Special Editions.
lol! You must be young! They were created in 1948!
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Old Oct 9, 2009 | 07:52 PM
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That's pretty funny. I remember watching in the late seventies, getting up at 6am (or earlier)on saturdays waiting for the vertical lines of color to come on and then give way to actual cartoon programming.
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 12:03 AM
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Wow... it's not like anyone has been hinting at this or anything
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 12:25 AM
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I can't see the Roadrunner just having a little extra horsepower, especially not just 25 to 50. If the horsepower difference is really that small there has to be some kind of tech that justifies a different codename. Maybe forged internals or some kind of different architecture? I am not especially engine tech savvy, but surely there must be something more than a tune to distinguish the two.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 10:21 AM
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A lot more to an engine than just HP.

...just sayin.
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
Wow... it's not like anyone has been hinting at this or anything
roflmao


Originally Posted by Dig-It Racing
So then there's no 5.0L twin-turbo (regardless of name) in the works?
Yes there is. "Bobcat" is meant for trucks, though.
Not like that's ever stopped anyone using a truck motor in a passenger vehicle in the past.

Look it up, it's an impressive unit. Enough grunt to twist the Sydney Harbour Bridge.
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by first5.0
I picked up on that too. Ford is either very clever with their marketing techniques or were trying to be clever and had the info leaked ahead of time.

But seriously people, Wile E. Coyote vs Road Runner. Main stream cartoon from the late '80s and early '90s ... which probably links directly to the primary audience of the enthusiasts purchasing the GT's and Special Editions.

... The information being "leaked" on the internet ... the same forum which many people within their target audience uses to keep up with the latest information.

THINK ABOUT IT....

<puts tinfoil hat on>

edit*
<replaces tinfoil with aluminum in anticipation of 2011 motors>
Those Cartoons are accually from the 60s. IE the Plymouth Road Runner.
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Brewman
Those Cartoons are accually from the 60s. IE the Plymouth Road Runner.
Nope. Earlier =D
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 09:11 AM
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I'm just stoked about a new motor design, and thrilled about the possibility of a new BOSS 302 or 429 mustang.

I did not even know the Z28 was going back into production. The last I heard GM canceled their performance line of vehicles.

I'm just wondering if they will offer crate motors of the coyote or roadrunner in the near future.
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 04:20 PM
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The Z28 has been on again off again for a while now. I heard it was back on, then read last week it wasn't officially reconfirmed again. I'll wait until I see a concept.
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Overboost
The Z28 has been on again off again for a while now. I heard it was back on, then read last week it wasn't officially reconfirmed again. I'll wait until I see a concept.
Yeah, but judging by the previous Camaro schedule, when the concept comes out, you'll still have to wait another another 4 years until it actually hits lots!
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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Jalopnik report 400 HP and a 6 speed tranny. Also a BOSS for 2012. Hope their right.


http://jalopnik.com/5351785/2011-for...+speed-gearbox
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 07:55 PM
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Uh, they got that info from here...
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 08:31 PM
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The Camaro has a great motor. The car sucks.
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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by eci
The Camaro has a great motor. The car sucks.
So nothings changed basically...
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