GT500 worth it?
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Without you knowing this was a hilarious question to ask (some on this board know why).
Yes I have driven all Shelby Variants (and not just for 5 minutes either).
2007
2008KR
2010 coupe and convert
2011 coupe and convert both base and performance package
2013 coupe and convert, base, perf and track (track is coupe only)
The performance of a 2011 GT 5.0 with the FRPP power upgrade on the street is comprable (the feeling of speed is not due to less torque in the midrange) and in my personal GT I have gone door to door with 07-11 GT500's (and not with idiots at the wheel of the GT500).
On a road course a 5.0 GT is my choice all day and over a typical 20 minute session will simply run away from the supercharged car.
The GT500 is a good car. The OP asked peoples opinion, I have a vast amount of experience with both the 5.0 powered cars and the 5.4L and 5.8L cars and I feel that a 2010 is not "worth it" compared to a 2011+ GT 5.0.
I did go on to state that a 2013 is a totally different story.
If he had said he might pulley and tune the GT500 I would have a different answer. However he did not state that so I answered the question at face value
I thought he was asking from a 11, 5.0 with mild bolt ons, versus a Shelby,
Is a FRPP power pack a SC?
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Hey everybody, i have a question for you. I currently have a 2011 gt. I have always wanted a gt500. However there is a 2010 gt500 near me that im considering getting. My question is the cost worth the performance gain? Has anybody driven these cars back to back and noticed a significant difference? Any input is welcome, thanks.
A 2010 GT500 is going to be faster than your 11 GT. So what. Do you track race? Do you need a car that has 500 HP compared to your 412 HP car. Is your car slow or something?
I'll tell you why you want a GT500. Because its the King when it comes to the mustang world. Drive down the highway in that Gt500 and people are gonna talk, stare, look at that, that's the Shelby Gt500.
Driving your 5.0 is just another 5.0 and there a dime a dozen. But not the Gt500, you don't see that many on the road and when you do, it's like looking at a pair of big hooters for the first time or any time. Your in awe.
Why do people on here always ask if something is worth it. That depends on what the person is trying to accomplish. OP, what are you trying to accomplish? Its only worth it if its that important for your ego to have a Gt500. Its the f-ing king of the mustang world. Like I said before you can make a 800 HP 5.0, at the end of the day its just a 5.0 to the guy driving next to ya.
The GT500 is a Shelby and that's the name of the car gods. No matter how much HP the car has or doesn't have bottom line, its a Shelby Gt500 and its bad a$$.
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My plan is to upgrade with about $3-5000 in go faster parts. I just didnt feel comfortable doing that in the 5.0 without upgrading the motor to withstand 600-700 HP. The shelby to my understanding can withstand 700-750 HP as long as you dont rev above 6250 RPM.
Not to mention i love the styling and the prestige of the Shelby.
My thoughts overall are that the Shelby has a much easier powerplant to work with to make big power. I wont take it on a road course, but possibly to the strip on a rare ocassion. Mostly just for cruising and the ocassional right pedal fun!
Not to mention i love the styling and the prestige of the Shelby.
My thoughts overall are that the Shelby has a much easier powerplant to work with to make big power. I wont take it on a road course, but possibly to the strip on a rare ocassion. Mostly just for cruising and the ocassional right pedal fun!
I was refering to a mild bolt on 5.0 car mine (with stock heads, cams, intake manifold and exhaust manifold/headers) is putting 430 to the tire and weighs noticably less than the 2010 GT500.
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People are forgetting on here that the 2010 GT500 doesn't have 500hp. It has 540hp. Ford gave it the tune and factory open CAI that was from the KR models the previous years. The difference between the 5.0 and GT500 for the years the OP is comparing is even greater. I'd go with the Shelby if it were me.
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People are forgetting on here that the 2010 GT500 doesn't have 500hp. It has 540hp. Ford gave it the tune and factory open CAI that was from the KR models the previous years. The difference between the 5.0 and GT500 for the years the OP is comparing is even greater. I'd go with the Shelby if it were me.
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In order to ask the opinion of is buying a 2010 Gt500 worth it in terms of performance but in doing so one must sell there perfectly good, very fast, sexy a$$ looking 412 HP 5.0 in order to make the purchase. Doesn't that really depend on what a person is looking for in the vehicle. The OP indicated they always wanted a GT500, then respectfully why buy the 5.0 to begin with
The GT500 is worth the money for two reasons. First, you want the bragging rights to tell people you have the top dog, king of the mustangs. You have a Shelby Gt500. I bet just thinking about that gives many people a stiff one. Its like taken Viagra. Your the man. Second, the Gt500 is easier and has more potential to make much higher HP compared to the 5.0. Is the OP looking for a 800 HP car down the road.
If you just want your 5.0 to be faster then, you could do a number of bolt on mods that would make that 5.0 more powerful. A 2010 gt500 has 540 HP and that certainly would not be hard to far exceed when your working with a car that has 412 HP from the start.
But I can tell about the OP, its not about making the 5.0 faster because no matter how fast, how much HP that 5.0 has with mods it will never, ever be the Shelby Gt500. No different than my V6 model. I could put a Turbo charger in there, run 30 psi boost, make 700 HP and at the end of the day, its just a V6. In the eyes of conversation when I tell someone I have a mustang and they ask is it a 5.0. I say nope V6 and they think less. The sixer ain't no 5.0 regardless of how fast that sixer is. The 5.0 ain't no Shelby Gt500.
The GT500 is worth the money for two reasons. First, you want the bragging rights to tell people you have the top dog, king of the mustangs. You have a Shelby Gt500. I bet just thinking about that gives many people a stiff one. Its like taken Viagra. Your the man. Second, the Gt500 is easier and has more potential to make much higher HP compared to the 5.0. Is the OP looking for a 800 HP car down the road.
If you just want your 5.0 to be faster then, you could do a number of bolt on mods that would make that 5.0 more powerful. A 2010 gt500 has 540 HP and that certainly would not be hard to far exceed when your working with a car that has 412 HP from the start.
But I can tell about the OP, its not about making the 5.0 faster because no matter how fast, how much HP that 5.0 has with mods it will never, ever be the Shelby Gt500. No different than my V6 model. I could put a Turbo charger in there, run 30 psi boost, make 700 HP and at the end of the day, its just a V6. In the eyes of conversation when I tell someone I have a mustang and they ask is it a 5.0. I say nope V6 and they think less. The sixer ain't no 5.0 regardless of how fast that sixer is. The 5.0 ain't no Shelby Gt500.
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In order to ask the opinion of is buying a 2010 Gt500 worth it in terms of performance but in doing so one must sell there perfectly good, very fast, sexy a$$ looking 412 HP 5.0 in order to make the purchase. Doesn't that really depend on what a person is looking for in the vehicle. The OP indicated they always wanted a GT500, then respectfully why buy the 5.0 to begin with
The GT500 is worth the money for two reasons. First, you want the bragging rights to tell people you have the top dog, king of the mustangs. You have a Shelby Gt500. I bet just thinking about that gives many people a stiff one. Its like taken Viagra. Your the man. Second, the Gt500 is easier and has more potential to make much higher HP compared to the 5.0. Is the OP looking for a 800 HP car down the road.
If you just want your 5.0 to be faster then, you could do a number of bolt on mods that would make that 5.0 more powerful. A 2010 gt500 has 540 HP and that certainly would not be hard to far exceed when your working with a car that has 412 HP from the start.
But I can tell about the OP, its not about making the 5.0 faster because no matter how fast, how much HP that 5.0 has with mods it will never, ever be the Shelby Gt500. No different than my V6 model. I could put a Turbo charger in there, run 30 psi boost, make 700 HP and at the end of the day, its just a V6. In the eyes of conversation when I tell someone I have a mustang and they ask is it a 5.0. I say nope V6 and they think less. The sixer ain't no 5.0 regardless of how fast that sixer is. The 5.0 ain't no Shelby Gt500.
The GT500 is worth the money for two reasons. First, you want the bragging rights to tell people you have the top dog, king of the mustangs. You have a Shelby Gt500. I bet just thinking about that gives many people a stiff one. Its like taken Viagra. Your the man. Second, the Gt500 is easier and has more potential to make much higher HP compared to the 5.0. Is the OP looking for a 800 HP car down the road.
If you just want your 5.0 to be faster then, you could do a number of bolt on mods that would make that 5.0 more powerful. A 2010 gt500 has 540 HP and that certainly would not be hard to far exceed when your working with a car that has 412 HP from the start.
But I can tell about the OP, its not about making the 5.0 faster because no matter how fast, how much HP that 5.0 has with mods it will never, ever be the Shelby Gt500. No different than my V6 model. I could put a Turbo charger in there, run 30 psi boost, make 700 HP and at the end of the day, its just a V6. In the eyes of conversation when I tell someone I have a mustang and they ask is it a 5.0. I say nope V6 and they think less. The sixer ain't no 5.0 regardless of how fast that sixer is. The 5.0 ain't no Shelby Gt500.
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@ kona blue, your absolutely right about a couple things. I have always wanted a gt500 but thought going with a more economical 5.0 would satisfy the thirst.... I was wrong. Your right i really just want the gt500.
The reason i didnt get it was cause i couldnt financially afford it at the time. Now its an option for me.
I do however want something with big power (700-800). I dont want to drop 5-10k into the 5.0 if i am going to still itch for a gt500.
I buy cars cause i like that specific car; not so others can see i have the car. I personally could care less about what others think about my cars.
Just like everyone else here i like mustangs, i just want to make sure before i spend the big bucks that the car wont disappoint, does that make sense?
The reason i didnt get it was cause i couldnt financially afford it at the time. Now its an option for me.
I do however want something with big power (700-800). I dont want to drop 5-10k into the 5.0 if i am going to still itch for a gt500.
I buy cars cause i like that specific car; not so others can see i have the car. I personally could care less about what others think about my cars.
Just like everyone else here i like mustangs, i just want to make sure before i spend the big bucks that the car wont disappoint, does that make sense?
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I'm in a pretty unique position here to have done both.
And either way its fun.
Are either of them worth it?
Sometimes no and sometimes yes. It's an indulgence. Nobody needs a Shelby or a GT on boost. For me I did the work on the GT myself and enjoyed it. I love doing stuff with my hands. I love doing new things I didn't know how to do before. That was half the fun. If you're gonna sweat the money then no neither of them are worth it. You can't enjoy it if you're thinking about how you just wasted a year of your kids college tuition. That sucks the life out of it.
I'm not saying to be irresponsible. Quite the contrary. I'm saying be responsible. Make sure you're the kind if person that can live with sinking money into a car that will only go down in value or sinking more money in a car that will also go down in value but at a lesser rate. Still costing more up front so in the end it's about the same.
And either way its fun.
Are either of them worth it?
Sometimes no and sometimes yes. It's an indulgence. Nobody needs a Shelby or a GT on boost. For me I did the work on the GT myself and enjoyed it. I love doing stuff with my hands. I love doing new things I didn't know how to do before. That was half the fun. If you're gonna sweat the money then no neither of them are worth it. You can't enjoy it if you're thinking about how you just wasted a year of your kids college tuition. That sucks the life out of it.
I'm not saying to be irresponsible. Quite the contrary. I'm saying be responsible. Make sure you're the kind if person that can live with sinking money into a car that will only go down in value or sinking more money in a car that will also go down in value but at a lesser rate. Still costing more up front so in the end it's about the same.
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@ kona blue, your absolutely right about a couple things. I have always wanted a gt500 but thought going with a more economical 5.0 would satisfy the thirst.... I was wrong. Your right i really just want the gt500.
The reason i didnt get it was cause i couldnt financially afford it at the time. Now its an option for me.
I do however want something with big power (700-800). I dont want to drop 5-10k into the 5.0 if i am going to still itch for a gt500.
I buy cars cause i like that specific car; not so others can see i have the car. I personally could care less about what others think about my cars.
Just like everyone else here i like mustangs, i just want to make sure before i spend the big bucks that the car wont disappoint, does that make sense?
The reason i didnt get it was cause i couldnt financially afford it at the time. Now its an option for me.
I do however want something with big power (700-800). I dont want to drop 5-10k into the 5.0 if i am going to still itch for a gt500.
I buy cars cause i like that specific car; not so others can see i have the car. I personally could care less about what others think about my cars.
Just like everyone else here i like mustangs, i just want to make sure before i spend the big bucks that the car wont disappoint, does that make sense?
But, you need to pull the trigger on a Gt500. Lol
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For me it was a easy decision. Back in May 2010 I walked into a local Ford dealer to drive a 2011 5.0. I took out one that had the track pak...the car was very nice. Good ride, handled nice, sounded great and the 5.0 is a very nice responsive motor. I didn't care for the shifter that much. But a great car overall.....then I saw the row of 2010 GT500's. My sales guy grabbed a set of keys and we were off. Right away I had a perma-grin on my face. Far more responsive car than the GT....and the shifter felt much nicer. It was a better overall car for me and with the '11's starting to hit the dealers they were motivated to deal on the 2010 GT500. So as fate would have it I drove home later that evening in my nice new 2010 grabber blue GT500 and I still own and enjoy this car!! It still puts a big grin on my face every time I drive it!!
My avatar pic is my GT500 at the dealer when I went to pick it up.
My avatar pic is my GT500 at the dealer when I went to pick it up.
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I'd skip the 2010 GT500 for that price and try to get the aluminum block 11 or 12. There should be a number of them around for under $40K.
The other thing you may want to consider is that for about another $10K more, you could pick up a 2013 GT500 with another 100bhp.
The other thing you may want to consider is that for about another $10K more, you could pick up a 2013 GT500 with another 100bhp.
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People are forgetting on here that the 2010 GT500 doesn't have 500hp. It has 540hp. Ford gave it the tune and factory open CAI that was from the KR models the previous years. The difference between the 5.0 and GT500 for the years the OP is comparing is even greater. I'd go with the Shelby if it were me.
btw, how are you doing Jeff? You've been quiet lately.
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OP, The real question is not if the cost is worth the GT500 for the performance gains. You need to ask yourself how bad do you want a GT500 and how much is it worth to you. You said you always wanted a GT500. WHY????. Why have you always wanted this car. Its looks like a mustang just like your 5.0! So, why do you want the GT500 when you have a perfectly hot looking 5.0 that has 412 HP and is more than fast.
A 2010 GT500 is going to be faster than your 11 GT. So what. Do you track race? Do you need a car that has 500 HP compared to your 412 HP car. Is your car slow or something?
I'll tell you why you want a GT500. Because its the King when it comes to the mustang world. Drive down the highway in that Gt500 and people are gonna talk, stare, look at that, that's the Shelby Gt500.
Driving your 5.0 is just another 5.0 and there a dime a dozen. But not the Gt500, you don't see that many on the road and when you do, it's like looking at a pair of big hooters for the first time or any time. Your in awe.
Why do people on here always ask if something is worth it. That depends on what the person is trying to accomplish. OP, what are you trying to accomplish? Its only worth it if its that important for your ego to have a Gt500. Its the f-ing king of the mustang world. Like I said before you can make a 800 HP 5.0, at the end of the day its just a 5.0 to the guy driving next to ya.
The GT500 is a Shelby and that's the name of the car gods. No matter how much HP the car has or doesn't have bottom line, its a Shelby Gt500 and its bad a$$.
A 2010 GT500 is going to be faster than your 11 GT. So what. Do you track race? Do you need a car that has 500 HP compared to your 412 HP car. Is your car slow or something?
I'll tell you why you want a GT500. Because its the King when it comes to the mustang world. Drive down the highway in that Gt500 and people are gonna talk, stare, look at that, that's the Shelby Gt500.
Driving your 5.0 is just another 5.0 and there a dime a dozen. But not the Gt500, you don't see that many on the road and when you do, it's like looking at a pair of big hooters for the first time or any time. Your in awe.
Why do people on here always ask if something is worth it. That depends on what the person is trying to accomplish. OP, what are you trying to accomplish? Its only worth it if its that important for your ego to have a Gt500. Its the f-ing king of the mustang world. Like I said before you can make a 800 HP 5.0, at the end of the day its just a 5.0 to the guy driving next to ya.
The GT500 is a Shelby and that's the name of the car gods. No matter how much HP the car has or doesn't have bottom line, its a Shelby Gt500 and its bad a$$.