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GT500 Vs. ZL1 MotorTrend straight line #'s side by side

Old May 21, 2012 | 09:04 AM
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GT500 Vs. ZL1 MotorTrend straight line #'s side by side

GT500 vs. ZL1 by the Numbers
Motortrend is the first media outlet to provide straight-line performance numbers of both the cars.
Keep in mind these results were not on the same day or even the same part of the country (ZL1 test was in Arizona) but the numbers speak for themselves.


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Old May 21, 2012 | 09:15 AM
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Won't be cruising the freeway in 6th gear any time soon.......
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Old May 21, 2012 | 09:36 AM
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I assume the increased 'price as tested' includes the SVT PP?
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Old May 21, 2012 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by cdynaco
I assume the increased 'price as tested' includes the SVT PP?
That package is only around 3500 thats far from 10k extra lol- it might have had the Track pack also with the recaros- the only thing missing would be electronics package.
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Old May 21, 2012 | 09:55 AM
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Why would they charge extra for recaros? I can promise you that the oem seats cost more to build than the recaros. Their really getting over on people for those.
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Old May 21, 2012 | 09:59 AM
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i can see the camaro fans saying- ill race you to 30 mph lmao
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Old May 21, 2012 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by cdynaco
I assume the increased 'price as tested' includes the SVT PP?
Everything except the Sound System, Electronics Package, and the Moon Roof will cost you $63,455....at least that is what my MSRP window sticker says
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Old May 21, 2012 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
Why would they charge extra for recaros? I can promise you that the oem seats cost more to build than the recaros. Their really getting over on people for those.
You sure about that? They make ALOT more Mustangs with the OEM seats vs the ones with Recaros. The GT500 std seat is a GT seat with better foam padding for bolstering and different covering. The Recaro is a full specialty seat. I'm sure the standard seat is cheaper since they buy more of them in bulk than the Recaro.

Hey Shaun, can you answer this for us.
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Old May 21, 2012 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 05fordgt

You sure about that? They make ALOT more Mustangs with the OEM seats vs the ones with Recaros. The GT500 std seat is a GT seat with better foam padding for bolstering and different covering. The Recaro is a full specialty seat. I'm sure the standard seat is cheaper since they buy more of them in bulk than the Recaro.

Hey Shaun, can you answer this for us.
Pretty sure it's the same recaro seat they been making for years. Different coverings. Oem seats, at least the deluxe power seats are not cheap. Power GT seats are gonna cost way more to build than those recaros. But I'm sure there is a major markup from recaro anyways.
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Old May 21, 2012 | 11:58 AM
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I can't wait to see MM&FF or 5.0&SF get their hands on this
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Old May 21, 2012 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra

Pretty sure it's the same recaro seat they been making for years. Different coverings. Oem seats, at least the deluxe power seats are not cheap. Power GT seats are gonna cost way more to build than those recaros. But I'm sure there is a major markup from recaro anyways.
Economies of scale are an amazing thing.......

The seat debuted last model year (2012) and it was a new seat that is low volume (this affects parts and labor costs).
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Old May 21, 2012 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Stinger1982

Economies of scale are an amazing thing.......

The seat debuted last model year (2012) and it was a new seat that is low volume (this affects parts and labor costs).
The new GT500 recaro is a beautiful seat. Don't get me wrong. But they are all the same exact recaro sport line seats they have been selling for years. With different upholstery of course. I would love to see the retail on a complete leather oem seat from Ford. My point is that people are paying more money for a truly cheaper seat. You can pick up a cloth recaro sport line for about $500-600.
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Old May 21, 2012 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra

The new GT500 recaro is a beautiful seat. Don't get me wrong. But they are all the same exact recaro sport line seats they have been selling for years. With different upholstery of course. I would love to see the retail on a complete leather oem seat from Ford. My point is that people are paying more money for a truly cheaper seat. You can pick up a cloth recaro sport line for about $500-600.
This is not an off the shelf Recaro it was co-Devolped by Recaro and SVT.
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Old May 21, 2012 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Stinger1982

This is not an off the shelf Recaro it was co-Devolped by Recaro and SVT.
Yeah ok.

The only thing they had to do was make a seat track to fit it. It's the same seat man. Just saying that it shouldn't be an upgrade paid option is all. Especially when it comes to leather oem to recaro option.
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Old May 21, 2012 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
Yeah ok.

The only thing they had to do was make a seat track to fit it. It's the same seat man. Just saying that it shouldn't be an upgrade paid option is all. Especially when it comes to leather oem to recaro option.

This is not the case. This seat was devolped ground up for the Mustang program and even has it's own bespoke frame (not track but FRAME) for the Mustang plus it has side airbag, Occupant classification system, provisions for seat belt pre tensioners and if you put this seat next to the seat you think its you will find the bolsters are a different shape, size and location......

Further more regardless of what you believe there is a cost differencial

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Old May 21, 2012 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Stinger1982

This is not the case. This seat was devolped ground up for the Mustang program and even has it's own bespoke frame (not track but FRAME) for the Mustang plus it has side airbag, Occupant classification system, provisions for seat belt pre tensioners and if you put this seat next to the seat you think its you will find the bolsters are a different shape, size and location......

Further more regardless of what you believe there is a cost differencial
Side airbags and pretensioners are available on all seats though. I'm just talking about production cost options which I'm betting are the same of not lower on the oem leather seat. Especially with power options. This is GT and Boss seat options mostly. The Shelby recaros are friggen awesome but basically just better upholstery.
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Old May 21, 2012 | 02:51 PM
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Those numbers kinda kill the excitement before anyone even gets them on the same track together. Put the same driver in both cars, and I'd bet my house the GT500 is the class of the show. Those numbers are much more one-sided than I expected. Also, to me the most impressive number is the brake distance from 60-0. That's less than 35 yards on a football field. Those are some big *** brakes.
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Old May 21, 2012 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
I would love to see the retail on a complete leather oem seat from Ford. .
Since you don't know, and you don't see all the *** that goes on behind the scenes, and don't REALLY know what the difference is...You THINK you do.

That's about where it ends.

Back to discussing the car.
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Old May 21, 2012 | 11:21 PM
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Good lord that's some serious braking power! This is an incredible GT500. Can't wait for more comparisons and lightning lap.
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Old May 21, 2012 | 11:55 PM
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The braking performance has more to do with how well the tires grip the road, well for magazine tests anyways. I've been told the tires used on the GT500 aren't all that different from the tires used on the ZL1 which I suspect are really sticky - moreso than your average high performance summer tire.
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