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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MRGTX
It would be cool if it was a tall deck Coyote based motor.
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Or a 5.4 mod with a slightly bigger bore, that'd improve both airflow and keep piston speed from creeping up.

And nice to see a Mustang at the ring, if for no other reason than publicity. Also great for improving the heat soak issue that is the GT500's achille's heel.

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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by kn7671
I would suspect that we are more than likely seeing Ford doing platform testing in a current mule. We see other manufacturers do this all the time, as they have to prove/test new engines, suspensions, and brakes somewhere.

What might surprise everyone is that they could be testing a 3.7L High Output Twin Turbo engine.

I don't think the market will forgive them for another round of solid axle only Mustangs with large displacement SuperCharged applications. Ford has already committed to installing EcoBoost options in 80% of their cars by 2013, and higher by 2014.

One thing's for sure, changes are coming!
I agree, its time to ditch the Live axle. Ford is going for the one model around the world motto. A live axle stang wouldnt survive in europe.

I know i wont be picking up another stang if the next gen sticks with a live axle.
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by foolio2k4
I agree, its time to ditch the Live axle. Ford is going for the one model around the world motto. A live axle stang wouldnt survive in europe.

I know i wont be picking up another stang if the next gen sticks with a live axle.

Firstly, I suspect the most recent spyshots are of the '13 model, NOT the '15 all new car.

If they really were testing the all new underpinnings, I would imagine they'd struggle to fit it under the current body without a fair amount of cutting and shutting.

It's widely expected the all new car will sport and independent rear end but there's no reason to believe a live axle Stang wouldn't survive in Europe. Those of us that already own them will confirm a SRA is NOT a handicap in real handling terms, but it could be a handicap in terms of potential sales to owners of existing European cars. Too many Jeremy Clarkson deciples spouting rubbish about how poor the Mustang's suspension design is has sullied its reputation over here. Even true petrolheads, who really should know better, have been suckered into that way of thinking.

The bigger stumbling block for sales in the UK, I believe, will be LHD. I know the recent Auto Express article (posted in the 2014 section, where these comments should be posted) have said the new car will have RHD but, just like the Camaro, I can't see the numbers stacking up enough for RHD Mustangs to be produced. That's fine for us current owners that know LHD isn't an issue, but even I was wary before I bought my car.


Now - back to the '13MY.......I wanna see more spyshots of the '13GT with it's GT500 inspired nose
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 01:53 AM
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Motor trend spy cams nabbed a few pics. Theres one with a red Shelby with small fins on the front bumper for more downforce and you can notice the larger cooling pipes. They are possibly testing a new motor or at least a new intercooler or new cooling options to help combat the heatsoak problem
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 02:33 PM
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Anyone notice the brakes? The rears are obviously larger, and if you enlarge the pic the front rotors kind of look like they may be carbon ceramic.

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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Rather B.Blown
Anyone notice the brakes? The rears are obviously larger, and if you enlarge the pic the front rotors kind of look like they may be carbon ceramic.
That's a good catch. Hard to tell with the front brakes but maybe
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Leo93
That's a good catch. Hard to tell with the front brakes but maybe
i agree the brakes look bigger but i dont think they are ceramic, dont those usually glow bright red under braking?
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 05:13 PM
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If those are 20 inch svtpp wheels the sure do look bigger.
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 05:25 PM
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Both the front and rear brakes are bigger. In the pic of the red car, you can more clearly see the cross drilled rotor.

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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 05:26 PM
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The rears are different for sure....



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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by xlover

i agree the brakes look bigger but i dont think they are ceramic, dont those usually glow bright red under braking?
Well once they get really heated up they do. They don't always glow bright red, look at the corvettes because they have carbon ceramic and they don't glow unless under very heavy braking
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 05:46 PM
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Bigger rear brakes, about time if you ask me. Now update the rear calipers to Brembo and call it a day.
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 05:48 PM
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If you zoom in on the front disk of the red car, I added to my post above. you will see the hardware attaching the disk to the top hat.
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Twin Turbo
It's widely expected the all new car will sport and independent rear end but there's no reason to believe a live axle Stang wouldn't survive in Europe. Those of us that already own them will confirm a SRA is NOT a handicap in real handling terms, but it could be a handicap in terms of potential sales to owners of existing European cars. Too many Jeremy Clarkson deciples spouting rubbish about how poor the Mustang's suspension design is has sullied its reputation over here. Even true petrolheads, who really should know better, have been suckered into that way of thinking.
I agree. Glad you said something. I was going to post last night. The "pinkies up" snobs that whine about the SRA need to put down the video games and learn how to drive with skill on a real road.
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 07:39 PM
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I figured with the introduction of the Boss LS a better performing SVT would not be far behind. It will be interesting to find out what its MSRP will be and if x-plan survives should its performance and suspension upgrades are substantial.

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Should a Nurburgring Edition be introduced its price would skyrocket beyond reach.

It would be nice if the COBRA name plate is brought back.
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Old Jun 12, 2011 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by newpony
Bigger rear brakes, about time if you ask me. Now update the rear calipers to Brembo and call it a day.
You can put four pot Brembos on the back easy with independent rear suspension because the axles don't slide back in forth like with solid axle.
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Old Jun 12, 2011 | 10:00 AM
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i wonder if we are looking at the current SVTPP brakes and suspension becoming the standard and a new more hard core SVTPP being added to the lineup with cross drilled fronts and larger rears.

much like they took the best elements of the 2010 track pack and incorporated it in to the std GT suspension for 2011 and added the brembo pack as an upgrade to that.
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Old Jun 12, 2011 | 10:27 AM
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Those brakes look like 6-pot fronts to me.

This is '13 stuff, not '15.
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Old Jun 12, 2011 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Overboost
Those brakes look like 6-pot fronts to me.

This is '13 stuff, not '15.
Agreed, 6-pot calipers with two-piece rotors, larger rear rotor w/ same caliper as before
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Old Jun 12, 2011 | 11:15 AM
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If this was a '15 mule, chances are the wheels and body panels wouldn't quite line up.

Bigger brakes were rumored a long time ago, but won't make it out til '13.
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