About $4K before options, actually, but you didn't hear that from me.

 

I was asked about the GG Tax at the Team Shelby website. Legally, the GG Tax must be posted per federal law (perhaps to dissuade people from buying guzzlers in the first place?). Historically, Ford doesn't post pricing in the order banks (or publically) until EPA certification is done to know if a GG Tax will be needed. Therefor, I'm assuming that the '11 is efficient enough to finally meet the minimum combined fuel economy (roughly 22 mpg combined, which is not the same combined number on the window sticker, oddly enough).

 

How the hell can it get 22 combined?

 

Combined fuel economy of: Amount
at least 22.5 mpg No tax
at least 21.5, but less than 22.5 mpg $1000
at least 20.5, but less than 21.5 mpg $1300
at least 19.5, but less than 20.5 mpg $1700
at least 18.5, but less than 19.5 mpg $2100
at least 17.5, but less than 18.5 mpg $2600
at least 16.5, but less than 17.5 mpg $3000
at least 15.5, but less than 16.5 mpg $3700
at least 14.5, but less than 15.5 mpg $4500
at least 13.5, but less than 14.5 mpg $5400
at least 12.5, but less than 13.5 mpg $6400
less than 12.5 mpg $7700


I don't remember if my GT500 was 1300 or 1000

 

The MSRP also opens up the door to cars like M3, S4, Cayman, etc. Lots more sports car competition at the 50-55K price range.

 

downhill with a backwind. and, oh yeah, turn off the engine and coast. my supercharged '07 GT gets about 12-13 mpg combined (and just 23 on the highway at 60 mph on cruise control).

 

I certainly appreciate those cars, but I like Mustangs and wouldn't consider buying a German car. There's more to allegiance than just dollars.

 

Gearing maybe? Basically the same way the Corvette avoids the GG tax?

 

I just hope the delivery and waiting time is not as painful as it was for me last year. Hopefully they will have everything ironed out and there wont be hundreds of these cars sitting at the ford plant for months. Cant wait until the weather breaks and I can get mine back out on the road.

 

The Corvette avoids it by weighing 3350 lbs for the heaviest model!

 

Wow, the Mustang continues is march out of the target markets price range. I realize the Shelby isn't for the typical buyer but it's getting pretty crazy. People just don't have the money for cars like this. Doesn't Ford notice there is HIGH unemployment nation wide with purchasing power and salaries decreasing?

You can talk about the 2011 GT350 being so much but that car is a joke. For fools who have more money then sense......AND REALLY BAD TASTE!

 

I am personally leaning towards a C6 Vette (2008+). I don't need the back seat right now and you can't touch it in terms of bang for the buck performance.

Ford has priced the GT500 too high in my opinion. Lots of great competition up at that altitude.

 

That's part of it of course, but so are the fact that 5th and 6th gears are both overdrive as I recall. The 2011 GT500 is also lighter than the 2010 GT500, so maybe weight is a part of it for the GT500 as well?

 

Don't forget aerodynamics too. The Corvette has a .28 coeffecient of drag. I believe the GT500's are .38.

 

Some people do, and unfortunately, I ain't one of 'em!

I suspect the product planners, marketing, and finance people fretted over this, but seemingly, enthusiasts are getting what they asked for in this car - lightened aluminum engine being among the chief of those. And the enthusiasts who buy this are willing to pay the price.

I keep looking at that car and wondering, with a few tweaks here and there (and MINUS the supercharger), if that would have been THE one to have. Not that I dislike the GT500, of course. A few less badges, a reworking of the lower part of the front fascia, maybe a bit more contrast on the lower rockers and rear fascia, like the 2010+s have from Ford...who knows?


Since you bought a 2010 GT500, I believe that some people might argue with you about the value of it, but clearly, you found it was worth it to you. At this point, we probably have more choices in Mustangs than in recent years ('99-'04 run), but all this proliferation of variations, and the costs for delivering them, I think we are seeing the financial impacts of this type of choice.

At any rate, the base MSRP is certainly "up there" from a purely relative standpoint. However, when you compare it to a 300-car run of 2000 Cobra Rs, I suppose it starts to make some more sense.

 

But it still LOOKS like a Vette. And as for the pricing in this economy, don't buy a GT500. It is not an everyman's car. The 2011 5.0 V8 will be more than enough for most buyers. If I can make it happen financially, the GT500 is my dream car. F**k Porsches and all the other imports.

 

GT500 is unique in it's segment. I need 4 seats and a bad ***, somewhat uncommon car. What else is there? I don't want a supersedan like a V or M5.

 

M3 coupe, which is a better daily driver than an GT500. It's a bit more expensive, but it's a lot nicer vehicle.

 

Not even comparable. Not taling performance, but I don't want a supersedan like a V or M car. The coupe is a sedan with 2 doors.

 

That can't be right, the 2010 V6 has a combined mileage of 21 MPG so it would have had a GG Tax. It has to be in reference to the highway mileage.