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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 06:17 PM
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Exclamation Inspect your pwr steer pump mounting bolts ASAP !!

Was installing some mods on the car and found the power steering pump mounting bolts loose. Total of 4 holding it on I think.

One was all the way out hitting the frame
one was loose
one is GONE
one was holding the dang thing on, if it went BOOM.
Car has only 1700 miles on it.
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 06:25 PM
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gonna go check mine now. Thanks
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Sandyman
gonna go check mine now. Thanks
Thanks for the tip-
I've had my Mustang just shy of two years and 17,600 miles. The only problems I've had were the ones covered by the TSB's (CD Player skipping, popping noise in front end) and having to replace the battery about 1500 miles ago.
I'm taking my car in for service sometime next week so I'll mention the problem you're having to my service writer to check on my car.
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 07:35 AM
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The difference is that now many Visteon and Ford UAW workers are being bought out and losing their jobs. They have no incentives to manufacture high quality products.
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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Boy that may be true Metroplex, but I sure hope you're wrong. These Mustangs have been (I believe) relatively trouble free as new platforms go.

I've always told people around my town that if Ford and the other Big Two built their cars as well as our Mustangs, there'd be no Japanese cars in this country.
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Northwest GT
I've always told people around my town that if Ford and the other Big Two built their cars as well as our Mustangs, there'd be no Japanese cars in this country.
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Northwest GT
Boy that may be true Metroplex, but I sure hope you're wrong. These Mustangs have been (I believe) relatively trouble free as new platforms go.

I've always told people around my town that if Ford and the other Big Two built their cars as well as our Mustangs, there'd be no Japanese cars in this country.
FWIW I've never heard of so many small problems with the Crown Vic / Grand Marquis / Town Car. Front clunk, groaning drivetrain, rear-end clunk, leaking brake fluid caps, smart junction boxes shorting out, grinding/noisy transmissions, and slow-to-fill gas tanks or hard to close doors to name a few of the problems for the 05-up GTs.

I think my Crown Vic just needed more power and better headlamps out of the factory
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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Did you visit web sights devoted to your Crown Vic? People always report problems so if you are on a web sight you are going to hear about it but, thousands of trouble free cars don't get mentioned.
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 06:52 AM
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I've found things that I have noticed on my car on these message boards that I would not have noticed otherwise. Like the TSB 06-9-9, I always thought it was just me having a clumsy moment with the clutch and throttle because it only hesitated when I got off the interstate and at the top of the ramp. I probably would have never even known it was a problem if I didn't see it on this board. The internet is allowing us to all find EVERY LITTLE problem in these cars, whereas we might have never noticed them otherwise. Not that loose power steering bolts are a minor problem, but you get the idea. Just my $.02
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 07:18 AM
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There are websites devoted to the Crown Vic?
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 08:04 AM
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The difference is that now many Visteon and Ford UAW workers are being bought out and losing their jobs. They have no incentives to manufacture high quality products.
It is exactly this type of thinking that has gotten the US auto industry in the situation that it is in today.

Whatever happened to people who want to do their job correctly simply because they have pride in themselves? Pride in their work? I think there are still plenty around and if the are not UAW or if they do not work for Ford or Visteon, that's too bad.
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 08:49 AM
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It is exactly this type of thinking that has gotten the US auto industry in the situation that it is in today.

Whatever happened to people who want to do their job correctly simply because they have pride in themselves? Pride in their work?
I think that happened when everything became 3 times more expensive and wages never increased.
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 08:58 AM
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UAW and Big 3 benefits are significantly better than other sectors of the industry. I heard from several Tier 1 engineers and Ford/GM engineers that they pay almost $0 for health benefits because they get an allowance (not part of their wages!) to buy whatever insurance they want. Where I work, I spend almost $2000 per year for dental, vision, health, and life insurance out of pocket.
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 09:00 AM
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Somewhere a news article I read a few months back stated that Ford/GM pay somewhere around $70-100 per employee per hour after all health benefits, overtime, and regular wages are calculated in. No wonder they can't make a profit!!
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 09:07 AM
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I heard line workers often get paid more than the engineers, or the line workers are mad they aren't paid as much as the engineers/white collared workers. Someone that worked at Romeo engine plant told me they experimented with robots for assembling the connecting rods and other rotating assemblies in the mod motors. The initial investment was "too high" at the time, but quality improved significantly! I suspect that within 5-10 years, outsourcing will be even bigger... either to foreign workers or to our new robotic overlords.
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 09:46 AM
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Whoa! good lookin out. I have to clean "Misty" up today so I'll check it out..
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by metroplex
There are websites devoted to the Crown Vic?
How about this:
http://www.crownvicsetc.com/

or

http://www.crownvic.net/ubbthreads/index.php
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by mail906
It is exactly this type of thinking that has gotten the US auto industry in the situation that it is in today.

Whatever happened to people who want to do their job correctly simply because they have pride in themselves? Pride in their work? I think there are still plenty around and if the are not UAW or if they do not work for Ford or Visteon, that's too bad.
Probably has its roots in the '70's. If they have no pride in their work, they know where the exit is... but the pay is too good! IMO, I think another problematic aspect of the UAW and most unions is the protection they grant by making it much more difficult to get rid of employees who don't meet acceptable performance standards. (I say this even though I'm a union member - not UAW - and have personally seen people abuse that fact. Also knew people from different sectors/unions telling me similar stories, so it shouldn't be any different in the case of UAW...) I think the threat of being more easily terminated would provide better "incentive" in cases where pride/good work ethic is lacking.
What the domestic automakers need is new management at that level - someone who "can find new ways to motivate" the plant workers should their "lack of faith" be found to be "disturbing".


D. or C. Vader sound perfect for the job!
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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Got a pic of where this pump is at? I'm to lazy
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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by metroplex
I heard line workers often get paid more than the engineers, or the line workers are mad they aren't paid as much as the engineers/white collared workers. Someone that worked at Romeo engine plant told me they experimented with robots for assembling the connecting rods and other rotating assemblies in the mod motors. The initial investment was "too high" at the time, but quality improved significantly! I suspect that within 5-10 years, outsourcing will be even bigger... either to foreign workers or to our new robotic overlords.
You better believe it! It's time to retire the UAW to the boneyard, IMO.

Interesting, isn't it, that the Fusion - which is made in Mexico sans the UAW - had the highest initial quality and customer satisfaction rating of any Ford EVER made. I predict that if Ford and GM want to survive, sooner or later they're going to have to either ditch the UAW or start making ALL their cars outside the USA.

Unions are the parasites of our Western society nowadays. North American corporations should look after their own employees, much as Japanese corporations do - hence there would be no need for unions anymore. The one place where unions may make sense is in China, where workers get 49 cents an hour, not $30 an hour.
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