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5/3/11, 09:04 AM

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Performance brake pads

I have a 2007 Mustang GT. I currently have stock brake pads. I have started autocross racing my car so I want some that will hold up more and increase my stopping. Suggestions???

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5/3/11, 09:10 AM

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I found this link: http://www.americanmuscle.com/cerami...frontpads.html

It seems as if Hawk is a preferred brand. Would I need the Hawk ceramic or Hawk HP Plus?

Any input is greatly appreciated!

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5/3/11, 09:25 AM

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I have also found these: http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/de...keyword=pd1081

These supposedly compare to the Hawks for a better price. Would Wagner be trustworthy?

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5/3/11, 01:55 PM

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I found this link: http://www.americanmuscle.com/cerami...frontpads.html

It seems as if Hawk is a preferred brand. Would I need the Hawk ceramic or Hawk HP Plus?

Any input is greatly appreciated!

HPS would be the minimum, HP Plus a good idea but can get to squealing and dust more than the HPS, and much much more than ceramics (Hawk ceramic are basically for less noise and dust).

http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/resul...oModClar=Coupe

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I have also found these: http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/de...keyword=pd1081

These supposedly compare to the Hawks for a better price. Would Wagner be trustworthy?

No.

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5/4/11, 06:40 AM

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Lisa, now that you are getting into this, brakes are a big system. It's not just the pads, but the rotors, fluid, cooling, and other components. You are subjecting the car to more heat and performance than an daily driver. Once you start racing it, you will find that things such as rotors are now something that you change a lot. Especially if you go to ceramics. May want to talk with some folks that have beentheredonethat so as not to reinvent the wheel (pun intended).

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5/4/11, 07:46 AM

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Quite true, especially for road racing, but for autocross you're not generally dealing with huge amounts of heat from repeatedly stopping from high speeds, like 120+ on road courses. What you want on autocross brakes is quick initial bite, especially when the rotors are cold, almost the exact opposite of the traits wanted for track driving. While a better fluid like ATE Blue or Motul 600 is a good idea, generally the rest of the system is dictated by whatever class you choose. You can go for bigger front brakes, but that will add unsprung weight and the benefit of the increased mass to absorb and dissipate heat is not really evident on short autocross runs. My advice is to start with the HP Plus pads, as they are an aggressive cold pad, maybe upgrade the fluid at the same time, and keep everything else the same. If you notice overheating (again, not too likely) then consider brake ducting first to cool the stock rotors and calipers.

Many people have tried the more aggressive race pads (Hawk DTCs or HTs) on autocross and end up chewing up the rotors (those pads work on purely friction at lower temps, don't achieve chemical rotor adhesion til much higher temps) and find they set off the ABS system.

Sam Strano is the man for autocross (multi time national champ in the S197 Mustangs) and sells Hawk, give him a call and ask what her recommends first:

http://www.stranoparts.com/partdetai...=213&ModelID=5

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5/4/11, 02:01 PM

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Keep the stock pads. Autocrossing isn't about the car, it's about the driver. Don't chase the equipment. It's better than most people give credit. Spend the money on seat time and improve your skills.

Bigger brakes and better fluid are all designed for heat mitigation. You won't have those problems in autocross. When you're ready for open track, then we'll talk about brakes.

BTW, there's another chance to run with NASA. It's May 21-22 at Talladega Gran Prix Raceway.

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5/4/11, 05:26 PM

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(But a better biting pad would help, to answer her original question -- though shoulda said, you'd probably want to swap out HP Plus to something more appropriate for the street, as they do dust and squeal a bit, and swapping pads routinely isn't for everyone).

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5/4/11, 06:48 PM

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put your money in motor mods .. would`nt getting away from a corner quicker be better than stopping at one ?

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5/4/11, 09:14 PM

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put your money in motor mods .. would`nt getting away from a corner quicker be better than stopping at one ?

neither -- getting around the corner quick is the ticket

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I really need to upgrade my brake pads, since they are still stock. I have discovered that the key to getting around a corner quick is all about your apex, not torque or brakes.

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5/5/11, 08:42 AM

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I really need to upgrade my brake pads, since they are still stock. I have discovered that the key to getting around a corner quick is all about your apex, not torque or brakes.

That seems to be a contradiction.

Upgrade your pads after you wear them out. Even if your times suffer a tenth of a second, who cares? Unless the prize will pay for your pads, what are you gaining?

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