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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Hollywood_North GT
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I get it!

The bigger question is, will the wine festival still be on over at IMBOC, George?

You're keeping the 'wine' festival going so strong right here why would you care about it there?
Old Nov 18, 2007 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by TXBLUOVAL
Sorry I really don't see your point(s) ... ??? Could you please explain a little more in depth?

I did watch both videos ... (THANKS ~ !!!)

I did see that in one of them they said Shelby was an "engineer"; yet in the other video Shelby himself said he wasn't an engineer as that would be "limiting" or something along those lines ...

In addressing why/how the Mustang was picked ... GOOD POINT THAT STILL STICKS ... It seems to me like they can still take the current (and most recently enhanced) platform and offer a 5.4 engine, T56, and auto trans as pencil-in options ... AND DON'T TELL ME THAT CANT DO THAT ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY MOST DEFINITELY CAN ... (LOL)

It's called the GT500, who would want an auto?
Old Nov 18, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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I'm not sure if the folks at Autoblog 'get' the Bullitt, but the car is right up my alley and I'm seriously considering one. I love that the car focuses on improving the items you will actually notice when driving it daily. For less than 3k more than a comparable Permium trim GT I can get the superb seats previously only found in the GT500 and the MS6, the GT500's superior steering wheel, a deeper set of gears, a sweet sounding exhaust, a few more ponies under the hood, a slightly lower and sportier suspension setup including a strut toqer brace(that last item is a rather big one for me since I would prefer something sportier than standard GT fare but the FRPP suspension appears to be a bit too extreme) and best of all...I can get it in dark green.

I personally think it'd be nice if the Bullitt's improvements became standard on all GTs. It seems to be more in the spirit of the GTs of the '60s.
Old Nov 18, 2007 | 09:06 PM
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You're keeping the 'wine' festival going so strong right here why would you care about it there?
Oh, I think my remarks here pale in comparison to the sorority bashfest some of the girls over there are engaging in these days.
Old Nov 18, 2007 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfsburg
I personally think it'd be nice if the Bullitt's improvements became standard on all GTs. It seems to be more in the spirit of the GTs of the '60s.
I suppose it could happen, but will most people be willing to pay the additional cost?
Old Nov 18, 2007 | 09:22 PM
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Oh, I think my remarks here pale in comparison to the sorority bashfest some of the girls over there are engaging in these days.
Hardly, it feeds your soul
Old Nov 18, 2007 | 09:26 PM
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I suppose it could happen, but will most people be willing to pay the additional cost?
Good question.
Old Nov 18, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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Hardly, it feeds your soul
And apparently a few others. Lists, quotes, and links are available.


Old Nov 18, 2007 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfsburg
Good question.
People seem to compain enough whenever a Ford product goes over 30K, no mater how well it's equipped.
Old Nov 18, 2007 | 09:49 PM
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Hardly, it feeds your soul
Nah, those minute steaks I dined on previously filled me up pretty good.

On the other hand, I couldn't even begin to compete with the cherry eating contest going on over at IMBOC.

Old Nov 18, 2007 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfsburg
I personally think it'd be nice if the Bullitt's improvements became standard on all GTs. It seems to be more in the spirit of the GTs of the '60s.
This would make the GT a more compeilling piece. The only parts which I couldn't see realistically making the transition as base GT items are the CAI, gears, and GT500 steering wheel. As for cost, I doubt the GT500's seats, the Bullitt's more aggresive tune, or the suspension mods would add much if any cost to the basic price of the car in a mass production situation.

On the flip side I could also see the suspension setup, strut tower brace, and minor brakes improvements constituting a 'Sport' package of sorts. And it would be nice if the seats made it into such a deal as well. But I'd be willing to bet the price of these as an option would be so close to Bullitt money the only real advantage would be a larger color palette for those who don't like green and/or black.
Old Nov 18, 2007 | 10:21 PM
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But I'd be willing to bet the price of these as an option would be so close to Bullitt money the only real advantage would be a larger color palette for those who don't like green and/or black.
that is a very interesting comment, I could easily see Ford offering that as a "sport" option in the future.
Old Nov 18, 2007 | 10:43 PM
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It would be best packaged as an option rather than standard fair
Old Nov 18, 2007 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RCSignals
I suppose it could happen, but will most people be willing to pay the additional cost?
I think Wolfsburg is absolutely right (good point indeed) on the "sport" package.

Yes, I would pay the extra money.

Why am I not buying a 2008 BULLITT when I can afford one ... ???

Because Ford is not offering it the way I want (it's that simple) and I am the person that will be paying for it.

The original GT500(s) were available with automatics, as were the KR(s). The GT350(s) were available with automatics also.

Why offer this ... TO SELL MORE OF THEM, WHY ELSE ... ???

While I am thinking about it, I just posted to another thread on here and I made a point about SUV(s), trucks, etc. and I think you might like to see that point. I don't remember what specific thread it was in though.
Old Nov 18, 2007 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RCSignals
People seem to compain enough whenever a Ford product goes over 30K, no mater how well it's equipped.
That's because 30K is a lot of money for a lot of people (especially for a Mustang) and a lot of folks are wondering if there is really 30K worth of car there ... case in point ... look at the recent overpriced T-bird, for example.
Old Nov 18, 2007 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by TXBLUOVAL
Why am I not buying a 2008 BULLITT when I can afford one ... ???

Because Ford is not offering it the way I want (it's that simple) and I am the person that will be paying for it.


I remember about a year ago, myself, George and several other members here at TMS discussed in painful detail what the Bullitt ought to be, vs what Ford was most likely to do. We saw it as a wonderful opportunity for the company to position a Mustang between the GT500 and the GT, though it was argued that that might not be the most practical use of a cash-strapped Ford's resources at this time...an argument that was perfectly valid. But despite that acknowledgement, we felt that there was no reason why Ford should not at least view the S197 as the ideal platform from which to build a more cosmetically authentic '67 GT390, a la the original movie, such that buyers would not have to mod the car after the fact.

Conceding that there would probably not be much of a power increase, about eight months ago it became clear that that was indeed to be the case - a modest HP boost with more top end latitude and some mostly off-the-shelf performance bits. But as time went on, it became equally clear that there wasn't a lot of effort on Ford's part to even get the core-requisite cosmetics right, either...and that the car would probably look like a V6, albeit perform like a slightly enhanced GT - all with some dark highland green paint and faux Bullitt wheels. A cost effective, but not especially inspiring, effort.

And while the car that Ford has wrought is certainly nice enough taken strictly on its own merits, it is not what many of us had long hoped for, though definitely what we had anticipated given Ford's financial situation and typical modus operandi.

The '08 Bullitt is therefore a nice car when viewed apart from the Bullitt film, with an intriguing set of modest performance enhancements, but nothing particularly "special," IMHO. By the time I finish my mods next Spring, I anticipate no problem spanking stock Bullitts...and therein lies part of the problem: the stock Bullitt ought to have been built to easily outrun a modestly modded Mustang GT.

So while it's a decent package in several respects, it's neither a cosmetic OR performance home run from the Blue Oval, particularly for those of us who wanted one, and waited a long time to learn what Ford was going to deliver, only to be gravely disappointed.
Old Nov 19, 2007 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by TXBLUOVAL
That's because 30K is a lot of money for a lot of people (especially for a Mustang) and a lot of folks are wondering if there is really 30K worth of car there ... case in point ... look at the recent overpriced T-bird, for example.
Sure, but I am always amused how the same people often don't bat an eye at paying 36K for Huyundai

The T-bird was for the most part only overpriced with ADMs, which many dealers held out for while still having a car in inventory for over a year!
Old Nov 19, 2007 | 12:40 AM
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I remember about a year ago, myself, George and several other members here at TMS discussed in painful detail what the Bullitt ought to be, vs what Ford was most likely to do. We saw it as a wonderful opportunity for the company to position a Mustang between the GT500 and the GT, though it was argued that that might not be the most practical use of a cash-strapped Ford's resources at this time...an argument that was perfectly valid. But despite that acknowledgement, we felt that there was no reason why Ford should not at least view the S197 as the ideal platform from which to build a more cosmetically authentic '67 GT390, a la the original movie, such that buyers would not have to mod the car after the fact.

Conceding that there would probably not be much of a power increase, about eight months ago it became clear that that was indeed to be the case - a modest HP boost with more top end latitude and some mostly off-the-shelf performance bits. But as time went on, it became equally clear that there wasn't a lot of effort on Ford's part to even get the core-requisite cosmetics right, either...and that the car would probably look like a V6, albeit perform like a slightly enhanced GT - all with some dark highland green paint and faux Bullitt wheels. A cost effective, but not especially inspiring, effort.

And while the car that Ford has wrought is certainly nice enough taken strictly on its own merits, it is not what many of us had long hoped for, though definitely what we had anticipated given Ford's financial situation and typical modus operandi.

The '08 Bullitt is therefore a nice car when viewed apart from the Bullitt film, with an intriguing set of modest performance enhancements, but nothing particularly "special," IMHO. By the time I finish my mods next Spring, I anticipate no problem spanking stock Bullitts...and therein lies part of the problem: the stock Bullitt ought to have been built to easily outrun a modestly modded Mustang GT.

So while it's a decent package in several respects, it's neither a cosmetic OR performance home run from the Blue Oval, particularly for those of us who wanted one, and waited a long time to learn what Ford was going to deliver, only to be gravely disappointed.
Some of those old posts make for very interesting reading, especially the current position of some posters as opposed to their position then. Some of course were just as curmudgeonly as they are now.

As long ago as almost one year people posted information about a car that is substantially what has been presented. It wasn't rejected then with such vigour by a few of the ones who vehemently reject it now.

Memory is a wonderful thing but the written word trumps it every time.
Old Nov 19, 2007 | 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by TXBLUOVAL

Because Ford is not offering it the way I want (it's that simple) and I am the person that will be paying for it.
Why should anyone buy a car that does not appeal to them?

Originally Posted by TXBLUOVAL
The original GT500(s) were available with automatics, as were the KR(s). The GT350(s) were available with automatics also.

Why offer this ... TO SELL MORE OF THEM, WHY ELSE ... ???
I understand what you are saying. The automotive industry hasn't been that way for many years though.
Although with TRUCKS Ford has gone the other way and has too many options and variations IMHO

Originally Posted by TXBLUOVAL
While I am thinking about it, I just posted to another thread on here and I made a point about SUV(s), trucks, etc. and I think you might like to see that point. I don't remember what specific thread it was in though.
I'll see if I can find it. edit: found it and replied.
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...the current position of some posters as opposed to their position today.


Sense. Try making some.



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