2007-2008 Shelby GT The Third S197 Shelby Mustang

Hard to get this one too?

Old Aug 12, 2006 | 08:15 PM
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Hard to get this one too?

Was wondering if the Shelby GT will be over priced and very hard to get just like the GT500? I guess we will find out on Sunday when we get some details....
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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TikiStang311
Was wondering if the Shelby GT will be over priced and very hard to get just like the GT500? I guess we will find out on Sunday when we get some details....

I'd expect some ADM's on this car too just because it is a Shelby. Hopefully they won't be as insane as on the GT500 and it will be easier to find a dealer who will sell at MSRP.
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by TikiStang311
Was wondering if the Shelby GT will be over priced and very hard to get just like the GT500? I guess we will find out on Sunday when we get some details....
The are many more differences between the GT500 and the GT than the Shelby GT and the GT. Without a doubt, dealers will try to do what they always do with a new model. Their success will be more difficult since the GTs are being discounted therefore creating a larger gap in the price for a car with a few mods.

The prospective Shelby GT customer is essensially the Mustang GT buyer who likes the differences in the Shelby GT. $4K - $5K difference for $1.5K and the Shelby badging is a hard sell as it is. Any higher, and they will be in the same predicament as the Mustang GT Roush Stage 2 finds itself in.
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 11:12 AM
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The prospective Shelby GT customer is essensially the Mustang GT buyer who likes the differences in the Shelby GT. $4K - $5K difference for $1.5K and the Shelby badging is a hard sell as it is. Any higher, and they will be in the same predicament as the Mustang GT Roush Stage 2 finds itself in.
I think the Shelby GT has more than 1.5K in parts...
Looks like it has:
FRPP Drag Pack - $1479.00
FRPP Handling Pack - $1149.00
FRPP Muffler Kit - $325.00 (not sure about this one)
Shelby Badges
Shelby Stripes
Shelby Floor Mats
Shelby Door Sill Plate

The FRPP stuff is $2600 MSRP on it's own not including labor.

If you assume a $29,000.00 Premium GT w/18" wheels + $3000.00 for parts you're at $32K not incl. labor. If this car sells for $33K-34K I think that's reasonable. Of course the question is can the car really be purchased for that number as I know others have stated...there may be ADM's and that's the real problem.

I wish we could buy the car direct form Shelby for MSRP.
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Fords4Ever
I think the Shelby GT has more than 1.5K in parts...
Looks like it has:
FRPP Drag Pack - $1479.00 ...
...The FRPP stuff is $2600 MSRP on it's own not including labor...
Yes, it does look like it is more than $1,500 in parts but I can't find that the FRPP Drag Pack is included, unless it is available as an option.
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 03:40 PM
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Figures may also need to include at least part of the GT/CS upgrade package cost too.

My hunch is Shelby will be ordering these cars as GT/CS configured vehicles and working from there.
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 04:34 PM
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Press release says it has the FR power pack, not the drag pack.
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showpo...68&postcount=1

Under hood, the Ford Racing Power Pack increases the output of the naturally aspirated, three-valve, 4.6-liter V-8 to 325-horsepower, and 330 pound-feet of torque. The Power Pack includes a 90 millimeter cold-air intake and a new performance engine calibration for improved response. The high-flow exhaust system with X-pipe crossover offers better power delivery and a throaty V-8 exhaust note. A shorter rear-axle ratio is installed to capitalize on the Shelby GT coupe’s extra power, especially accelerating off the line. For Shelby GT models equipped with a manual transmission, a Hurst short-throw shifter is installed for more precise shift action.
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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Yes, it does look like it is more than $1,500 in parts but I can't find that the FRPP Drag Pack is included, unless it is available as an option.
You're correct...I made an assumption on the Drag Pack but then I re-read the announcement and it specifically says "Power Pack" but it also mentions the following which are all in the "Drag Pack" except for the X-pipe:

"The high-flow exhaust system with X-pipe crossover offers better power delivery and a throaty V-8 exhaust note. A shorter rear-axle ratio is installed to capitalize on the Shelby GT coupe’s extra power, especially accelerating off the line. For Shelby GT models equipped with a manual transmission, a Hurst short-throw shifter is installed for more precise shift action."

I guess we need to know if the high-flow exhaust includes the shorty headers and it would be nice to know if the shorter rear-axle ratio is 3:55, 3:73 or 4:10.

On the FRPP website you can see what parts are included on the GT-H:
http://www.fordracingparts.com/mustang/buildyourown.asp

Power Pack: $889.00
FRPP X-Pipe: $139.00
FRPP Handling Pack: $1149.00
FRPP /Hurst shifter: $269.00
FRPP 3:73/4:10: $225.00

Total (parts only) = $2671.00

Maybe the FRPP link will update with the same info for the Shelby GT that thye have on the GT-H.
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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+ another ~$1600 for the cost of shipping cars to Las Vegas and the labor cost, cost of scoops (including painting). Someone said earlier that I had way underestimated labor at $20 per hour x 2 people for 15 hours ($600 per car), so an extra $1600 may be low. Doesn't include overhead (gotta pay for the building and utilities, other salaries-admin etc) and profit.

So maybe $2-$3K extra would be a better estimate.
So $29K for car, $2,671 in parts, + another $2500 in labor, shipping, overhead and profit = $34-35K
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by AFBLUE
Press release says it has the FR power pack, not the drag pack.
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showpo...68&postcount=1
If I remember correctly, I think the auto's come with the power pack and the 5spd cars will have the drag pack less the 4.10 rear gear.
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 10:29 PM
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i liked it better when the cars were built in the 60's true sleepers sold for sticker then all of a sudden they were collectible, not collectible off the bat, let the good times roll away
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 10:40 PM
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Of course, Shelby will get these cars and packs in bulk and at deep discounts, and their assembly lines will get these parts installed in a quarter the time it would take a shop. Shelby will spend far less converting these cars than a private owner would, so they would make a handsome profit even if they sold the cars exactly at the cost of what parts/install would be for Joe Bob.
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Old Aug 14, 2006 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by AnotherMustangMan
Of course, Shelby will get these cars and packs in bulk and at deep discounts, and their assembly lines will get these parts installed in a quarter the time it would take a shop. Shelby will spend far less converting these cars than a private owner would, so they would make a handsome profit even if they sold the cars exactly at the cost of what parts/install would be for Joe Bob.
There is nothing wrong with Shelby makng a profit on the cars, is thee?
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 12:25 AM
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If the price is jacked too high then I will just build one myself and be very satisfied with a car that looks like one but costs a whole lot less. Like many of you have been saying.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 11:09 AM
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I read on Stangs Unleashed that it will be limited to under 10k made. Which will make it a hard to get car and the price will be jacked up.


"Now another Shelby pony car joins the herd. The all-new Shelby GT will feature a 4.6-liter V-8 producing 325 horsepower and will be limited to fewer than 10,000 models, assuring its exclusivity like all Shelby Mustangs. . ."
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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This car is more Shelby and the GT500 is more SVT. This will be the car of value.....not the GT500.......best not get excited (if your not wealthy) you won't get one. This car will be twice as hard to get as the GT500.........anyone disagree????......the good thing is that this car might make the gt500 more attainable at MSRP.......so that's a little good news
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by black sunshine
This car is more Shelby and the GT500 is more SVT. This will be the car of value.....not the GT500.......best not get excited (if your not wealthy) you won't get one. This car will be twice as hard to get as the GT500.........anyone disagree????......the good thing is that this car might make the gt500 more attainable at MSRP.......so that's a little good news
Good points.

The GT500 is a corporate commodity product that can be belched out of the factory in whatever #s fill the dealers orders. The Shelby GT version has a maze to navigate with some inevitable limits and is closer to the original 60s scheme.

Gotta agree, The GT is likely to be the more desireable. There will unfortunately be those who buy the name and not the car. This will be their obvious choice.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 04:18 PM
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Good points.

The GT500 is a corporate commodity product that can be belched out of the factory in whatever #s fill the dealers orders. The Shelby GT version has a maze to navigate with some inevitable limits and is closer to the original 60s scheme.

Gotta agree, The GT is likely to be the more desireable. There will unfortunately be those who buy the name and not the car. This will be their obvious choice.

All the more reasons to stick to a stock GT for now and mod it yourself.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TikiStang311
All the more reasons to stick to a stock GT for now and mod it yourself.
Right! A premium GT can be had for around 25K. Spend another 3-4 grand and build it the way you want and still be many thousands ahead. The current Shelby offerings may have some future value above a standard GT but you will need to store, insure, and maintain the car for the next 30 or 40 years and hope for the best. This is not a logical approach.
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 01:05 PM
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And take that Mustang Premium GT with the added on Ford Racing Performance parts back to the very dealer you got them from and see if they will honor your warranty. Could be a problem.
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