car doesn't come from factory lower than standard GT. front fascia is only lower.

 

Wes, you sound just like my uncle did in 1965 when he went to buy the white 1965 fastback that I now own. He went to the dealer to buy a new 65' Shelby, but was told it would be an extra $1,500.00 and all you got was a cam ,a high rise. a holley four, and front sway bar. What a joke! He did all that himself for $500.00. The rest is history. I now have that San Jose built, white, almost a 65" Shelby that my uncle built. I call it SZ001 Special after my uncle's name . Oh buy the way it is only worth what any standard 1965 fastback is worth. Did I change your way of thinking?

 

Collectability! BAAAAAAAAAAAAAH HUMBUG! Just drive the thing and enjoy it! Better yet...
DRIVE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT!

You'll enjoy it more!

 

You forgot a bunch of items that were part of the 1965 GT-350.
Besides the aluminum high rise intake, center float Holly & larger front sway bar, 1965 GT-350s had the following extras:
Tube Headers
glass pack mufflers
side exit exhaust pipes
valve covers
shocks
metallic brake shoes / pads
larger cast & finned oil pan
Different idler & pitman arms
relocated front upper control arms
rear over axle traction bars
drive shaft loop
real axle travel limiters
fiberglass hood with functional hood scoop
shock tower brace
trunk mounted battery (first 300 production GT-350s)
Side stripes
Hood pins (standard latch deleted)
rear seat deleted, replaced with lightweight fiberglass cover
3 spoke wood & aluminum steering wheel
Tach & oil pressure gages in special dash bezel
3" wide quick release competition style seat belts
rear end grears

 

If you're comparing to what the SGT offers now . . .

under the hood mods (CAI, tune, etc.) = 19 more hp
exhaust / mufflers
FRPP suspension
shock tower brace
different rear axle / gear ratio
fiberglass hood with NON-functioning scoop
side stripes
hood pins
added gauges (at least in NorCal SGTs)

I probably missed something, but I think my list covers a lot of what your list covers. How many 1965 mods could be purchased and added to your regular Mustang (I don't know, but I bet many of what you described)? And for all the gearheads who saved a few bucks, spent the weekend installing and tuning . . . how do their cars match up value-wise with a legit, original 1965 Shelby? I think the same argument can be (and has been) made for the modern cars.

I'm not old enough, but were people having the same arguments forty years ago, but talking about "modded Model Ts" versus "factory Model T-350s?"

 

Yes we all know the shelby gt lays golden eggs of money 50 years from now... Doesn't change the fact that I'd rather have the GT/CS and spend the money on the mods I want. Oh and daily drive the **** out of it.

 

Here is a list of add- ons that my uncle put on my 65' fastback wanna be Shelby(SZ 001)that I have now and it still has them in place since the late 1965 installation.

Shelby R cam
Weiand Colt High Rise
Holley 3310
Solid lifters
Dual point Hi-Po distributor
Four speed
3:55 posi
CalCustom finned polished valve covers
Export brace and monte carlo bar
Sword shapped CalCustom dip stick(one up on Shelby)
Crome regulator cover
Walker continental mark 3 mufflers -scavenger pipes
Keystone Mags (look just like torque d)
Wide ovals
CalCustom non -functional hood scoop
Hood Pins
Flat Black Hood stirpe (Mach 1 sytle way before Mach 1)
Flat black rear panel
And more

All for $500.00 What a savings!


Does that bring back memories or what?

 

You missed one... The car had working scoops to bring in air to cool the rear disk brakes as well.

 

What is different about the rear axle? Isn't it just a standard 3.55 rear?

 

I think the automatics have a different rear axle from the regular GTs.

Cam, it isn't about laying golden eggs - I am on board with you that a car is meant to be driven, no matter how much it costs (the more it costs, the more it SHOULD be driven!).

 

3.31 standard on GTs, with 3.55 available (as an option) on manual GT only.

 

There are many better investment options, ones that are less dependant upon trends, fashion.

If my CS is still around many years from now in my possession, and its worth something, great. For me, if not, so what? I bought the car for me, because I wanted, I love it, its a kick to drive. Cars were built to be driven, some were built to ignite passion. I believe this is one of them.

There are people who bought and restored to concours condition all kinds of cars. Even at inflated (to some) prices, most times there is little profit to be had. If you really want to purchase a car as a long term investment, look at something out of the mainstream. Certain Porsches, Ferraris, Bugs, Astons, etc., are by their nature objects of limited supply. Their history lends a certain aura that even non-enthusiasts can relate to, helping the perceived value.

...dag, I talk too much...bottom line, drive the car and get the thrill out of it and be thankful for any monetary return you may get on it one day....

 

prior to buying my gt, I only test drove gt/cs's. I lost all value for it haha. I thought it was more rare.

 

that is not what I wanted to hear but thank you for clearing that up so I will stop saying that.

 

That was only on the competition models, which also had air ducts on the front brakes.

 

they made what like 2 million in the 60's and they have pretty good prices if they're in decent shape. and the fastbacks really do. and you know the fastbacks have been driven like the general lee but no one cares

 

special additions may be worth a little more money in the far future if you keep them in stock form but who wants to do that.

 

With the exception of the new hood, all my mods are bolt on's and have the take-off's in the basement. everything can be changed back to stock with about a day or two worth of work. With the hood, how hard is it to find a GT hood to replace it with, even in the future.