Road and TRACK REVIEWW!!!
#1
Road and TRACK REVIEWW!!!
#4
Totally unacceptable! I'm even pissed off about that time.. We can view it, that the car has traction problems with street tires.. We must give it credit for the iron block and all forged internals.. More credit that you should be able to up the boost on it, without fear of hurting the motor.. The weight is a consequence of the motor itself..
However, who would have ever thought that the mighty GT500 we have all been waiting for is running toe-to-toe with a 2005 V6 Mustang with a $500 nitrous kit, using a 125 shot, which also is runing a 13.1ET.. LOL!! If I know one thing about the crowd around here, I know they are very upset about this number..
Most who buy the car will most likley seriously up the RWHP in order to compensate for the added weight..
The 2003 Cobra's came in with a 12.9ET.. So there must be alittle credit given to the car in off the showroom floor trim.. The car is still worth having in my opinion, but you must insist on getting it at $40K..
However, who would have ever thought that the mighty GT500 we have all been waiting for is running toe-to-toe with a 2005 V6 Mustang with a $500 nitrous kit, using a 125 shot, which also is runing a 13.1ET.. LOL!! If I know one thing about the crowd around here, I know they are very upset about this number..
Most who buy the car will most likley seriously up the RWHP in order to compensate for the added weight..
The 2003 Cobra's came in with a 12.9ET.. So there must be alittle credit given to the car in off the showroom floor trim.. The car is still worth having in my opinion, but you must insist on getting it at $40K..
#5
So basically this is a car that weighs 800+ lbs more than a Mustang GT, runs the 1/4 mile in (not even) 1 second faster than a GT and costs more than $15K more than the GT (MSRP, in reality dealers charge up to $ 75K for it!).
I'm sorry to have to say this, but what's the point in bringing on the market a $ 41K, 500 HP showroom queen which only performs as good as a $ 28k GT with less than $ 5k in bolt-on mods on it?
FORD really messed this one up!
I'm sorry to have to say this, but what's the point in bringing on the market a $ 41K, 500 HP showroom queen which only performs as good as a $ 28k GT with less than $ 5k in bolt-on mods on it?
FORD really messed this one up!
#7
Originally Posted by Louie
So basically this is a car that weighs 800+ lbs more than a Mustang GT ...
#8
I think you guys are getting worked up a little too soon. The mainstream mags like C&D and R&T never have very good quarter mile times. If MM&FF ends with a 13.1 time in a stock GT500, I'll agree that it's pathetic. Until then, I withold final judgement.
#9
Originally Posted by TomServo92
I think you guys are getting worked up a little too soon. The mainstream mags like C&D and R&T never have very good quarter mile times. If MM&FF ends with a 13.1 time in a stock GT500, I'll agree that it's pathetic. Until then, I withold final judgement.
Tony: yeah, I meant 400+ lbs.
#10
Originally Posted by TomServo92
I think you guys are getting worked up a little too soon. The mainstream mags like C&D and R&T never have very good quarter mile times. If MM&FF ends with a 13.1 time in a stock GT500, I'll agree that it's pathetic. Until then, I withold final judgement.
#11
Originally Posted by hi5.0
That may be true, but those mags got quicker times with the other cars the GT500 is supposed to keep up with. Still, wait and see.
#12
here are motortend's numbers :
60-0 mph braking in only 110' compared to 138' in the GTO 124' in SRT
9.6 0-100 mph compared to 11.7 / 11.9
4.5 0-60 mph compared to 4.7/5.0
69.7 mph in slalom compared to 62.4/65.2
60-0 mph braking in only 110' compared to 138' in the GTO 124' in SRT
9.6 0-100 mph compared to 11.7 / 11.9
4.5 0-60 mph compared to 4.7/5.0
69.7 mph in slalom compared to 62.4/65.2
#13
Well, it's performance seems to match its underwhelming exterior design and underwhelming suspension.
Good thing it has the Shelby name. Otherwise, we might think it is a seriously overweight, descent (but not stellar) performing $40k car with a crappy interior (for the price range).
Proof there really is more to a car than displacement and hp numbers.
Good thing it has the Shelby name. Otherwise, we might think it is a seriously overweight, descent (but not stellar) performing $40k car with a crappy interior (for the price range).
Proof there really is more to a car than displacement and hp numbers.
#14
Nearly a quarter-ton of deadweight, predominantly perched over the nose, will certainly do much to saddle down even 500 horses, though the times do seem a touch slow given what, say, an AMG E55 (of similar weight and actual power) will dip into the 12s at around 116-118. Traction and technique will impact more the ET while the trap speed is a purer indication of raw power.
Otherwise, a fairly favorable writeup, especially if judged for what it is, that is, more straightline muscle car than more balanced pony car or agile sports car.
Whether its worth the significantly highter price premium (%) over the standard GT than was the Cobra over its GT stable mate is still quite questionable to me -- I think Ford's overreaching a touch price and that markdowns will come follow the initial rush of unquestioning Stang fanatics drain their wallets on silly dealer markups.
Otherwise, a fairly favorable writeup, especially if judged for what it is, that is, more straightline muscle car than more balanced pony car or agile sports car.
Whether its worth the significantly highter price premium (%) over the standard GT than was the Cobra over its GT stable mate is still quite questionable to me -- I think Ford's overreaching a touch price and that markdowns will come follow the initial rush of unquestioning Stang fanatics drain their wallets on silly dealer markups.
#17
Originally Posted by Lokius
I wasn't very impressed with the #'s, however what really upset me was the fact that I wanted this car to beat a stock corvette, I knew it wouldnt touch a z06, but a corvette it should beat
#18
Originally Posted by rhumb
Well, with nearly a half ton of deadweight, set high and forward, and a relatively primative suspension, even a big, honking motor can only make a pig fly so fast. While the GT500 may be a great muscle car, as defined by the narrow range of competency expected of that breed - very fast in a straight line on a smooth road - it's obviously not the great all around performance car the Vette is.
#19
Originally Posted by hi5.0
Hence, the need for a modern GT350, which like the original back in the day, should be developed to spank the Vettes.
A HiPo 4V all aluminum 4.6 making around 375 hp, backed up by a tight 6 speed tranny to make it go. A nice Borla catback would be nice too.
Add lightweight wheels, big sticky tires, and a tightened up and slightly lowered suspension to make it turn and a set of big Brembos to bring it to a halt. A nice IRS would be nice to make it a master of all roads, not just the smooth and flat, but I wouldn't hold my breath on that.
On the inside, some good Recaros or Sparcos to hold you in place and perhaps some fancy pedals.
On the outside, keep it purposeful and clean, the GT500 nose and tail would be fine, but that's about it.
Perhaps now that the straightline bomber, the muscle car GT500 has been done, Ford can do up something for us more interested in an all around road burner for the next Mustang act.