Ya know, that actually makes sense to me. After all, when's the last time you saw an ADM on a little econobox? The ADM are always on powerful, fun-to-drive cars. The kind that just get the whale-huggers in a complete tizzy! I think you might be onto something.....

 

I'll send them $25 and kiss some serious butt.
Maybe one of them whale-huggers will sponsor my AMV.

 

Well, there clearly seems to a significant number of people out there right now willing to bend over. Case in point: I even noted a member over at StangsUnleashed who has bought not one, but TWO, GT500s - both with ADMs.



It won't last forever. But while it does, it's bloody annoying.

 

Yeah, those bloody whale-huggers, I tell ya! We should just exterminate the whales right now and be done with it. And while we're at it, let's defoliate the planet, too. Then those tree-huggers won't have either whales OR trees to hug anymore.

Problem solved.

 

There are more than one on that list who have dropped a dime on 2 or more GT500s. love them bragging about their 6 figure jobs and how the ADMs are no sweat. One was waiting to take delivery on his third.

The whale huggers don't like my daily driver either, the 4 door Bronco in my avatar.

Waiting on my '07 Torch Red GT vert.
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Semper Fi

 

I like SU, but, it is full of knuckleheads that think ADMs are OK. They almost brag about it. I can't wait until the MSRP deals are happening. They will change their tune then.

 

I don't talk about this much, but, I have a 6 figure income. I am also financially stable including a sturdy retirement. The reason I am stable is because I don't make stupid decisions like paying a $15,000 depreciation right off the bat for a depreciating asset like a car.

 

I spend a fair amount of time on SU. I find that the minority of people in any forums will admit, much less brag about the ADM's they paid. I think that 90% of purchasers have paid ADM's whether they want to admit it or not. I saw the guy w/ 2, but failed to see anyone bragging about thier "six figure incomes". What's the BFD if someone really wants something and can afford it. Why the annymosity. Ease up you'll live longer without the bitterness.

 

No Bitterness, if I were still in industry I'd be making well into 6 figures but about thirty years ago I decided that launching Space Shuttles was my calling and I've never regretted it. I'm close to 6 figures but I'm also close to retirement and I knew that I'd never get rich working at the space center. It's been a fun ride.

I just can't stand the ADMs or the gross display of greed by many dealerships. I don't care how other people spend their money as long as it doesn't have a direct impact on me. In this case however their willingness to pour money into dealerships pockets does have a direct impact on me as I would like to purchase a GT500 and at MSRP it's at the upper limit of what I want/can afford to spend. Now if my kid would just graduate from college maybe I could afford a little ADM, NOT.

Peace

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Semper Fi

 

Maybe bragging isn't quite it, but,several post about it like it is cool that they paid it which leads you to believe that they want us to know they have the means to do so.

The BFD isn't a BFD on an individual basis. Your money, spend as you please. On the whole, however, it perpetuates the very problem. Each person that pays it gives life to the ADMs. Each person that reads a post on here or SU and decides not to pay the ADM, shortens the life of ADMs. It may seem like it doesn't help, but, I know of several people that have decided not to pay it after reading the boards. IIRC, you paid one. Did you read about them on the boards first then make a decision?

I am going to keep fighting ADMs until they go away.

 

I'll buy that.

 

Well said,you are much more eloquent than I. My solution for the time being was to order a GT and wait for the craziness to subside with the Shelby. Hopefully sometime in the future I'll be able to trade up but for now I'll enjoy the GT.

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Semper Fi

 

I thought about doing that. By the time I lost the depreciation on the GT, though, I could have paid the ADM (even though I never would). I have also looked at and fallen for the Roush 427R. IT is a really sweet car. IF the GT500 does not come down to normal for some reason, I will likely buy the Roush. The problem with them is they are nearly maxed out for bolt ons and still not quite as powerful as the GT500. They are lighter and (probably) have a better suspension.

 

They are not "maxed out" yet. There is a 80 hp / 65 tq S/C (est)Upgrade in the works and due out in the coming months. Also some development on the engine side of things. Roush is looking to get aggressive with their Performance Products aftermarket division and the Mustang is at the forefront.

The Suspension on the Stage 2 and 3 as well as the 427R is comparible, if not better than, the GT500s. With the mass of a Stage 3 or 427R at about 3520 compared to the 3920 lns of my - heffer - lol - Angel then the power to weight ratio is nearly the same

With regards to the ADMs, i do not condone those ridiculious prices. But free market being what it is here in America, they will subside.

Each person has his/ her own reasons for paying markup for anything. The 7 over i paid was for compromise on the Early production # ( less than 999 ) as i show the car for Shop and Charity mostly. A notable Buyer fell for a red one and the offer came in while she was en route from Flat Rock, MI. She happened to be the color i wanted in the Shelby as well. I was in the order phase for a Stage 3 tricked out 2007 Roush. The pricing of each was not much different on the table as i was having Factory customizations done to the Stage 3.

One thing i learned from the shop is that no two Buyers are the same or have the same needs. To make no assumptions and i am grateful for my opportunities with the cars. Through sponsorship from them as well as other advertisers, allows me to have each car and upgrade them occaisionally.

I make no where near a six figure salary, but have very few other financial obligations. The Sport Roush i drive everyday allows me to keep a car strictly for show as well.

 

Where did you get the info on the build # being under 999? That seems to be a question no one else has the answer to.

 

427 + 80 = 507
390 + 65 = 455

Still no stronger than a stock GT500. Power/weight is better. When you start the upgrades to the GT500, you will far surpass the Roush. Don't get me wrong, I like the Roush. I'm just defending my statement that it is nearly maxed out.

 

From Regional Ford and many Long Term SVTOA Members, look at the last six digits of the VIN and also listed in the Upper Right of the window sheet.

If it starts with a :"19X", then the last three are the build.

There are some speculations that the first three of the last Six are the build number and the remaining three are the Ford Factory 2007 build. It has also been brought to my attention that the first 50 or so had a VIN number unique to them. This is under investigation also.

It is currently being asked to Ford Corporate for verification in writing and i will let you know when i get something back from them in writing.

 

I see your point. Roush 427R @ 3520 lbs / 427 = 8.24.

GT500 @ 3920 lbs / 500 = 7.84.

Upgrade the 427R with the S/C Upgrade @ 3520 / 507 = 6.94.

If Roush were to offer an internal Engine Upgrade to forged components on the AL Modular Block, she could be healthy to 740 hp. Remember, Roush offers Warrenty with their power upgrade as well. An indication of confidance and streetability in their designs.

Modding the GT500, would be at the Owner's Risk and would forefit components of the Ford Warrenty.

For sure, it had been proven that the Reversable Modifications such as Tune and Exhaust are not too risky. And that the GT500 has been responding well to these thus far. To consider also, many GT500 Owners may not want to mod an iconic car.

Just playing Devil's Advocate here to encourage veiws from each side of the issue. Yes, the GT500 can become a beast and it sure will take just a few frame adjustments to make up for the extra mass in the front end. Some of the compensation can also be made up in the Driver's Skill with regards to handling during Road Racing Performance.

 

If cost effective, I would def consider the 427R is the internals could be upgraded. Then the maxed out I spoke of would no longer apply. Part of what I meant by that was safe limit of the 4.6.

I won't be racing the car anyway and will likely rarely use the full power. I will likely do SVTOA track days and the like. I would mod the car just to have the extra power and throttle response.

 

I too have fallen for 427R - there is something about... I love the lines and the stripes everything...