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View Poll Results: What will happen to ratio of V6 to GT sales with 2011 model?
sales of V6s to GTs will rise
59
50.43%
sales ratio will stay about the same
56
47.86%
sales of V6s to GTs will drop
2
1.71%
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Will the New V6 Cannibalize V8 Sales

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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 12:58 PM
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Let's hope Ford hasn't made the mistake of anticipating much higher sales for the more expensive car (GT) while making the less expensive one (V6) more appealing. Obviously overall market share is a major expectation.

That's also quite a jump in trend over the years. Is it a reflection of our consumerism to want more. The anticipated GT Premium to GT is a 6-fold difference for 2011.
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by objoe
Let's hope Ford hasn't made the mistake of anticipating much higher sales for the more expensive car (GT) while making the less expensive one (V6) more appealing. Obviously overall market share is a major expectation.

That's also quite a jump in trend over the years. Is it a reflection of our consumerism to want more. The anticipated GT Premium to GT is a 6-fold difference for 2011.
Worth noting, I bought a brand new 1989 Mustang LX 5.0L Sport 21 years ago. IIRC, V8 sales were 60% of all Mustang sales in 1989. Then, CAFE standards put heat on Ford to push the V6's for quite some time, so it's coming full circle, IMO.
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Five Oh Brian
Worth noting, I bought a brand new 1989 Mustang LX 5.0L Sport 21 years ago. IIRC, V8 sales were 60% of all Mustang sales in 1989. Then, CAFE standards put heat on Ford to push the V6's for quite some time, so it's coming full circle, IMO.
As some people have noted in other threads that perhaps the end of the V8 powerhouses is upon us, IMHO I don't think it's here yet but the government is sure going to try and make it happen. Hurray for the automotive engineers who keep finding ways to satisfy out gluttony while at the same time manage to please the bureaucrats.
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 02:42 PM
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The V6, while a huge upgrade over the previous car, is still a performance compromise when compared to the GT.
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by First Stang
Now that's really interesting seeing that no one in the poll thinks that the ratio of V6s to GTs will drop!
Outing these days to prefer a V8 is not popular, so on surface people pretend to be green, and medias make us believe all are green, so vote is clear. The true is different, fortunately ford knew and brought now the 5 litre.
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 06GT
The V6, while a huge upgrade over the previous car, is still a performance compromise when compared to the GT.
No argument about the obvious differences between the V6 and the GT but, with the new V6, a limited amount of bucks gets an awful lot of bangs.
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 04:54 AM
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GT Gas Mileage

I have had my 06 GT Manual for four years and gas mileage hwy is always 24-28 mpg; I have achieved 31 once. I don't think the new v-6 will be that much better than the 4.6
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 04:01 PM
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I think the V6 will bring in a lot of new buyers that the V8 wouldn't. Therefore, the percentage of V6:V8 would increase. I also think since the V6 is over the 300hp mark, some people won't "extend" themselves as much to buy the V8, where they would have before. Add to that people who look at the 30mpg of the V6 and think they won't be able to afford the gas of a V8, and I definitely think the V6 ratios will get closer to pre-'05 territories.

Now, as long as Ford is making the same profit for each model, I don't think it will matter much at all to the bottom line. In fact, it will be better for CAFE.
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 04:42 PM
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I am very sure that the ratio will skew towards the V6. This new V6 is a real performance car, whereas the current one really isn't, so the V6 will not just capture the first time buyer/female/budget buyer, but some fence sitters who were unsure if they could afford the 5.0. Add to that how much the 5.0 will cost and you will get some guys who can simply no longer afford to spring for the GT, and now there will be a cheaper choice as an alternative to a used V8, and unlike the old 4.0, they won't feel as if they had to compromise too badly.

For me personally, it's V8 or nothing, but the 6 cylinder Mustang is suddenly a serious car.

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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 09:58 PM
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I'm thinking it will be about the same V6/GT ratio of sales. If the V6 can pull more buyers into the Mustang fold, more power to Ford (and its engines)!
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 09:33 AM
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I just hope the GT is as fun to drive as before.
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 02:06 PM
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There is something to be said for parts availability. Remember when the IUP wasn't available, but ICAP was? That's the sort of thing that will likely not affect the ratio... there will be x amount of V6s and y amount of GTs.

The only reason it might, over the entire year, mind, go more towards V6s is that that would help, in a small way, the CAFE mileage. More V6s means a lowering of overall fleet standards. There will be no increase in the ratio for GTs, only a decrease is possible. Formulas dictate that. There can be more of *all* mustangs, that'll be fine. Just you can't go over the ratio for GTs, period.

I think it won't make any difference. I think they're going to make the x/y Mustangs and that's it. Therefore, the sales ratio will be about the same, IMO.

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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by bpmurr
I think the pricing of the cars is going to lead more people to the V6 as the GT has moved out of the range of more buyers. However, the V6 has always been the volume seller.
I agree too.





I'm a little concerned that what used to be a pretty good car for a teenager is now going to have 300hp and be as fast as some older GT's. I think its great, but just something to point out.

I was considering getting my daughter a used V6 in a few years and while a 2011 woudl still be too new and cost too much, I would hesitate to put her in one. I'm hoping to find her a nice 2005-2006 V6 if I can. Lord knows I've got a ton of GT take off parts I could put on that car.
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 01:38 PM
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I've moved my post to it's own thread.

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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 09:22 PM
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I predict sales of all mustangs will rise this year and the percentage of v6 to Gt will increase. Most buyers do not need or necessarily want 400 hp. It's a bunch of wasted go most of the time. 30 mpg from a 300 hp v6 will appeal to lots of people, especially packaged the way it is. The mustang, in my opinion, is one of if not the best value on the market. Go Ford. (should have bought that stock last year )
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