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Old 6/19/14 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by FromZto5
ok, update...

I called 2 places today. VMP and JDM

VMP: Spoke to Steve over there. Nice guy. Sounds like they started picking up some Magnuson work because of some stangs and F150's that have gone to them for tuning. So Justin started working on them. They've done a handful. They don't sell any intakes or pulleys for the Magnuson (they do for the Roush, obviously). So if I decide to go with an intake and pulley upgrade, I'd have to get those elsewhere, then do the datalogging and tweaking at that point.

Overall sounds good... but I get the impression that they're very busy, and I'm "one of their many customers". I'm sure I'd get decent service and quality of product there.

JDM: To be honest, I was shocked with my experience with a simple phonecall there. In a good way. I spoke to Jim Jr. there. What a great guy. Very friendly, very open... in the end, I felt like I (the customer) "mattered" to him. I'm not just one of thousands of customers that they deal with everyday. He was attentive, eager, and happy to answer my questions. So right off the bat, I was pleased.

Technically, I also liked what I heard. They have dealt with only a handful of Magnuson stangs, which is expected. However, they do have a copy of the Magnuson base tune already from previous cars, so I don't have to datalog my current setup. They can either set me up with a JDM tune with the stock kit intake and pulley, or they can wait till I get the intake and pulley, and they can write a new base tune with those 2 added mods. They have written tunes for other stangs like mine with the Maggie plus the intake and pulley, so they have a good reference that will be very close if not spot on. So I was pleased with that.

Best of all, apparently a Roush CAI (box only) will fit with NO mods needed. I will use the elbow I currently have, but the Roush CAI box should drop in the stock spot. So that's good to know. They sell the Roush CAI.

He is also going to look at a smaller pulley for me, and where to get it from.

So if I go with JDM, I have to decide if I go with a tune now, based on the stock Maggie setup for $350, then if I add mods later, it costs $50 to $100 to tweak the tune. Or wait till I add the intake and pulley mods, then tune. Hmmmmmmm.... thoughts?

I still have to contact Lund. I can't believe they have no phone #....

600 whp here I come...
JDM is only 10 Mins away from me. Great Guys over there, Come in once and a while just to chat. I asked them about going for a tune for my car but they said that AED was a better deal and I should look there. They look out for you as a customer. I am going to get Dyno tuned by them once my mods are finished.

I would recommend them entirely and the throttle response on their tunes is 2nd to none.
Old 6/19/14 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by rmurer
Alas this has been a common theme with VMP, i think they are getting to big to quick.

I say that you just wait for the new parts to get a tune, I can't imagine you will see a huge difference between the tune you have now and the JDM one, atleast not 350$ worth of a difference.

What size pulley is on there now?
Yeah, I hear ya. VMP wasn't bad at all... But I have to admit, when I was talking to them, I was thinking about the experiences you had and shared with us. It was on the back of my mind Notwithstanding, like I said, I am sure if I went with them, I'd still get a quality product...

The pulley I have on there now is 3.9, for about 6.5psi.

Originally Posted by the5
JDM is only 10 Mins away from me. Great Guys over there, Come in once and a while just to chat. I asked them about going for a tune for my car but they said that AED was a better deal and I should look there. They look out for you as a customer. I am going to get Dyno tuned by them once my mods are finished.

I would recommend them entirely and the throttle response on their tunes is 2nd to none.
I echo your thoughts exactly. I've spoken to Jim Jr. 3x now in the last few hours. He called me back right away with some parts/updates for me, and so we have a plan of attack for my next upgrade. He needed a belt size/part # from me, so I ran that down for him through Magnuson, and called him back. I'm going with a slightly smaller pulley (3.6) with a shorter Gates belt. I'll also go with a made-for-Roush intake (the NA one, not the one made for a blower) bolted right into the stock CAI box...no mods needed.

I'm really impressed with JDM. Like I said earlier, their customer service is refreshing. Thank you Jim (if you're reading) for getting back to me. I have to convince the wifey now again, to allow me to get that I am running out of Father's Day and birthday excuses to use LOL...

To Gabe and you (the5), thank you for recommending JDM. Sounds like they are a good place. I did research on that too...I like what I hear.

p.s. I am working with Magnuson directly to obtain that smaller pulley. They know me there (heck I'm on their website), so hopefully they can hook me up with a smaller pulley.
Old 6/19/14 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by FromZto5

The pulley I have on there now is 3.9, for about 6.5psi.
Odd how some companies label a pulley like that and others do mm. I have an 82mm which is suppose to be 10psi.
Old 6/19/14 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by rmurer
I say that you just wait for the new parts to get a tune,
Exactly what I say.
Do it once and do it right.
Old 6/19/14 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rmurer
Odd how some companies label a pulley like that and others do mm. I have an 82mm which is suppose to be 10psi.
Originally Posted by Stage_3
Exactly what I say. Do it once and do it right.
Yeah roush goes by mm. And yes I will do it once and get the intake and pulley. I already secured the 3.6 pulley
Old 6/19/14 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by FromZto5
Yeah roush goes by mm.
Yes,...that is funny. People ask about pulley size and I say it millimeters. Roush does millimeters.
I use millimeters at work as well sometimes.
Old 6/19/14 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by FromZto5
Yeah roush goes by mm. And yes I will do it once and get the intake and pulley. I already secured the 3.6 pulley
what kinda boost is 3.6?
Old 6/19/14 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by rmurer
what kinda boost is 3.6?
Should jump up to 9 - 10 psi.
Old 6/20/14 | 03:12 PM
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Update again:

So much for my thread title, lol. I decided to go with JDM.

Sold my oem Brembo wheels/tires, and getting ready to order:

JDM tune
3.6 pulley
shorter SC belt
Roush NA intake

delicious...
Old 6/20/14 | 03:25 PM
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Congrats Burton, on the rims sale, and the new toys coming

She's gonna be a whole different beast!!
Old 6/20/14 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by FromZto5
Update again:

So much for my thread title, lol. I decided to go with JDM.

Sold my oem Brembo wheels/tires, and getting ready to order:

JDM tune
3.6 pulley
shorter SC belt
Roush NA intake

delicious...
Good luck on your choice with JDM. I hear good things about them.

I know Justin and BJ personally and have always used VMP. But they are focused on their own TVS product especially with the launch of the Gen II blower. JDM is a good choice.
Old 6/20/14 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Gabe
Congrats Burton, on the rims sale, and the new toys coming She's gonna be a whole different beast!!
Thanks gabe! I blame you this time, for that power and torque thirst! . I'm guessing I'll be at 575whp. I'm happy with that.

Originally Posted by MJJ
Good luck on your choice with JDM. I hear good things about them. I know Justin and BJ personally and have always used VMP. But they are focused on their own TVS product especially with the launch of the Gen II blower. JDM is a good choice.
Thanks Sean! I was going to go with vmp, but with their unfamiliarity with magnuson, and the customer service I got with the phone, I felt more comfortable with jdm. Aside from gabe, I also read a few more folks have had nothing but great stuff to say about jdm.
Old 6/21/14 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by FromZto5
Thanks gabe! I blame you this time, for that power and torque thirst! . I'm guessing I'll be at 575whp. I'm happy with that.

.
I have NO idea of what you're talking about
Old 6/21/14 | 10:36 AM
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I have NO idea of what you're talking about
He just said it was all *my* fault?...
Old 6/21/14 | 11:26 AM
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does controlling the boost essentially control the power you put to the ground? Can you control the boost somehow for daily driving etc?
Old 6/21/14 | 02:38 PM
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**** dude, your car looks amazing! Love those wheels!
Old 6/21/14 | 03:36 PM
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So will you be doing another dyno once you get the new parts and tune installed? Or will they just be projected(or previously proven on another identical vehicle?)
Old 6/21/14 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DarrenGT
does controlling the boost essentially control the power you put to the ground? Can you control the boost somehow for daily driving etc?
Essentially yes the amount of boost you have determines how much power you put down, the greater the psi the greater the power. Turbo's can be adjusted on the fly where as superchargers can not. Want more boost? You need to get a new smaller pulley. In a way i think you can limit the boost through tunes for a Blower but thats the extent of my knowledge.
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Originally Posted by rmurer
Essentially yes the amount of boost you have determines how much power you put down, the greater the psi the greater the power. Turbo's can be adjusted on the fly where as superchargers can not. Want more boost? You need to get a new smaller pulley. In a way i think you can limit the boost through tunes for a Blower but thats the extent of my knowledge.
hmm, interesting. I suppose you could carry a couple of different pulleys in your garage depending on the purpose. track, vs daily driver, vs autocross or whatever.
Old 6/21/14 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MDkid92
So will you be doing another dyno once you get the new parts and tune installed? Or will they just be projected(or previously proven on another identical vehicle?)
I wish I have a reputable trustworthy dyno close by. . But yes, I plan to datalog myself, then have jdm tweak if necessary, then dyno at some later point.



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