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Old Mar 9, 2013 | 06:54 PM
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Turbo or Supercharger for Daily Driver 5.0

I'm wanting more power, 412hp just isn't cutting it anymore, especially with more and more non-muscle cars coming with 300-350hp. My car is a 2012 5.0 Auto with 25k miles.

Since an 80-mile daily commute is the standing order, I need something reliable that can tolerate the Texas heat, summer mornings start off at 80F and stay around 95-100F for 12-hours before dropping off a measly -20F.

Additionally, I won't the best balance of low-end torque plus top-end power. By that I mean I want good passing power without having to bury the throttle for a few seconds, but I also don't want the power to fall-flat at the top-end at the drag strip.

One last thing, and this is a must, I don't want to hear supercharger whine at all, I want and need this to be a sleeper type of install.

If you make a recommendation, please don't just say supercharger or turbo, list brand and model for a good discussion.
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Old Mar 9, 2013 | 07:12 PM
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May I suggest the Roush supercharger? It is quiet and you can daily drive no problem. PLUS,...you get some great power from it. Do a youtube/google search for Roush chargers. There are other superchargers as well like Whipple and Kenne Bell.
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Old Mar 10, 2013 | 10:01 AM
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Vortech's VQ (very quiet) series is really quiet, except on cold start you can hear it a bit. I ran a Vortech S-trim VQ on my '07 GT Automatic that I built as a sleeper (no spoiler, V6 grille and emblems, no GT emblems, etc.). Great driveability and it was my daily driver year 'round - even in the snow. Dropped my 0-100 mph time by 4 full seconds when coupled with steeper gearing (4.10's). Vortech makes the updated Si-trim for the 5.0L V8's and I highly recommend them. With their super conservative tune (smog legal), it takes you from 412 hp stock to 605 hp with plenty of room to dial it up for way more power.
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Old Mar 10, 2013 | 10:35 AM
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For a daily driver, i say N/A, but it also depends on how many miles you put on per day. If not too many i would possibly consider a SC.
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Old Mar 10, 2013 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by montreal ponies
For a daily driver, i say N/A, but it also depends on how many miles you put on per day. If not too many i would possibly consider a SC.
Question, is your perspective of a daily driver staying N/A for some reason, like weather, climate, or road conditions where you are in Canada, or some other reason?

Here in the Dallas, Texas area, weather is rarely below 50F (10C), with rain less than 10% of the time.

As for miles per day, I average 2000-miles per month.
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Old Mar 10, 2013 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by kn7671
I'm wanting more power, 412hp just isn't cutting it anymore, especially with more and more non-muscle cars coming with 300-350hp. My car is a 2012 5.0 Auto with 25k miles.

Since an 80-mile daily commute is the standing order, I need something reliable that can tolerate the Texas heat, summer mornings start off at 80F and stay around 95-100F for 12-hours before dropping off a measly -20F.

Additionally, I won't the best balance of low-end torque plus top-end power. By that I mean I want good passing power without having to bury the throttle for a few seconds, but I also don't want the power to fall-flat at the top-end at the drag strip.

One last thing, and this is a must, I don't want to hear supercharger whine at all, I want and need this to be a sleeper type of install.

If you make a recommendation, please don't just say supercharger or turbo, list brand and model for a good discussion.
If your 412 HP 5.0 doesn't already have good passing power, you clearly must have a faulty mustang and need to go back to the dealership to have it fixed. Since you don't want to hear a whine in a supercharger and you don't want lag so turbo is out. My recommendation would be NOS.
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Old Mar 10, 2013 | 12:05 PM
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If your 412 HP 5.0 doesn't already have good passing power, you clearly must have a faulty mustang and need to go back to the dealership to have it fixed. Since you don't want to hear a whine in a supercharger and you don't want lag so turbo is out. My recommendation would be NOS.
Its got plenty of passing power, I was just summarizing the goal of what I would want more from in a daily driver that see's only occasional 'official' track time.

It would not make much sense to install a supercharger or turbo that only makes gains above 4000rpm, which is why I say a balanced approach would be preferred.

I don't mind a little turbo lag, it certainly won't be Subaru WRX type turbo lag since the 5.0 already makes good power, heck I wouldn't mind a little whine from the blower, but I don't want something so loud that passengers, or people in cars next to me immediately know they hear a supercharger.
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Old Mar 10, 2013 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by kn7671

Its got plenty of passing power, I was just summarizing the goal of what I would want more from in a daily driver that see's only occasional 'official' track time.

It would not make much sense to install a supercharger or turbo that only makes gains above 4000rpm, which is why I say a balanced approach would be preferred.

I don't mind a little turbo lag, it certainly won't be Subaru WRX type turbo lag since the 5.0 already makes good power, heck I wouldn't mind a little whine from the blower, but I don't want something so loud that passengers, or people in cars next to me immediately know they hear a supercharger.
Sounds like NOS may be a good option for your wants. Instant boost. No lag and no whine when cruising around
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Old Mar 10, 2013 | 12:32 PM
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How damaging is NOS to your engine?
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Old Mar 10, 2013 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by kn7671
Question, is your perspective of a daily driver staying N/A for some reason, like weather, climate, or road conditions where you are in Canada, or some other reason?

Here in the Dallas, Texas area, weather is rarely below 50F (10C), with rain less than 10% of the time.

As for miles per day, I average 2000-miles per month.
Well, my idea of DD is definately N/A unless you don't drive it much, which in your case it is not. You average 500 miles a week, which in my book is a lot. I would stay N/A if i were you. But then again, i'm not you...
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Old Mar 10, 2013 | 01:23 PM
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Old Mar 10, 2013 | 01:29 PM
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Hahahahaha you bastard!!! you made watch that whole clip for that. I'm like, why did he post this? That was genius, sir well done
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Old Mar 10, 2013 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 11SHELBYGT500

Hahahahaha you bastard!!! you made watch that whole clip for that. I'm like, why did he post this? That was genius, sir well done
I could have made it start at the correct spot. But I thought it was more effective if you watch the whole thing.

But that's what NOS does.
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Old Mar 10, 2013 | 02:05 PM
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Have you installed a CAI and had it tuned, either dyno or canned? Either way the process really wakes the car up and could possibly be all you need. Not to mention it would save you a ton of cash.
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Old Mar 10, 2013 | 02:25 PM
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Ditto on the Roush supercharger. They are quiet and produce plenty of power for the money and ease of install.
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Old Mar 10, 2013 | 02:44 PM
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Ditto on the Roush supercharger. They are quiet and produce plenty of power for the money and ease of install.
quiet? roush's whine more then a 7 year old kid ...


one other thing, OP i no you want a "sleeper" but that wine is intoxicating, me i love the whine i think it sounds wicked but to each his own

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Old Mar 10, 2013 | 03:28 PM
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This video may help you:


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Old Mar 10, 2013 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by joey8
quiet? roush's whine more then a 7 year old kid ...

2012 Ford Mustang GT - Roush Supercharger, Tune by Torq - YouTube

one other thing, OP i no you want a "sleeper" but that wine is intoxicating, me i love the whine i think it sounds wicked but to each his own
I don't know. Is that the stock pulley that came with the Roush supercharger or a smaller pulley and then re-tuned by Torq? I don't think the Roushcharger is that loud.
I am with you though,......I do like the whine as well.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 2011 Kona Blue
Sounds like NOS may be a good option for your wants. Instant boost. No lag and no whine when cruising around
If the turbo system is built correctly with the right size piping and turbo - lag wont be an issue.

I have a 2003 4.2l v6 f150 that i turbocharged and lag is definitely not an issue.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 08:02 PM
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It's nitrous unless you buy Holley's Nitrous Oxide System. NOS is not a generic term for nitrous unless you're a ricer. Anyway, nitrous isn't really practical for the street or for what the OP wants. The nitrous bottle has to be open and the bottle has to be at the correct temperature, not to mention the need for a nitrous specific tune which retards the timing which will hurt your performance when the nitrous isn't being used. You could add switches for the bottle heater and even a bottle opener but it won't be an instant, on demand solution.
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