Time to go vote fellas.
Time to go vote fellas.
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/16/2...w-m3-tie-game/
Now please, check the right box. Of course you gotta be over 18 years of age to vote.
Now please, check the right box. Of course you gotta be over 18 years of age to vote.
Last edited by montreal ponies; Apr 16, 2010 at 09:48 PM.
BMW is winning! 

http://www.autoblog.com/
Now please, check the right box. Of course you gotta be over 18 years of age to vote.
Now please, check the right box. Of course you gotta be over 18 years of age to vote.

OK, I voted for the 'stang and if it was my money that's where I'd spend it, and keep the other $30K . . . but honestly if somebody was going to hand me the keys free of charge I'd take the beamer
But i don't see the point of comparing the two cars. Ok the numbers are about the same, but these are two totally different cars with different backgrounds and on different missions. But it's cool to see the 'Stang being compared to a M3 Bimmer and achieving the same numbers. Kind of flattering if you ask me.
Voted.
Mustang for sure. The BMW M3 may be more refined concerning the interior and probably a few electronics, but the performance numbers do not surpass the Mustang, so I would not at any point feel inclined to spend the extra 28,000.
IMO people don't seem to perceive the Mustang as a class leading sports car. They look at a BMW M3 and see a car with the utmost quality and best of everything, which is why they spend the extra 28-30k. I think it will take awhile before these types of people consider the Mustang on their sports car shopping list.
IMO people don't seem to perceive the Mustang as a class leading sports car. They look at a BMW M3 and see a car with the utmost quality and best of everything, which is why they spend the extra 28-30k. I think it will take awhile before these types of people consider the Mustang on their sports car shopping list.
there has been a new post since then and its kind of hard to find it on the page. you should change the link to
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/16/2...w-m3-tie-game/
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/16/2...w-m3-tie-game/
there has been a new post since then and its kind of hard to find it on the page. you should change the link to
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/16/2...w-m3-tie-game/
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/16/2...w-m3-tie-game/
Mustang for sure. The BMW M3 may be more refined concerning the interior and probably a few electronics, but the performance numbers do not surpass the Mustang, so I would not at any point feel inclined to spend the extra 28,000.
IMO people don't seem to perceive the Mustang as a class leading sports car. They look at a BMW M3 and see a car with the utmost quality and best of everything, which is why they spend the extra 28-30k. I think it will take awhile before these types of people consider the Mustang on their sports car shopping list.
IMO people don't seem to perceive the Mustang as a class leading sports car. They look at a BMW M3 and see a car with the utmost quality and best of everything, which is why they spend the extra 28-30k. I think it will take awhile before these types of people consider the Mustang on their sports car shopping list.
That would be me...I've owned 2 E46 M3's and now a 07 Porsche 911S (997), I'm darn near positive that the Mustang is my next car...the other car I'm considering is the E92 M3. I love high revving powerplants and 8400rpm sounds so sweet in these cars.
Dave
Side note, but anyone else tired of seeing skidpad numbers used as a benchmark for handling? Skidpad numbers tell you incredibly little about how a car handles. See the below quote from a test car driver:
"I recall Corvette engineers in the mid-80s bragging how the C4 could pull 1g of lateral acceleration. They were right; it could. But that didn't make the C4 a great handling car. In fact, on anything other than a billiard table-smooth skidpad the C4 was a dog. Run over a matchbox mid-corner and the damned thing would spit sideways because the rock-hard springs and giant rollbars couldn't absorb the impact and keep the tire in contact with the tarmac."
"I recall Corvette engineers in the mid-80s bragging how the C4 could pull 1g of lateral acceleration. They were right; it could. But that didn't make the C4 a great handling car. In fact, on anything other than a billiard table-smooth skidpad the C4 was a dog. Run over a matchbox mid-corner and the damned thing would spit sideways because the rock-hard springs and giant rollbars couldn't absorb the impact and keep the tire in contact with the tarmac."
I think its more about the kind of guy you are at the end of the day. Are you the guy at star bucks in a turtle neck thinking about how lucky the world is to have you in it. I think mustang guys are doing something bad on a empty street or plowing though the switch back roads trying to get to a newly found 6th gear.
Side note, but anyone else tired of seeing skidpad numbers used as a benchmark for handling? Skidpad numbers tell you incredibly little about how a car handles. See the below quote from a test car driver:
"I recall Corvette engineers in the mid-80s bragging how the C4 could pull 1g of lateral acceleration. They were right; it could. But that didn't make the C4 a great handling car. In fact, on anything other than a billiard table-smooth skidpad the C4 was a dog. Run over a matchbox mid-corner and the damned thing would spit sideways because the rock-hard springs and giant rollbars couldn't absorb the impact and keep the tire in contact with the tarmac."
"I recall Corvette engineers in the mid-80s bragging how the C4 could pull 1g of lateral acceleration. They were right; it could. But that didn't make the C4 a great handling car. In fact, on anything other than a billiard table-smooth skidpad the C4 was a dog. Run over a matchbox mid-corner and the damned thing would spit sideways because the rock-hard springs and giant rollbars couldn't absorb the impact and keep the tire in contact with the tarmac."
Has anyone seen a "skid pad" number for a Sprint Cup car or an Indy car? Those would be interesting comparison numbers.



