2010-2014 Mustang Information on The S197 {GenII}

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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 03:24 AM
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I voted Mustang of course, but if I had the extra $28k that the M3 costs over the Mustang GT, I'd buy the '11 Mustang GT and go and buy the nicest E36 M3 sedan I could find, and put the rest of the money aside for modifications.
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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 05:50 AM
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It appears that one could vote repeatedly and still have it count. I so, the whole thing is worthless.
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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 06:19 AM
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Take the GT and buy a nice F-150 FX4 for winter duty.
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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 06:53 AM
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Take the GT and buy another GT
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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave07997S
That would be me...I've owned 2 E46 M3's and now a 07 Porsche 911S (997), I'm darn near positive that the Mustang is my next car...the other car I'm considering is the E92 M3. I love high revving powerplants and 8400rpm sounds so sweet in these cars.

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I see, and I like M3's a lot also(well at least the E92's), the Mustang just seems like a whole lot better deal because it matches the M3 in performance. I'd really like to see a video of that test.
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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 825LTRGT
Interesting and it makes sense.

Has anyone seen a "skid pad" number for a Sprint Cup car or an Indy car? Those would be interesting comparison numbers.
Some race cars and their skidpad numbers...

http://www.modified.com/news/0708_sc...g/skidpad.html
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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 10:04 PM
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2011 Mustang GT with Brembos, 3.73 and a manual transmission vs. a similarly-equipped E92 BMW M3 coupe is THE road test comparison I've been waiting to see ever since the specs on the new 5.0L were first released... We already knew what the car was capable of dynamically from all of the tests last year on the 2010 GTs equipped with the Track Pack. Given that the Camaro SS/Dodge Challenger SRT8 are both hundreds of pounds heavier, I don't think any of us were shocked at the results from a comparison test against the new 5.0L GT.

I've driven just about all variations of the '05+ Mustangs on several of the country's best roads and racetracks over the last few years and until the revisions for the '10 and '11 model years, the car fell short of "world-class." I've also driven the E92 BMW M3 coupe & sedan on the street and at Road America. I am elated that the new Mustang can now be compared to BMW's well-respected M3. The people out there sounding like broken records faulting the car for having an archaic suspension design with a solid rear axle have basically lost that argument as evidenced by the 2010 & 2011 test results (and also in the race records from Grand-Am Continental Tire/KONI Challenge series) - and in many instances, the 2008 BULLITT as well.

The Mustang GT is quickly becoming a legitimate consideration in the "affordable" 2+2 SPORTS CAR ranks now and it's only going to get better as the guys and gals in Dearborn/Flat Rock continue to improve it. Until the Camaro and Challenger lose A LOT of weight or gain A LOT of horsepower and as the Mustang continues to improve, we're going to see more and more comparisons against cars that previously wouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as a Mustang - as evidenced by the recent inclusion of the Genesis Coupe in the V6 comparison (bravo, MOTOR TREND).

So bring on the M3 comparison!!!
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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 09:20 AM
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A picture is worth a thousand words. The silver mustang color is bland and why on earth would you show a car without hid's. Half the people don't know what a mustang offers. If your a hoity toity buyer you want those types of options and could be enough to sway an opinion. No offense to those who chose silver, but if I am trying to entice buyers/voters silver is not the color I choose.

Respectfully,

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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 02:12 PM
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I'd take the Mustang GT. Probably the only rwd (that also has a) "M" that could be considered a "driver's car" other than a MX-5/Miata I would want or could buy.
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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 02:33 PM
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So what's so special about the BMW M3 that makes this comparison come alive? Look at the articles where they drew their numbers from. Obviously the Mustang was compared to the Camaro and Challenger, but the M3 was compared to the Mercedes 63AMG and those numbers are also very close to the Mustang's. I think getting the Mustang to the level of the AMG beats getting it to the M3.
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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 04:40 PM
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I really want to see a road course matchup of these cars to put the questions to rest. I really think that this is THE Mustang to buy, and that the M3 is going to have its work cut out for it.

At one point, I was really thinking that an E92 M3 would be a worthy successor to my Speed6, but I really can't fathom spending almost $60k to get one with the options I want. Even at $40k, the Mustang is on the higher end, but offers a ton of value, better refinements (SYNC > iDrive), and generally a cheaper car to own down the road.

I have no doubt that Ford set off to challenge the M3, and used it as a benchmark for performance. C&D showed spy shots of them testing at Gratton in MI with a few M3s and were noticed to be on par or quicker than them, which tells me a lot. They don't sit back and let someone step over them without taking the fight to them.
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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 08:20 PM
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Wouldn't the 2011 GT500 be a more accurate comparison? They should match up fairly close in price and the GT500 being lighter should now trounce the M3 don't you think?
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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Overboost
I really want to see a road course matchup of these cars to put the questions to rest. I really think that this is THE Mustang to buy, and that the M3 is going to have its work cut out for it.

At one point, I was really thinking that an E92 M3 would be a worthy successor to my Speed6, but I really can't fathom spending almost $60k to get one with the options I want. Even at $40k, the Mustang is on the higher end, but offers a ton of value, better refinements (SYNC > iDrive), and generally a cheaper car to own down the road.

I have no doubt that Ford set off to challenge the M3, and used it as a benchmark for performance. C&D showed spy shots of them testing at Gratton in MI with a few M3s and were noticed to be on par or quicker than them, which tells me a lot. They don't sit back and let someone step over them without taking the fight to them.
Actually I think you got that backwards, the Mustang was somewhat behind the M3 which was on a worn out set of PS2's while the 2011 GT was on Pirelli Corsa tires which are an R compound.

Dave
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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave07997S
Actually I think you got that backwards, the Mustang was somewhat behind the M3 which was on a worn out set of PS2's while the 2011 GT was on Pirelli Corsa tires which are an R compound.

Dave
Something like that.I tried to find the post but didn't come across it. Either way, they used it as a benchmark, which says a lot. Also, like it was mentioned, the Camaro is a close competitor of the Mustang, which should have been considered a year ago.
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