Stock Pirelli P-Zero Nero All-Season Life?
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Stock Pirelli P-Zero Nero All-Season Life?
Hey guys...
I've got 17,000 miles on my stock P-Zero Nero All-Seasons and was told at the dealer that they've got 5,000-10,000 max left on them, which seems about right considering the wear.
I was just looking at tire prices on Discounttiredirect and TireRack.com, and they have the stock Pirellis listed with a 45,000 mile treadlife warranty. So my question is - should I be eligible for any kind of warranty on them since the life I'm going to get is barely 50% of Pirelli's warranty if I buy them as replacements?
I've looked through the Ford Warranty Guide and the Tire Supplement and there is no mileage warranty that I can find, at least for Pirelli. The BF Goodrich section has treadlife mileage warranty coverage.
Seems a little ridiculous that there's no warranty on treadlife for a new car...doesn't it?
I've got 17,000 miles on my stock P-Zero Nero All-Seasons and was told at the dealer that they've got 5,000-10,000 max left on them, which seems about right considering the wear.
I was just looking at tire prices on Discounttiredirect and TireRack.com, and they have the stock Pirellis listed with a 45,000 mile treadlife warranty. So my question is - should I be eligible for any kind of warranty on them since the life I'm going to get is barely 50% of Pirelli's warranty if I buy them as replacements?
I've looked through the Ford Warranty Guide and the Tire Supplement and there is no mileage warranty that I can find, at least for Pirelli. The BF Goodrich section has treadlife mileage warranty coverage.
Seems a little ridiculous that there's no warranty on treadlife for a new car...doesn't it?
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From here:
http://www.pirelli.com/tire/us/en/ca...ll_about_tyres
Under the Tire Warranty tab, Warranty Mileage Claim section:
Basically, they're saying Ford has to deal with it, or you buy new tires. Your choice.
As far as the mileage, they'll easily get 35000 with decent driving, and keeping the pressures up and such. Maybe 40K. 45K? Yeah... about that... That'd be semi-special.
/There's also a voiding for not using air, and ONLY AIR, in these things. I find that humorous given the Nitrogen craze...
http://www.pirelli.com/tire/us/en/ca...ll_about_tyres
Under the Tire Warranty tab, Warranty Mileage Claim section:
Warranty Mileage Claim
Pirelli Tire North America warrants that the tread life of Pirelli manufactured replacement street legal tires, as supplied by Pirelli Tire North America directly or though an authorized dealer, will last for the described vehicle odometer miles from date of original retail purchase. This warranty is only valid to the original consumer purchaser, and do not apply to any tires which are mounted as Original Equipment on a new vehicle. (Italics mine.)
This Treadwear Warranty only applies if:
You are the original purchaser and have a copy of the original receipt or invoice.
You are the owner of the vehicle on which the tires were originally installed.
You have had the tires rotated every 3000 to 4000 miles with documentation.
All tires worn evenly across the tread, down to the treadwear indicators (2/32") at which time the tires are considered to be legally 100% worn out.
Your servicing Pirelli dealer has completed the Tire Rotation Record.
Pirelli Tire North America warrants that the tread life of Pirelli manufactured replacement street legal tires, as supplied by Pirelli Tire North America directly or though an authorized dealer, will last for the described vehicle odometer miles from date of original retail purchase. This warranty is only valid to the original consumer purchaser, and do not apply to any tires which are mounted as Original Equipment on a new vehicle. (Italics mine.)
This Treadwear Warranty only applies if:
You are the original purchaser and have a copy of the original receipt or invoice.
You are the owner of the vehicle on which the tires were originally installed.
You have had the tires rotated every 3000 to 4000 miles with documentation.
All tires worn evenly across the tread, down to the treadwear indicators (2/32") at which time the tires are considered to be legally 100% worn out.
Your servicing Pirelli dealer has completed the Tire Rotation Record.
As far as the mileage, they'll easily get 35000 with decent driving, and keeping the pressures up and such. Maybe 40K. 45K? Yeah... about that... That'd be semi-special.
/There's also a voiding for not using air, and ONLY AIR, in these things. I find that humorous given the Nitrogen craze...
Last edited by houtex; Mar 5, 2012 at 08:30 PM.
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From here:
http://www.pirelli.com/tire/us/en/ca...ll_about_tyres
Under the Tire Warranty tab, Warranty Mileage Claim section:
Basically, they're saying Ford has to deal with it, or you buy new tires. Your choice.
As far as the mileage, they'll easily get 35000 with decent driving, and keeping the pressures up and such. Maybe 40K. 45K? Yeah... about that... That'd be semi-special.
/There's also a voiding for not using air, and ONLY AIR, in these things. I find that humorous given the Nitrogen craze...
http://www.pirelli.com/tire/us/en/ca...ll_about_tyres
Under the Tire Warranty tab, Warranty Mileage Claim section:
Basically, they're saying Ford has to deal with it, or you buy new tires. Your choice.
As far as the mileage, they'll easily get 35000 with decent driving, and keeping the pressures up and such. Maybe 40K. 45K? Yeah... about that... That'd be semi-special.
/There's also a voiding for not using air, and ONLY AIR, in these things. I find that humorous given the Nitrogen craze...
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Wife got 33/4k from hers, always rotated and checked at the dealer during service visits. They were toast by then, can't imagine how this tire can reach 40k, I would think 30k is reasonable. We got about 7-9k more miles on ours after the dealership recommended they get replaced. Sounds similar to your mileage...?
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just passed 40k on my stock all season pirellis and i noticed the very inner treadwear on the fronts is getting really worn. never rotated them so its my fault. im sure if i had, they would have lasted to the warranty. ive driven really conservative with them so no real burnouts and they've gotten me through two michigan winters and countless road trips so i cant complain. really looking forward to running some good summer tires very very soon though.
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If your looking for new tires check out Nitto 555's, bought four a year ago and they still look like they're new, still have the little nubby indicators on all four and I haven't went crazy on them but there have been a couple of real nice burnouts and one or two nice doughnut sessions on them. They grab awesomely and their kinda like a grease pen, they spin but don't leave that much rubber. I used to love Yokohama's but in my opinion they have nothing on my Nitto's. Oh and I got them last year from discounttiredirect.com for $84 apiece
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Who give's a crap, if they are worn out, replace them.
Seriously, think about this objectively, trying to make a mileage claim for tires on a Rear Wheel Drive performance car.
I don't care how gingerly you tell us you drive, or or careful you are to never spin the tires, there shear act of applying 412hp to the ground, even without tire spinning, wears tires down, as well as driving at high speeds.
When I rode sport bikes 10-years ago, the rear tires would only last 2000 miles, and that was w/o any burnouts or tire spinning.
Seriously, think about this objectively, trying to make a mileage claim for tires on a Rear Wheel Drive performance car.
I don't care how gingerly you tell us you drive, or or careful you are to never spin the tires, there shear act of applying 412hp to the ground, even without tire spinning, wears tires down, as well as driving at high speeds.
When I rode sport bikes 10-years ago, the rear tires would only last 2000 miles, and that was w/o any burnouts or tire spinning.
Last edited by kn7671; Mar 6, 2012 at 06:34 AM.
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Who give's a crap, if they are worn out, replace them.
Seriously, think about this objectively, trying to make a mileage claim for tires on a Rear Wheel Drive performance car.
I don't care how gingerly you tell us you drive, or or careful you are to never spin the tires, there shear act of applying 412hp to the ground, even without tire spinning, wears tires down, as well as driving at high speeds.
When I rode sport bikes 10-years ago, the rear tires would only last 2000 miles, and that was w/o any burnouts or tire spinning.
Seriously, think about this objectively, trying to make a mileage claim for tires on a Rear Wheel Drive performance car.
I don't care how gingerly you tell us you drive, or or careful you are to never spin the tires, there shear act of applying 412hp to the ground, even without tire spinning, wears tires down, as well as driving at high speeds.
When I rode sport bikes 10-years ago, the rear tires would only last 2000 miles, and that was w/o any burnouts or tire spinning.
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The dealership will always try to sell you something. Get yourself a tread depth gauge and let us know what kind of thred you have left. Use that gauge to make sure your tires are wearing evenly. Not over or under inflated. I never rotated my tires on these cars because of the way the fronts wear on the insides. Ford will not help you with your tires. they will always claim abuse.
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If you know your dealer/salesman well, you'll be fine. If you don't, take whatever precaution you can. I'd do the same as the guy above me (get my own thread-wear gauge) and use that to help determine the amount of life left in your tires. If nothing else I'd at least get a second opinion.
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The dealership will always try to sell you something. Get yourself a tread depth gauge and let us know what kind of thred you have left. Use that gauge to make sure your tires are wearing evenly. Not over or under inflated. I never rotated my tires on these cars because of the way the fronts wear on the insides. Ford will not help you with your tires. they will always claim abuse.
If you know your dealer/salesman well, you'll be fine. If you don't, take whatever precaution you can. I'd do the same as the guy above me (get my own thread-wear gauge) and use that to help determine the amount of life left in your tires. If nothing else I'd at least get a second opinion.
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So it appears the 05-09 cars had much better life from the stock Pirellis than the 10-12 cars? Were they different tires?
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Originally Posted by kylerohde
So it appears the 05-09 cars had much better life from the stock Pirellis than the 10-12 cars? Were they different tires?
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Replaced my rear original 235 Neros with 275/40-18 P Zero Neros onto an 18x10 American Muscle OE Style rear wheel as soon as I got the car...hit the wear bars on those @ 17K miles...front's still have plenty of tread left.
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On my original Pirellis, I have 34K, and they look like they will give me about 3 to 4 thousand more miles based on the wear indicators. My driving was mostly highway type speeds, no racing. I do rotation, and at every 10 thousand miles. Very even wear. My Mustang is a 2011.