So who's driven the 2011 3.31 V6????
#2
I just drove a 2011 v6 auto. We had about 600 pounds of man weight in the car though (3 of us). Off the line, it felt v6ish, but once the revs started it was pretty quick. 55 - way too fast to post was surprisingly quick. The ride was very smooth and felt refined. The steering felt better than I remembered my 2006 GT being. Without much room, I did a short brake-torque off the line with traction control turned off. The tires squeaked some, and off it went. Honestly, plenty fast enough for what any of us need, but I am sure if I drove the GT I would have forgotten they had v6s on the lot.
The axle code was CC. I haven't had time to check to see what ratio that is.
This thing was a base model with cloth, but felt good. I was really impressed with the drive overall.
The axle code was CC. I haven't had time to check to see what ratio that is.
This thing was a base model with cloth, but felt good. I was really impressed with the drive overall.
#5
I am not sure I would call it slow. It was lacking the torque you get from the current v8s, of course. It didn't try to turn over the tires, and didn't seem like it was close to doing it. It moved on shortly afterward. This would probably not be an issue with a manual. I forgot to add that the transmission shifted very softly. I would be looking at a tune to firm those things up.
From what I remember of the 4.0, there was no upper-end pull like this 3.7. I never owned one in a Mustang (have on laying in my garage from my Sport Trac), but have driven some 4.0s before. They never felt quick to me, at any point. As far as more of a comparison of off the line, it sure would have been nicer to be in the car by myself. Remember, I had 2 other guys in the car with me. It was more like testing the 3.7 out on a Challenger or at least a Camaro.
From what I remember of the 4.0, there was no upper-end pull like this 3.7. I never owned one in a Mustang (have on laying in my garage from my Sport Trac), but have driven some 4.0s before. They never felt quick to me, at any point. As far as more of a comparison of off the line, it sure would have been nicer to be in the car by myself. Remember, I had 2 other guys in the car with me. It was more like testing the 3.7 out on a Challenger or at least a Camaro.
#7
I think this is more of an issue of what you're used to driving. I've never had anything but 4 bangers and a 2008 V6 so this new 2011 with a 3.31 is probably going to feel like a rocket ship to me. On the other hand, anyone that has had a GT or any other powerful V8 will likely think it's a bit under-powered for their liking. Perception will be everything for this car and it will be a blast for me.
#9
This is just my opinion, having owned a 2006 V6 and then going to the GT a year later, but if you're really THAT concerned about power you should consider waiting a little longer and going with the GT if possible. The initial power, the amazing sound and upgrade potential is soooo worth it IMO. Yes the new V6 is quick compared to previous years but its 1/4 mile times so far are only slightly faster than what magazines tested from the 99-04 GT.
If power is what you're after you're going to want more and more! after getting my GT it felt fast for a couple weeks and here a year later with several bolt ons it feels slow to me lol! Next stop whipple!!
If power is what you're after you're going to want more and more! after getting my GT it felt fast for a couple weeks and here a year later with several bolt ons it feels slow to me lol! Next stop whipple!!
#10
BTW, the only thing I've added to it is a K&N cold air kit.
#11
V6ish... lack of torque, down low,but building power thru the RPM range.. Sounds like the old days of the 1969-70 Boss 302!
I would love to see a drag race between a correctly restored,or original Boss 302 and a 2011 V6 Mustang,with 6 spd manual. Would be very interesting....maybe embarassing?
I would love to see a drag race between a correctly restored,or original Boss 302 and a 2011 V6 Mustang,with 6 spd manual. Would be very interesting....maybe embarassing?
#12
I agree that "fast" is going to be relative to what car you're used to driving. I had a '97 Maxima but for the past year I've been driving a '01 Golf TDI. Those cars don't compare to the new Mustang, so this should be alot of fun
#13
Drive a 2005 GT and 2011 V6 back to back.
They may post similar quarter mile times stock, but they will feel very different when you press the 'go' pedal.
I personally didn't have time to drive the v6 at the dealership yet (they had one or 2) and I went straight for the 5L... but from what I've been told it sounded like this:
"It's quick, but its very V6/base car driving"
(In that, its fast, but it drives a lot like other Ford vehicles...it just doesn't have the oomph that the V8 has.) Ask many people and they'd explain that the difference between a V6 and a V8 isn't just how fast it is, but the whole experience.
A TT3.5 may walk around a new GT, and have a fun experience all its own, but the V8 cannot ever be replaced with its sound/feeling you get when you drive it.
They may post similar quarter mile times stock, but they will feel very different when you press the 'go' pedal.
I personally didn't have time to drive the v6 at the dealership yet (they had one or 2) and I went straight for the 5L... but from what I've been told it sounded like this:
"It's quick, but its very V6/base car driving"
(In that, its fast, but it drives a lot like other Ford vehicles...it just doesn't have the oomph that the V8 has.) Ask many people and they'd explain that the difference between a V6 and a V8 isn't just how fast it is, but the whole experience.
A TT3.5 may walk around a new GT, and have a fun experience all its own, but the V8 cannot ever be replaced with its sound/feeling you get when you drive it.
#14
Drive a 2005 GT and 2011 V6 back to back.
They may post similar quarter mile times stock, but they will feel very different when you press the 'go' pedal.
I personally didn't have time to drive the v6 at the dealership yet (they had one or 2) and I went straight for the 5L... but from what I've been told it sounded like this:
"It's quick, but its very V6/base car driving"
(In that, its fast, but it drives a lot like other Ford vehicles...it just doesn't have the oomph that the V8 has.) Ask many people and they'd explain that the difference between a V6 and a V8 isn't just how fast it is, but the whole experience.
A TT3.5 may walk around a new GT, and have a fun experience all its own, but the V8 cannot ever be replaced with its sound/feeling you get when you drive it.
They may post similar quarter mile times stock, but they will feel very different when you press the 'go' pedal.
I personally didn't have time to drive the v6 at the dealership yet (they had one or 2) and I went straight for the 5L... but from what I've been told it sounded like this:
"It's quick, but its very V6/base car driving"
(In that, its fast, but it drives a lot like other Ford vehicles...it just doesn't have the oomph that the V8 has.) Ask many people and they'd explain that the difference between a V6 and a V8 isn't just how fast it is, but the whole experience.
A TT3.5 may walk around a new GT, and have a fun experience all its own, but the V8 cannot ever be replaced with its sound/feeling you get when you drive it.
the V6 is a quick car but it will feel like it's being pistol whipped into doing the dance compared to the V8
as for the ecoboost engine, i would have bought one if that's what Ford had done and i'm sure it would have been fast but I think some of the satisfaction in owning a Mustang only comes with the V8 in it
#15
If you do A LOT of around-town driving, which I think you commented you do, your test drives really need to take that into account.
As an example, I've driven a Nissan 350Z and compared it against my previous 2007 GT. I like the sound of both cars, so I concentrated on the "push-me-back" feel. Despite the z having more power, the GT "felt faster" in around-town driving because of the higher peak torque and where it fell in the RPM range.
I would never presume to characterize one as better than the other definitively, but the "butt-o-meter" will notice a difference. Also, in around-town driving, I held the gear for a little longer before shifting, just to feel the acceleration force on the higher end.
Good luck!
#16
Drive a 2005 GT and 2011 V6 back to back.
They may post similar quarter mile times stock, but they will feel very different when you press the 'go' pedal.
I personally didn't have time to drive the v6 at the dealership yet (they had one or 2) and I went straight for the 5L... but from what I've been told it sounded like this:
"It's quick, but its very V6/base car driving"
(In that, its fast, but it drives a lot like other Ford vehicles...it just doesn't have the oomph that the V8 has.) Ask many people and they'd explain that the difference between a V6 and a V8 isn't just how fast it is, but the whole experience.
A TT3.5 may walk around a new GT, and have a fun experience all its own, but the V8 cannot ever be replaced with its sound/feeling you get when you drive it.
They may post similar quarter mile times stock, but they will feel very different when you press the 'go' pedal.
I personally didn't have time to drive the v6 at the dealership yet (they had one or 2) and I went straight for the 5L... but from what I've been told it sounded like this:
"It's quick, but its very V6/base car driving"
(In that, its fast, but it drives a lot like other Ford vehicles...it just doesn't have the oomph that the V8 has.) Ask many people and they'd explain that the difference between a V6 and a V8 isn't just how fast it is, but the whole experience.
A TT3.5 may walk around a new GT, and have a fun experience all its own, but the V8 cannot ever be replaced with its sound/feeling you get when you drive it.
Have you ever punched the newer C6 vettes with the duel exhaust mode (NPP) option?
If so, does the 2011 GT sound anything like that?
Thanks in advance
#17
Sounds like you have to rev the V6 higher to get in the power band - similar to how you have to wind up a 4V DOHC 4. They get crankin' but not until you wind it up. In dense traffic you won't be able to do that.
And I love winding up the 4's but the V8 simply rocks. Its the whole experience of the torque, butt feel, rumble, exhaust note, etc. like Tony said. Go watch the chase scene in Bullitt again.
And I love winding up the 4's but the V8 simply rocks. Its the whole experience of the torque, butt feel, rumble, exhaust note, etc. like Tony said. Go watch the chase scene in Bullitt again.
Last edited by cdynaco; 5/10/10 at 01:24 PM.
#18
Sounds like you have to rev the V6 higher to get in the power band - similar to how you have to wind up a 4V DOHC 4. They get crankin' but not until you wind it up. In dense traffic you won't be able to do that.
And I love winding up the 4's but the V8 simply rocks. Its the whole experience of the torque, butt feel, rumble, exhaust note, etc. like Tony said.
And I love winding up the 4's but the V8 simply rocks. Its the whole experience of the torque, butt feel, rumble, exhaust note, etc. like Tony said.
#19
Absolutely not...
Now like I said in my write up, it was raining, so I couldn't hear it with the windows down.
But they are the typical stock mufflers (good sound, but not loud)
but quiet in the car.
Great quality, lacking in quantity.... I'd rock an aftermarket exhaust.
#20
Here you go - Ford stats:
And for reference, Ford says my B's 4.6 3V is 315HP @6000, 335#' @4200 (325#' with 87 octane)
Torque =
V8: 412 horsepower at 6500 rpm and 390 pound-feet of torque at 4250 rpm.
V6: 305 horsepower at 6500 rpm and 280 pound-feet of torque at 4250 rpm.
V6: 305 horsepower at 6500 rpm and 280 pound-feet of torque at 4250 rpm.
While Ford says they hit peak at the same rpm levels (so its not about winding the V6 up), the V8 has an extra 110#'! at mid-range. And you can access that with the proper gear in the light to light game. But its hard to hit 6500 for peak HP in the city.
Think of it another way. The '10 Focus has the 2.0 Duratec engine and puts out 136#' @4250.
With the 5.0 @4250, you've got 94% torque of the 3.7 V6 and 2.0 I4 combined!!
With the 5.0 @4250, you've got 94% torque of the 3.7 V6 and 2.0 I4 combined!!
2.0-Liter Duratec, I4, 16-Valve, DOHC, SEFI Engine: 140 @6000HP, and 136#' @4250
And for reference, Ford says my B's 4.6 3V is 315HP @6000, 335#' @4200 (325#' with 87 octane)
Torque =
Last edited by cdynaco; 5/10/10 at 02:01 PM.