Justin@DRI

Hey Guys our buddy's over at Roush sent us a video of the 2010 Roush Stage 3 Mustang Vs. a 2010 GT 500. It shows how aggressive the stage 3 is and how it makes great power. Sounds good too!

I thought it was a pretty cool video and just want to past it along to you guys, it isn't very long but it gets the point across...Enjoy!!!!!
Here is the Link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McJ6L13OveA

PS: If you guy have any questions about the kit let us know, we are also a Roush dealer.



Thank You,
Justin@DRI

1 COBRA

The stage 3 is nice, no doubt. The comparisson is apples and oranges.

While the Roush 3 takes its 4.6 without forged internals and tunes it to the max, the GT500's 5.4 with its forged internals is stock and can be tuned to higher performance at thousands less.

SuperSugeKnight

I thought it was a race. I would like them take down the 1/4 and around a road course.

stangfoeva

Can't wait to watch this when I get home!

EagleStroker

My thoughts exactly. Heavily modified vs bone stock. A "stock" Roush is far from a stock GT.

Nice shifting on the dyno as well.

SteelTownStang

I watched all the videos. There are several... I agree, there should be a disclaimer-bBone stock GT500 vs. modified/tuned Stage 3. Not hate'n, just say'en.

bpmurr

I'll be more then happy to take on a Roush Stage 3.

1 COBRA

The video promotes Roush at the expense of degrading the GT500 which probably out sells the combined Roush products ten to one. If the well informed and educated Mustang enthusiasts would view Roush as the superior car then common sense would point to higher Roush sales.

I find the intent of the video lacking class and doubt Mr. Roush would approve of it. Every video I've seen from Roush Performance had the promotion and its emphasis exclusively on the merits of their products.

ksguy73

While I admire the performance of the stage 3 it shouldn't be compared to a stock GT500. For the extra cash you have to spend for the stage 3 a GT500 would easily out power it and I would think it would be a lot more dependable doing it repeatedly over the long haul with it's forged internals.

06GT

GT500 with a pulley and a tune will blow those numbers away and still cost less and be easier to obtain.

Stage 3 is a great car, though.

Regarding the "non-forged internals" comment about the Stage 3--I believe this year's Stage 3 uses the '09 P51 engine, which is a 4.6L with lower compression and a forged bottom end.

Rampant

That's not what it says on the Roush site:
"ROUSH technicians replace many of the internal components with stronger parts including forged aluminum pistons (with an increased dish to lower the compression ratio from 9.8 to 8.6), forged steel H-Beam connecting rods and a forged steel crankshaft."
http://www.roushperformance.com/perf.../stage_3.shtml

But, still, it is what, $60k?
Even with it being lighter, no way could it keep up with a GT500 + $15k.
And, in my book, you need to consider price when bench racing.

1trickpony

I think the Stage 3 and 460HR are totally forged and should be able to make/take 600+RWHP. You can get the Roush engine in a 460HR which would make a GT500 comparison a little closer. Mod for mod, a 5.4L should make more power than a 4.6L. There was a Terminator versus GT500 build off and the GT500 was up 100 HP if I remember right. I'd interested in seeing some track times comparing a stock Stage 3 and GT500.

1 COBRA

I apologize for the assumption. I had not seen that information otherwise I would not have posted any information to mislead our members.

stangfoeva

It was kind of messed up how they ran the gt500's name through the mud. I mean titling every video "Roush Stage 3 beats Shelby GT500!" is a little much...

06GT

One of my racer friends converted his car to the P51/TVS2300 setup last year after blowing up his stock 4.6L, makes 550hp at the wheels on a "safe" tune.

600whp is probably well within reach if a smaller pulley was used.

Clino

I do agree that it is a bit in bad taste the way they present it, but fair enough, the GT500 is considered the top Mustang and the Stage 3 puts down more power. They have to justify the extra cost somehow.

Personally I would still take the GT500, because I feel it is a more balanced car overall and has more potential, and also looks better. I've also never really been a fan of aftermarket tuner models of any kind.

ZRX4ME

the thing about a roush car is that as soon as you take it off the lot it is not worth anymore than a base mustang GT.Nobody(KBB,NADA,edmunds)considers this as anything more than a GT.If you plan on keeping it forever thats OK,but if ya ever want to trade for anything else your screwed bigtime.Take it from firsthand knowledge,My biggest mistake ever was to not wait for my GT500 and get the roush.

Rampant

What do you mean, "more balanced"? The Stage 3 would be lighter up front, and probably have "better" suspension (make less compromises for comfort). Both have changes to just about all areas.

Rampant

Excellent point that many people forget!.
If I am not mistaken, even banks treat it like a GT, and won't fund more than 110% of the price of the car as well. So, you will have a hefty down payment OTD (though, I could be wrong).

However, if you sell it private party, chances are the buyer would likely understand what you had. It would also be better in the used market than if you made the same modifications yourself. Notice how Saleens keep their value over base GTs fairly well (at least they used to, haven't checked in a while). Just NEVER trade it in.

1 COBRA

Weight or handling has nothing to do with his perception of "more balanced" and neither would mine. I assume Clino means the combination of upgrades on the GT500 vs Stage 3 which its upgrades are geared for track performance as its primary purpose.

If that is the case I second his view.