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6/5/14, 05:50 AM
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Hello Ladies and Gents,
This is going to be the quickest and shortest life a thread has ever seen. I know that this is going to be a "yes" or "No" response. I believe that its a "No" response but, I figured I would still throw this out there and see if anyone with experience knows this!
When you get the performance pack on a V6 or GT, does this extras that your get with it include a factory tune with "performance enhanced tweaks" that is difference from the mustang that were not ordered with the Performance pack?
I'm pretty sure that it isn't, I wasn't able to find any solid proof that it is or isn't which is why I'm bringing this up. I also searched the forum and didn't easily find an answer.
This is going to be the quickest and shortest life a thread has ever seen. I know that this is going to be a "yes" or "No" response. I believe that its a "No" response but, I figured I would still throw this out there and see if anyone with experience knows this!
When you get the performance pack on a V6 or GT, does this extras that your get with it include a factory tune with "performance enhanced tweaks" that is difference from the mustang that were not ordered with the Performance pack?
I'm pretty sure that it isn't, I wasn't able to find any solid proof that it is or isn't which is why I'm bringing this up. I also searched the forum and didn't easily find an answer.
6/5/14, 06:10 AM
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On the GT, the GT Brake Package (55D) gives you the Brembo's, the wheels and the suspension tweaks, and the Track Package (55R) adds the Torsen diff, 3.73's, Boss oil cooler and Boss radiator to the brake pack. No changes to engine or transmission.
Sorry I don't have the specifics on the Performance Package on the V6 but from what I remember reading, it's the same sort of thing. Brake/suspension upgrades, engine/trans remain the same.
55D Specifics: http://brembo50.com/Default.aspx?pageId=1130035
55R Specifics: http://dirtyhipporacing.com/2013/02/...y-part-number/
Sorry I don't have the specifics on the Performance Package on the V6 but from what I remember reading, it's the same sort of thing. Brake/suspension upgrades, engine/trans remain the same.
55D Specifics: http://brembo50.com/Default.aspx?pageId=1130035
55R Specifics: http://dirtyhipporacing.com/2013/02/...y-part-number/
6/5/14, 06:12 AM
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That's too bad and just as I suspected.
considering how much feedback is received by anyone who has gone with an custom tune and how much "alive" the car becomes after that, its too bad that Ford hasn't added something like this to that performance pack.
considering how much feedback is received by anyone who has gone with an custom tune and how much "alive" the car becomes after that, its too bad that Ford hasn't added something like this to that performance pack.
6/5/14, 06:16 AM
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As a 2014 V6 owner I'd consider the performance package in hindsight. The front oversteers a fair bit on the standard model and could do with a firm up. I was put off by the 19" wheels and stiffer ride as my car is a daily driver. However, I doubt it would be much worse.
Just something to consider if looking at the V6.
Just something to consider if looking at the V6.
6/5/14, 06:30 AM
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On the GT, the GT Brake Package (55D) gives you the Brembo's, the wheels and the suspension tweaks, and the Track Package (55R) adds the Torsen diff, 3.73's, Boss oil cooler and Boss radiator to the brake pack. No changes to engine or transmission.
Sorry I don't have the specifics on the Performance Package on the V6 but from what I remember reading, it's the same sort of thing. Brake/suspension upgrades, engine/trans remain the same.
55D Specifics: http://brembo50.com/Default.aspx?pageId=1130035
55R Specifics: http://dirtyhipporacing.com/2013/02/...y-part-number/
Sorry I don't have the specifics on the Performance Package on the V6 but from what I remember reading, it's the same sort of thing. Brake/suspension upgrades, engine/trans remain the same.
55D Specifics: http://brembo50.com/Default.aspx?pageId=1130035
55R Specifics: http://dirtyhipporacing.com/2013/02/...y-part-number/
As a 2014 V6 owner I'd consider the performance package in hindsight. The front oversteers a fair bit on the standard model and could do with a firm up. I was put off by the 19" wheels and stiffer ride as my car is a daily driver. However, I doubt it would be much worse.
Just something to consider if looking at the V6.
Just something to consider if looking at the V6.
6/5/14, 06:34 AM
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Yeah, I got the performance pack and am going to drive it as a daily commuter. I think that the refinement you get from the hardware tweaks in the performance pack, will just make the drive that much better IMO. This is of course subjective to who you ask. In my test drive vehicle, I only drove a V6 Auto (Blah) Premium version and was found the ride very soft and was really smooth. I'm looking for a little bit stiffer I haven't had 19's before, but i have driven on 40 series tires before as a daily commuter and I thought it was great!
. Like I said. If I were ordering again, I'd probably go performance package. Too late now.
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6/5/14, 06:39 AM
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hehehehehehe,I think that, that's why they didn't let me take out their GT models (it was the only manual gearbox's they had). Heck, if they did, I may have been sold on a GT instead!! I REALLY wanted to test drive a manual gearbox but ended up test driving an V6 auto and then placing a build order with manual trans. They likely new that I was going to rip it up and down those back roads
6/5/14, 07:41 AM
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I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned, but the Perf Pack and Brembo/Track Packs do include a unique calibration to the ESC to let you have a little bit more fun before the nannies kick in. It's not anything ECU related, but at least it let's you have a little wheelspin before cutting the power.
6/5/14, 07:55 AM
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I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned, but the Perf Pack and Brembo/Track Packs do include a unique calibration to the ESC to let you have a little bit more fun before the nannies kick in. It's not anything ECU related, but at least it let's you have a little wheelspin before cutting the power.
Oh! I did not know this and thanks for bringing this up. This is the sort of thing that I was also looking for. Its too bad though that they didn't let loose a bit with a "more aggressive" tune on the ECU though. It should be a given that if someone ORDERS the "Performance Package" they want a little give more out of the cars performance and by the sounds of it, aftermarket tunes have a huge impact on the car driveability with very little impact on causing any issues...
6/5/14, 07:58 AM
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Oh! I did not know this and thanks for bringing this up. This is the sort of thing that I was also looking for. Its too bad though that they didn't let loose a bit with a "more aggressive" tune on the ECU though. It should be a given that if someone ORDERS the "Performance Package" they want a little give more out of the cars performance and by the sounds of it, aftermarket tunes have a huge impact on the car driveability with very little impact on causing any issues...
6/5/14, 08:23 AM
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I got a 2014 GT TP and I think it's worth it just for the stiffer springs and brakes. Really changes the handling of the car. All the other Boss goodies are just an added bonus. Then again twice a year I track my car. So I appreciate the Brembos, Torsen, and Boss radiator/oil cooler.
My buddy has a GT premium without the Brembos, and it's like driving a different car. A lot more roll, less acceleration (3.31 vs 3.73) and overall a lot less composed.
My buddy has a GT premium without the Brembos, and it's like driving a different car. A lot more roll, less acceleration (3.31 vs 3.73) and overall a lot less composed.
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6/5/14, 08:45 AM
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As a 2014 V6 owner I'd consider the performance package in hindsight. The front oversteers a fair bit on the standard model and could do with a firm up. I was put off by the 19" wheels and stiffer ride as my car is a daily driver. However, I doubt it would be much worse.
Just something to consider if looking at the V6.
Just something to consider if looking at the V6.
6/6/14, 01:57 PM
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^ I'd say my V6 premium/MCA oversteers too...quite unsettling since I've never had a car that does that before. I'm still not certain it isn't something partly in the traction control etc. nannies, just haven't had the chance to check as it's not something I enjoy intentionally doing. You can feel the back end wobbling around a bit. Easy enough to avoid doing it, but you get on the gas when the stock Zero Neros aren't pointed almost straight ahead and they're useless for grip at the front and rear. IMO/E.
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6/6/14, 02:30 PM
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^ I'd say my V6 premium/MCA oversteers too...quite unsettling since I've never had a car that does that before. I'm still not certain it isn't something partly in the traction control etc. nannies, just haven't had the chance to check as it's not something I enjoy intentionally doing. You can feel the back end wobbling around a bit. Easy enough to avoid doing it, but you get on the gas when the stock Zero Neros aren't pointed almost straight ahead and they're useless for grip at the front and rear. IMO/E.
6/6/14, 02:43 PM
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I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned, but the Perf Pack and Brembo/Track Packs do include a unique calibration to the ESC to let you have a little bit more fun before the nannies kick in. It's not anything ECU related, but at least it let's you have a little wheelspin before cutting the power.
There is a different tune.The suspension is totally different, Look under the car and then look at the Ford Performance book. I was wanting to order the new suspension parts and they are already there. LOl It has the BOSS 302 suspensions arms and goodies. Also the tune is totally different. I am betting there is more that Ford is not telling anyone.
Anyone how knows a tuner and has the equipment to look at the ECM will know.
I love the Track Pack.
6/6/14, 03:19 PM
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Laserred you are spot on..
There is a different tune.The suspension is totally different, Look under the car and then look at the Ford Performance book. I was wanting to order the new suspension parts and they are already there. LOl It has the BOSS 302 suspensions arms and goodies. Also the tune is totally different. I am betting there is more that Ford is not telling anyone.
Anyone how knows a tuner and has the equipment to look at the ECM will know.
I love the Track Pack.
There is a different tune.The suspension is totally different, Look under the car and then look at the Ford Performance book. I was wanting to order the new suspension parts and they are already there. LOl It has the BOSS 302 suspensions arms and goodies. Also the tune is totally different. I am betting there is more that Ford is not telling anyone.
Anyone how knows a tuner and has the equipment to look at the ECM will know.
I love the Track Pack.
you would think though that if there was something enhanced with the ECU with Ford with the performance packs, they would tell us. they would have nothing to lose and everything to gain by doing so!
My understanding is that car manufacturers really make most profits on packages and such on selling cars.
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6/6/14, 03:24 PM
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I got a 2014 GT TP and I think it's worth it just for the stiffer springs and brakes. Really changes the handling of the car. All the other Boss goodies are just an added bonus. Then again twice a year I track my car. So I appreciate the Brembos, Torsen, and Boss radiator/oil cooler.
My buddy has a GT premium without the Brembos, and it's like driving a different car. A lot more roll, less acceleration (3.31 vs 3.73) and overall a lot less composed.
My buddy has a GT premium without the Brembos, and it's like driving a different car. A lot more roll, less acceleration (3.31 vs 3.73) and overall a lot less composed.
6/6/14, 03:29 PM
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that's cool. I'm personally not going to alter any of the already upgraded components of the car that I specifically paid to have upgraded. Not unless there is a legitimate need to.... The ONLY things i'm really interested in at this moment is
1- Tints
2- Different shifter
3- Upgrade the clutch line with a better performance one.
This all depends on how I like/dislike the mustang in its current state.
1- Tints
2- Different shifter
3- Upgrade the clutch line with a better performance one.
This all depends on how I like/dislike the mustang in its current state.
6/6/14, 04:23 PM
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I have loved the Track Pack since I first bought mine but there are some things that I WILL be changing. The stock shocks gotta go. They aren't damped enough, too much pitch, roll, squat, and dive when I'm really getting on it in the twisty parts.